Quote from AlienT. :

No I have not been drinking, but all the drivers in test server are racing whilst standing up??

Attached are screenshots....very strange I have not seen this before and have been on the test server earlier today.

The developers might have told us that they were adding new vehicles to patch X....Pope mobiles

I know why this is. I caused this in W when I messed about with the files for the race suit. I had corrupted or changed the file that contains the images of the drivers sitting down so it showed the driver stabding up instead. When I copied the file back all was OK. So just re-copy the folder that contains those files (I think they are in the dds folder).

Tell you what - looks pretty funny having the driver standing up in the MRT

EDIT: Ignore - just read Scawens answer

Last edited by Gentlefoot, Fri 8 Jun 2007, 11:36.

Quote from bbman :

Oh, so I dared to criticize your video and you're trying to hit me where you think it might hurt... No wonder you got so many replies if you always act like this...

I graciously accepted all your criticsm of the video. What I didn't accept was your criticsm of LFS physics which IMHO is pretty much spot on now apart from the collision detection.

Quote from bbman :

Yes, and I know that it's possible, it's just not REALISTIC! If you can't grasp the difference, there is no point continuing this discussion...

In real life racers take curbs. You've never even driven the track in either of these cars anyway.

I have driven on race tracks in real life. I know what it feels like to take a curb and end up on two wheels. But it doesn't always lose you time.

Looking at you stats I would suggest you have very little idea of what is required to be fast in LFS anyway. Your best hotlap time is FOX/AS4 and it is 2 seconds slower than mine. I can't see any impressive lap times in your stats.

Quote from bbman :

You're trying to tell me that cutting a corner with almost all wheels on the grass is realistic? Or that ramming over a steep curb with speeds in excess of 100 km/h is realistic? I don't think so...

Maybe you should watch the trackguide. You will see what is possible with regard curbs around this track. You take as much curb as you can without losing time. Seems pretty realistic to me. Have you ever driven this track in a FOX or FO8?

Personally I think the single seaters offer the best feel and feedback. The steering on them is nice and sharp and it's important to learn throttle control and unwinding the lock as quickly as possible. These cars will get you into good habits.

But really it is about personal preference. It's good to try a variety of cars and compare them. Just have fun I reckon. Don't get too hung up on trying to get faster, just try and avoid accidents and the speed will come for sure.

Quote from bbman :

It was just music with the same scenes over and over again, showing only how unrealisticly you have to throw your car through the chicanes to be quick...

Unrealistic - I've been trying to work out what you are referring to and still can't suss it out. What's unrealistic about it? Looks very realistic to me. Feels very realistic too.

GF

Quote from mcgas001 :

hiya everybody well i have a favor to ask.Ive been racing in lfs for about 2weeks now and i do belive im at my limit of racing now.im confused is this cause im using a keyboard,or maybe my setup,maybe me not knowing enough.i have added a reply of me driving 5 laps of blackwood please look and see f you can help me....

I've been playing for about 18 months and still have not reached my limit. I had a PB that I set about 6 months ago which I thought I'd struggle to get to again. I beat it by over a second on my return and it was easy.

Quote from Mike85 :

I meant not going to SHIFT+U but in regular spectator the ability to turn the view anywhere around a spectated car.

You know like in GTA San Andreas where you can move the view around the car with the mouse (if you played it). Which I guess you didnt

Yes - that's what I meant too
Not shft-U

Next to where it says 'In Car' you can choose 'custom' as an alternative. Then there are various sliders to move the camera left/right/forward/back/up/down change pitch, FOV and rotation all while being attached to the car.

Last edited by Gentlefoot, Wed 6 Jun 2007, 14:43.

Quote from Mike85 :

Also would be nice to have free mouse look from outside of a spectated car. Like a 360 degree camera. Could you try to squeeze that in for W44? It would be a sensation

Sorry for offtopic, but I think it could be done quite fast and easily.

Spectate another driver in in-car view then go to options and choose custom view. You can position the camera anywhere and point it in any direction you like. Is that what you meant?

MRT can be popular. There are a core group of hardcore MRT fans out there and very few servers for it.

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

Time to fashion some Scawen/Victor scarecrows to put up in T1 of every track, I guess.

Do you score most points for Victor or for Scawen?

Quote from Alles :

cant wait to get X soon. now the LFS comunity is separated to W and Wtest. So not many racers to play on same servers... which is sad.

That's true - my server has been dead quiet this week.

Quote from pasibrzuch :

So if I vote for restart and after waiting for others votes I change mind and vote for quali, witch votes (mine) are still valid? Or both?

I think if you vote restart and then vote quali right after the first vote is cancelled and superceeded by the quali vote.

Quote from bbman :

Tbh, I found it boring and turned it off halfway through... It was just music with the same scenes over and over again, showing only how unrealisticly you have to throw your car through the chicanes to be quick... Maybe you should consider doing videos from races, as qualifies don't have action to them (read: passing maneuvres, close driving aso.)...

None of the footage was repeated. But thanks for the criticsm anyway.

There's now only 1 guaranteed slot left for race 1. I will accept up to 10 reserves as there are usually several no shows. 7 failed to turn up last time from an entry list of 26. This grid will have 32 cars on it so I expect at least as many no shows as at FE Club.

Quote from LFSn00b :

Shift+-

I watched the flash one, haven't seen the wmv.

flash has turned out to be terrible quality

Cheers for the message tip. A few of us were wondering that.

Quote from DieKolkrabe :

I've been blue-flagged an awful lot, and tried driving defensively. Which usually results in somebody slamming into me and a hail of abuse. I tried sticking to my line and got 'You f***ing n00b, MOVE OVER! IT'S A F****G BLUE FLAG!'

DK

You've wandered into the wrong servers by the sound of it.

Quote from LFSn00b :

Block all the messages, and do it in a bit higher res, and it's good

Couldn't work out how to block the race messages. Blocked chat easy enough but couldn't find the config for other messages.

Didn't want to go bigger on the res cos of file size. It's 640x480 which looks fine on my machine even in full screen view. You did watch the wmv and not the flash video didn't you?

GF

I personally couldn't car less about real cars. I would like real world tracks but for me UK circuits would be most beneficial and I'm sure real world tracks would be from all around the world.

So really I'm not bothered either way and the effort involved in modelling real circuits to the level needed is just way too much. I would prefer the efforts to be put into constantly improving the race experience by tweaking the collision physics and stuff.

Nice video of this event available here:

http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/GFC.html

I think it vary's from situation to situation. Sometimes stay on line - i.e. going onto s straight, sometime move of it - mid corner you might skirt round the outside to give them the line.

This is racecraft at the end of the day and you learn it with experience. Drivers begin to understand one another too after racing in a series together.

Quote from Gentlefoot :

Here's the highlights from the qualifying session of the pre season race at Fern Bay Club. Fraught!!

Comments welcome - it's my first. The high quality WMV download is highly recomended. Flash video is not good quality.

http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/GFC.html

See the top news item.

Come on - someone must have something to say about this - is it really that bad? I'd love some tips and ideas for the next one.

GF

Quote from sinkoman :

Am I the only one who follows blue flag procedure properly?

Every time I get a blue flag, I stick to my line, and that's it. No blocking, no break checking, I drive defensively and conservatively, till the other person passes me.

But every time I do this, somebody will slam into the back of my car, and start yelling at me "SINKOMAN, BLUE FLAG!". They all yell at me, "blue flag means pull over and get out of the way you tard!!!".

WTF, and it's not just a few idiots, it's EVERY SERVER I GO TO. DAMNT.

So lately i've been trying to do precisely what i'm told, and slam on my breaks and move over. Usually they either slam into my rear end, or T bone me, and scream at me "WHY DID YOU BREAK AND MOVE?"

Holy shit, am I doing something wrong here? I thought that you weren't supposed to actually change your line when given a blue flag.

The GFC is the competition for you mate. We have dual classes so blue flag rules a slightly different and it is really the driver behind's responsibility to lap the driver cleanly.

Have a look at http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/GFC.html and read lots more in the forum. Times are suited to your zone too.

The GentlefootFormulaRacing public server is always open too and I don't stand for "blue flag spamming".

I'm sure you'll all think 20 fast cars in two different classes around a tight, twisty circuit like FE Club is pure madness and you might be right.

It made for an extremely intense experience. You can get a feel for what I mean by watching the video on this page.

http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/GFC.html

Download the wmv file and watch it in full screen view - lights off and music turned up and it's quite an experience.

Here's the highlights from the qualifying session of the pre season race at Fern Bay Club. Fraught!!

Comments welcome - it's my first. The high quality WMV download is highly recomended. Flash video is not good quality.

http://www.gentlefoot.com/LFS/GFC.html

See the top news item.

Last edited by Gentlefoot, Sun 3 Jun 2007, 22:37.