Quote from Quint999 :

A Logitech DFP is not ill suited to LFS. No idea how many people use it, but i'd suspect its not a minority. Some compromise is needed for people with perfectly usable and relevant hardware.

The numerous threads from the usual crew suggesting that anyone having issues with features in the new patch are whiners etc and hence not allowed to express an opinion is actually more frustrating than the new look view.

Am sure the Devs are perfectly capable of receiving feedback.

Thanks for your useless comments. I never mentioned the DFP. I didn't say that all feedback was whining - you seem to think I did. Learn to read. I also didn't say that anyone wasn't allowed to express an opinion, but in your case maybe that wouldn't be a bad suggestion.

Quote from Hyperactive :

That makes most of racing wheels "ill-suited" for LFS. Even the G25 isn't any piece of ergonomic marvel and pressing two buttons to get a glance on your side is more of an annoyance. It is racisms towards the people with short fingers and I will not allow it!!!1111

In real life it is possible to move your head no matter what your feet and hands are doing. In LFS it isn't since everything is controlled by a button or axis, by hand and foot. We look into other directions by pressing a button. Before X30 it was hard to glance at your side while changing gears, now it is impossible. When I see a real life contraption that doesn't allow you to move your eyeballs or turn your head while shifting gears I'll start the praise on the new 45 look as well. HANS isn't a requirement either, just an option.

It is really just a feature that isn't yet properly implemented. But to make a petition of it is stupid, I agree.

Any wheel with two buttons is not ill suited to head turn. Not sure what you are trying to say otherwise.

HANS is a requirement for many race series and the number in which it is mandatory will increase.

Bring search into LFS forum.

In any case, I'm sure Michael could do the trip quicker than the cabbie even without breaking the speed limit.

Cheap and cheesy.

Quote from Roadie :

With the clutch assigned to a button it is basically an on off switch. Makes getting off the line fast nearly impossible. You either get it to hot, or you bog down on the start. Both ways you end up dead last right away. The same goes for down shifting and up shifting. It is pretty much impossible to be smooth with the clutch assigned to a button.

Yes, a button clutch is not the best for getting off the line, but for changing gears it works just fine.

Quote from deggis :

People who seem to think that we had "too good" vision while playing with the 90° view mode when compared to real life, must be sitting in a real car with a paperbag in their heads?

What people have been trying to say is that in a race car (especially these days with the HANS device around your neck and helmet on your head), it is hard to turn your head much at all. The 90 degree view would be difficult if not impossible to achieve. Furthermore, in an open-wheeler car the view can be further restricted by the cockpit. However the current spout of complaints make little sense (in most cases) since 90 degree view is still available.
Pushing the two buttons takes only a fraction of a second. While some people use controllers that makes this more difficult, such controllers are ill-suited to LFS in the first place and require some compromise anyway.

The new system solves a very old and annoying problem of not being able to use the side mirrors properly. The 45 degree view is useful in all cars and the 90 degree view still exists too. The rear view has gone and that's no big deal (though I used to use it regularly for a quick peek behind after looking left or right) and will hardly be missed.

One thing is for sure: bitching and moaning about changes won't get you very far. If you can't make a valid, sensible and polite argument for your case you won't gather much support. A petition is a waste of time, as petitions usually are. Insulting people who don't necessarily promote your view is also a waste of time. Hostility is no way forward, even if has been hatched from genuine frustration.

If you can't make a civilized case you're only harming your cause.

There are no Indy cars in LFS. Even if there were they wouldn't be raced against TBO.

Quote from PLAYLIFE :

When you have LFS game or the CMX Viewer open and you open the other one the program you open says: "Warning: another instance of LFS is already running". Now I would get why this message would come up with opening two game windows, but is this needed if the game window and cmx viewer are used simultaneously?

That message is not new though. It's always occurred if you have the viewer and LFS open. At least for me.