Mate, get onto a mouse and off the game pad, you'll get more speed out of that as an interim before you get your wheel.
And welcome by the way.
Feel free to ask for advice, we will help in any way we can . . .
And welcome by the way.
Feel free to ask for advice, we will help in any way we can . . .
Yea. 'Cause I didn't. And now I'm stoopid. Or somink.
Ah the plan. I like a good plan. Tell me more about the plan. Does it involve world domination and a furry white cat?
Ah. 'Suppose there is very little good footage of the new patch yet, innit.
I wouldn't even know how to test . . . LFS works fine for me online, with good FPS and good pings. My machine ain't ninja nore is my connection. It just works. If it didn't I wouldn't be here . . . If it works, don't break it . . .
I thought we where being quite posotive towards what was, originally, quite a negative post in the first place . . .
Shame. But then maybe LFS just isn't for you.
Shame. But then maybe LFS just isn't for you.
Unfortuantly my friend you have opened the proverbial hornets nest. I can feel the flames rising already . . . .
I think what the devsa have done here with LFS is unique and commendable. They have taken a gamble in way in that by getting the community to support them they are able to give the afformentioned community a sim that they hanker for.
As you get into LFS more (And I hope you do, give it time. It will grow on you) the good points far out weight the bad. The fact that I have only paid £24 quid for what in actuality, a perfectly servicable and usable simulator and that I am garanteed a whole lot more before I will have to pay the final installment can only be a good thing.
LFS is incomplete and it sais all that in the payment small print. You have paid your money and subscribed to an incomplete product. Prehaps more fool you for doing so as you obvioulsy didn't get the 'product' in the first place.
Some of the guys here have been here from the start, I have been here since Patch Q. And I plan to be here for Patch U, V, W, X, Y and Z. WE have seen some MASSIVE improvements in this new Patch T and it can only get better. You have subscribed to a game development, not a finished product.
Try and understand that before you rant about the unfinished'ness of it all. To me, thats part of the attraction.
All your points are easily answered if you punt around the forum for a bit. You will also see the involvment and the love that the Community already has for LFS already and it's not even finished yet.
So Go LFS. Rar, rar, rar.
I think what the devsa have done here with LFS is unique and commendable. They have taken a gamble in way in that by getting the community to support them they are able to give the afformentioned community a sim that they hanker for.
As you get into LFS more (And I hope you do, give it time. It will grow on you) the good points far out weight the bad. The fact that I have only paid £24 quid for what in actuality, a perfectly servicable and usable simulator and that I am garanteed a whole lot more before I will have to pay the final installment can only be a good thing.
LFS is incomplete and it sais all that in the payment small print. You have paid your money and subscribed to an incomplete product. Prehaps more fool you for doing so as you obvioulsy didn't get the 'product' in the first place.
Some of the guys here have been here from the start, I have been here since Patch Q. And I plan to be here for Patch U, V, W, X, Y and Z. WE have seen some MASSIVE improvements in this new Patch T and it can only get better. You have subscribed to a game development, not a finished product.
Try and understand that before you rant about the unfinished'ness of it all. To me, thats part of the attraction.
All your points are easily answered if you punt around the forum for a bit. You will also see the involvment and the love that the Community already has for LFS already and it's not even finished yet.
So Go LFS. Rar, rar, rar.
Is that using the new patch? Didn't look like the LX's tyres where deforming . . .
But good vid though.
But good vid though.
I'm assuming that LFS doesn't exactly model air flow over a car more rather it tells a car how it should react in any given situation. Each car as an 'air flow' box around it that will shrink or grow exponentially as the car accelerates or deccelerates. Thus giving the car and the surrounding vehicles something to reference against to indicate proper behavour. A fairly complitcated bit of programming without adding in lateral slide movement through air. I'm alos assuming that LFS has 'attack' fronts from which the air will be travelling. I can only assume that this doesn't take into account a vehicle travelling sideways or backwards at very high speeds. So what it does do is give teh vehicle a general effect which ever way it is pointing at what ever speed, thus you will have the same downforce acting ont he car going sideways at 150mph as you would going the conventional way at 150mph. Meaning, and this is my point, that slides and out of control situations are easier to catch and control.
The real F1 car doesn't have the luxory of having uniform Downforce. Once a F1 car goes squirly at nearly 200 mph the lateral forces acting on it are immense. Most of the time, if an F1 car goes lateral at these speed even someone like Schumey is just a passenger.
Until LFS can fully model airflow from any direction in any circumstance at any speed you will never get the BF1 to handle exactly like a F1 car. There is to much design and effect going on to really get a true handle on it. Not unless you could download wind tunnel test info and implement them. But to do that you would need the entire LFS community computing power to simulate real world airflow.
I think LFS is as good as it can get for now. Scawen might get tighter on the code and implement more ideas but it's never gunna be any better than a best guess untill we have computers on our desks that can accuratly model and simulate real air flowing over a real car . . . . in Real time.
The real F1 car doesn't have the luxory of having uniform Downforce. Once a F1 car goes squirly at nearly 200 mph the lateral forces acting on it are immense. Most of the time, if an F1 car goes lateral at these speed even someone like Schumey is just a passenger.
Until LFS can fully model airflow from any direction in any circumstance at any speed you will never get the BF1 to handle exactly like a F1 car. There is to much design and effect going on to really get a true handle on it. Not unless you could download wind tunnel test info and implement them. But to do that you would need the entire LFS community computing power to simulate real world airflow.
I think LFS is as good as it can get for now. Scawen might get tighter on the code and implement more ideas but it's never gunna be any better than a best guess untill we have computers on our desks that can accuratly model and simulate real air flowing over a real car . . . . in Real time.
Hyyyyeeeeee thankyou . . . . .
It accoured to me after watching that Slow Mo BF1 movie. I couldn't help but think that that movie could be sexed up to the supreme if you could get the camera right into the curb or get some movement from the camera. There is so much scope with LFS's physics already looking the Bee's Knee's to really make some terrific movies. (Proof being that there already are some terrific movies.)
I been trying to practice a lead car camera with the POV facing backwards watching the car behind trying to make it look like a battle for the lead or whathaveyou. But I just can't ge the camera to follow the track well enough to look realistic.
Just the ability to 'Bolt' the camera to a car would be major step.
Would this be Scawens programming domain? Or is it something we can do? Ignorance is my fourte, but I'm always willing to learn.
It accoured to me after watching that Slow Mo BF1 movie. I couldn't help but think that that movie could be sexed up to the supreme if you could get the camera right into the curb or get some movement from the camera. There is so much scope with LFS's physics already looking the Bee's Knee's to really make some terrific movies. (Proof being that there already are some terrific movies.)
I been trying to practice a lead car camera with the POV facing backwards watching the car behind trying to make it look like a battle for the lead or whathaveyou. But I just can't ge the camera to follow the track well enough to look realistic.
Just the ability to 'Bolt' the camera to a car would be major step.
Would this be Scawens programming domain? Or is it something we can do? Ignorance is my fourte, but I'm always willing to learn.
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helpful as ever . . . . .
Sorry. [sarcasm] [/sarcasm]
Couldn't work out that last one . . . .Kinda know what I had to too, but It ain't happenening for me. . . . story of my life really . . .
I laughed and laughed and laughed. That vid is a gem. A bit of reediting and that could be down in the hall of fame od all time great LFS vids.
Wouldn't have been half as gooid without that music though. Great choice.
Shame he obvioulsy wrecked a few racers race though. A really hate bastards like that, but if you can make a mockery of it then at least we can laugh about it. I can see it now . . . . A wrecker on server. The ban vote goes up . . . 'No don't ban him, let him play, we'll get a good vid out of this . . . . ' Lol.
I loved that bit in the middle . . . 'where is he? Oh, here he is . . . '
Great stuff.
Hope the bastard was banned from all servers under the sun . . ..
Wouldn't have been half as gooid without that music though. Great choice.
Shame he obvioulsy wrecked a few racers race though. A really hate bastards like that, but if you can make a mockery of it then at least we can laugh about it. I can see it now . . . . A wrecker on server. The ban vote goes up . . . 'No don't ban him, let him play, we'll get a good vid out of this . . . . ' Lol.
I loved that bit in the middle . . . 'where is he? Oh, here he is . . . '
Great stuff.
Hope the bastard was banned from all servers under the sun . . ..
God. I was a lad on a Milkround at 15/16. I'd been doing a paper round since I was 14. I had sex at 12 and I was driving at 11. Ok, the last two are blatent lies. I didn't start driving till I was 13.
But my point being is that there are ways and means. If you show keen and eager then somebody somehwhere will give you money for doind a job.
One thing my mate did when we where bashing around in teenage hell was get is parents and their friends with cars to come to a supermarket carpark where he set up a car washing and valet stall. He even got a few of us in on the act to help out. For a fee of course. Poeple saw all these cars lining up to be washed and wanted in on it. Worked like a treat until the Supermarket realised it was loosing to much from it's own carwash.
Show a bit of initiative. FFS, your sixteen. You got nothing to loose.
But my point being is that there are ways and means. If you show keen and eager then somebody somehwhere will give you money for doind a job.
One thing my mate did when we where bashing around in teenage hell was get is parents and their friends with cars to come to a supermarket carpark where he set up a car washing and valet stall. He even got a few of us in on the act to help out. For a fee of course. Poeple saw all these cars lining up to be washed and wanted in on it. Worked like a treat until the Supermarket realised it was loosing to much from it's own carwash.
Show a bit of initiative. FFS, your sixteen. You got nothing to loose.
Camera positions and effects.
Not strictly driving improvements but as LFS seems to have budding home movie makers how about a few more tools for them . . . .
More camera positions, 'curb cam', 'bumper cam' (Front and rear), having the ability to 'stick' the camera to a car so that the axis of the camera follows that of the car.
Also physical effects like camera shake whilst on cars and being effected by the slipstream as cars pass by. Can you imagine the image of a 'bridge cam' fixed to as Aston overhead and as the BF1 comes whipping by, the bridge shakes in the slipstream. Whhhhaa'thump'aaammmmmmm. Wheeeeeaaaaaaa'thump'ammmmmmm.
I think if you got some effects like this actually built into the LFS engine then just imagine how much more life like LFS would look in these movies.
There are some really good movies already out there but give these guys even more tool and just think where they could take it . . . .
Appologies if this kinda thing has appeared already. I did do a brief search but it didn't turn up anything.
More camera positions, 'curb cam', 'bumper cam' (Front and rear), having the ability to 'stick' the camera to a car so that the axis of the camera follows that of the car.
Also physical effects like camera shake whilst on cars and being effected by the slipstream as cars pass by. Can you imagine the image of a 'bridge cam' fixed to as Aston overhead and as the BF1 comes whipping by, the bridge shakes in the slipstream. Whhhhaa'thump'aaammmmmmm. Wheeeeeaaaaaaa'thump'ammmmmmm.
I think if you got some effects like this actually built into the LFS engine then just imagine how much more life like LFS would look in these movies.
There are some really good movies already out there but give these guys even more tool and just think where they could take it . . . .
Appologies if this kinda thing has appeared already. I did do a brief search but it didn't turn up anything.
See if you can recreate the problem and post the replay. It'll tell Scawen alot more than just your written entry . . .
I got a 1mb broadband and most of my pings are around the 30-40 mark. Tbh I don't even try and race on higher ping servers than that. It just gets annoying . . .
I also got the feeling that it's more a client -> server problem than a server -> Client issue.
Just try and join the lowest ping servers around. hopefully you will iliminate most of the lag problems. But there are always one or two around who connect with high Pings . . . It's them, not you.
I think it's a case off if you are using the old wr or old unstable setups then with the new patch they are less effective. If your old setup was stable and took less liberty's with the exploits your setup can hold it's own in the new physics . . ..
Seems like that to me anyway . . . .
But then I thought I was fast at KY GP Long with a 1.14 untill I saw a 1.11. Looks like I got some testing to do . . . .
Seems like that to me anyway . . . .
But then I thought I was fast at KY GP Long with a 1.14 untill I saw a 1.11. Looks like I got some testing to do . . . .
Prehaps it could be a feature of LFS world that you enter your parameters into a 'live' server feed and that when enough people have highlighted a combo their willing to drive or that your parameters have been met then You click ok and LFS will start automatically to put you straight into the server . . . .
This can be done without having to go into LFS itself so you are free to surf and browse the forums untill your mates or a track presents itself that you are up to race on . . . .
Or does LFSWorld already cater for that kinda thing. I havn't really spent much time around LFSW, don't find it particularily ergonomic and user friendly.
This can be done without having to go into LFS itself so you are free to surf and browse the forums untill your mates or a track presents itself that you are up to race on . . . .
Or does LFSWorld already cater for that kinda thing. I havn't really spent much time around LFSW, don't find it particularily ergonomic and user friendly.
Just smile and wave boys, just smile and wave . . . . .
Have we been here somewhere before?
Have we been here somewhere before?
I think maybe I should have had my [sarcasm] [/sarcasm] commands in place for that last point . . .. . lol
I'm quite happy racing my FZR on any track going. TBH I find AS. Nat and BW quite incredable dull. I'm getting into KY GP Long, thats a good track. But I will race anywhere. I'm also not afraid of trying new combos. I espiacially like going down the UF's to see what their up too when I fancy a change of pace. Prehaps a slot allocation system could be offered up to the Devs if thats what the community calls for. The master server will only 'stock' a certain number of BW/BF1's or AS. NAT/GTR's servers. Then once those slots are filled a server must choose some other combo . . .
Hmmm yes. And don't try to be too fast right of the bat, you'll find yourself in the gravel more often than not. Just take things steady, don't get impatient and all of a sudden the pb's will start sneaking up on you . . . .
I think the generally impression from everone here is stay away from the crashfests and go to some less popular (for less popular read 'tracks that people need to learn to race propaly on') car/track combos and just drive. We ain't all noob bashers and we will try to help if we see you online. In fact I'm heading that way very soon so if you have a bit of time hunt me out and I'll impart some golden nuggets . . .. .*Cough*
I think the generally impression from everone here is stay away from the crashfests and go to some less popular (for less popular read 'tracks that people need to learn to race propaly on') car/track combos and just drive. We ain't all noob bashers and we will try to help if we see you online. In fact I'm heading that way very soon so if you have a bit of time hunt me out and I'll impart some golden nuggets . . .. .*Cough*
Mate. Sometimes, with kids; an unsympathetic missus and counting pennies, a wheel just ain't the way is gunna be.
A mouse I have, a mouse I must stick with for the foreseeable future . . . unless someone wants to send me one *Grin*.
A wheel that is . . ..
A mouse I have, a mouse I must stick with for the foreseeable future . . . unless someone wants to send me one *Grin*.
A wheel that is . . ..
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