good design lads . . . . Been through and made a few sudgestions.

I hate it when cute girls can get away with wearing a cap three sizes too big for them . . . . Oh, and did you notice LFS up in the background. Took me ages to see that, my eyes just wouldn't leave the centre portion of the picture . . . . Oh. [Sarcasm] [\sarcasm]

I was always getting pawned in my Cat whilst flying lvl 2 missions . . . . And the last time I played it my new cruiser (Next one up from a Catalyst, Imitar? No, Damnit. I can't remember, looks like a a big . . . something. Anyway.) got sniped by pirates on a lvl 1 security gate. Harsh realities of the Eve Universe that bastard Pirate tactic when they travel in groups, pawn you with a heavier ship then the others loot you once the security guns have taken out the aggresor. . . . Got pissed of then as I had run our of money so I've cancelled my subscription untill my patience has returned . . . .

But at least my characture will always be there . . . Klyborn, if anyone is interested. I was a . . . . . thingy race. You know . . . Caldari? Think thats right . . .

I'll see you Eve'ers when I can be bothered to get back on line . . .

Last edited by Funnybear, Sun, 24 Sep 2006 08:34.

I was playing EVE quite a bit a while back. As far as actual Role playing goes I think it's one of the best. But it does take some getting into and the learning curve is quite steep. But it can be very rewarding given some time and effort. It's a single server system so everyone playing (Which is quite an astronomicl amount) is right there in the same universe as you. It's comminity system is great and the job creation process is incredable detailed and involving.

I won't play WoW on Principle.

Quote from Sp3cTr3 :

Is that U2 song the new official slow motion lfs video theme?

Anyways, I dont know if it was my player or youtube but there seemed to be a lot of stuttering. Also, imo, a slowmotion video is to show off the suspension while its working. You have none of that, so it just seemed you drove really slow.

Try going over some more bumps and take turns, so the weightshifting in the vehicle is more noticable

S'not U2. The Verve (Bitter Sweet Symphony) covered the riff which was originally the Rolling Stones unless I am mistaken and they probs got it from some classical influence somewhere . . .

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

The FXO doesn't need to be slower, the XRT and RB4 don't need to be faster. Pick the car you want to drive and drive it. If it's not fast enough and you want to win, choose a faster one.

/me puts on flamesuit

+ 1,000,000.

*Dives into the nearest lake*

The're there to give you an idea of the cars and the different handling traits. You can use LFS just as much without completing the training, but it does no harm to complete them. Even if just to say you have.



Edit- Got my their, there and the're's mixed up. Got it right now.

May I add in another plus point. The fact that you kept the same camera angles throughout. I didn't really like the cut's to the chase view o rthe internal view, they have promise and fully utilised could be a good addition to your camera POV's, but overall the camera positions where spot on. Allowed continuity and allowed the viewer to keep track of the action. A good note was made that you felt at times the camera moved away from the action. Something Tristan actually mentioned once or twice during the commentary. It's not something huge as we all have to deal with that in the real life coverage as the director and the commentators (In F1 for example) are rarely in cahouts so you could say that it added to the realism as mistakes are all part of being 'real'.

Again, let me reiterate, a top notch job. And I will be wanting to be racing myself in the league pretty soon just so I can hear Tristan say 'Funnybear' over the T'interweb.

Again, top rate job that can only get better as y'all find your feet and confidence. I hope you get some greater reward out of this other then just community kudos, which you have in bucket loads by the sounds of it. If you want a scripter or copywriter just let me know, I'm sure I can find some knuckets of uselessness around here somewhere . . . .

Go you guys . . . . .

Well done guys and Gal! . . .

Great watch. Makes me so wish I was racing with 'em.

Thoroughly well presented and well implemented. Can't wait for the next one.

You should get some adverts in there for the 'break' you had. You know, get some shit hot vid makers we got around here to crank out some LFS adverts and the like. Spoof or otherwise. Think of the future Becks, I am sure other people (None LFSers) will watch this and selling LFS through it can't be bad. And the more popular your enterprise becomes you might even get sponsers and the like . . . Wow, I can see it now. Becky and Tristan international racing commentators, big name sponsers advertising during the add break. Virtual Race drivers being profiled. Keep up the good work!!

A thing I noted from an earlier comment about the lad loosing his connection, I don't think you should shy away from the fact that this is computer based. And I think that as commentators you can be quite a bit more technical (When your more confident . . lol) and talk about the car setups and what wheels people are using, sad stuff like that . . . .


But hey, it's your projuect. Jolly good work. Top marks.

If someone isfaster with the same set it could well be that you just need to practice some more. Just go do plenty of racing and watch other's approaches to corners and the like and learn from them . . .

Quote from Madman_CZ :

Man, ok so i am back and reporting in after that saturday night out with Bob and co. Sunday was a helish day, not only were the beers making me all gasy inside and turning my room into a methane den, the spicy (very spicy) mexican that i had wasnt doing me good either.

When the time came it came fast and on 3 occasions and each one was felt. First one wasnt too bad, little spicy around the edges and the recycled bog role didnt help the matters but by the third later in the day the bog role felt like sandpaper... not to mention it was painful to be in teh sitting position..

my god if i have learnt anything from this.. is dont drink too much beer and each a spicy mexican the same night. It makes your arse BURN!

mad

Awwww, Dewd!!!. You knows it . . .

I had guiness arse again the other night. I know when I'm getting past the sixth pint that it's going to be a fun day tomorrow. I can tell it's coming and I gotta wait for it to back up so I can get it all out at the same time with no going back for a replay. And when it comes, oh boy, does it come. WHAM! BAM! Thankyou mam . .

Phew, guiness mate, doesn't burn but it sure does have some force behind it . . .

Noooo, don't use brake help . . .

Lol.

Learn your setup procedure. There is a way to get cars mouse friendly it's just a case of learning and experimenting.

Which is actually really difiicult to do in a road car because the pedals are too far apart . . . and it's actually using the two sides of your foot to do two different things. It takes quite a bit of practice to get right.


And Brake help. . . .Don't use it. There is nothing you can't do in the setting up of the car which means you have to resort to using brake help. If your using pedals you just need to adjust your braking power and your own right foot untill you get it right. Using brake help just puts another barrier between you and the behavioural limit of the car. Best you do it the hard way untill you get it right.

It's entirley up to you . . .

The gear change type is

A)Normal, typical H box stick shift. What you get in your normal everyday motor.

B)Sequential. Changes gear one after the other in order. . . .Normally associated with paddle's on the steering wheel. Most modern high performance cars and bikes use sequential boxes. This is probable what you would want to use.)

C) Auto. Nooooo, don't go there. Learn to use the box. It's faster.


Throttle blip on upshift. Normally faster. But again, alot of this is down to personal preference. It means that every time you change gear the engine will climb in revs to allow the gear change to be smoother. It's a replacement for you 'manually' heel toeing. A bit of a cheat but no more than auto clutch which nearly everyone uses. Same goes for throttle blip on downshift, it eases the gear transistions. Just play with the settings mate, find out what is best for you . . .

White chocolate chip please. And we can't be held responsible . . .For anything. At all. Never.

Thats giving your hands a lot too do. Try reducing the brake power,the front tyre pressures and giving the front more 'bounce'. That should help you weight the anchor without destroying the tyres and 'tapping' for all your worth.

*Sharp intack of breath* Is gunna cost you.

Lol.

Yea, just sounds like the ball valve is going. . . The valve won't shut off is the only reason for the overflow dripping, or running, or gushing.

S'not a huge deal to replace it (well, actually, it can be) , just turn off the water at the stopcock first, otherwise your gunna get wet. Very wet . . .

Chuck Norris is the only person who can slam a revolving door . . .

I'm reading throught the facts again. It's been a long time. It really is a truly masterful piece of online art . . .

It's a myth. Don't believe all you read on a forum . . .

Can't download the compressor . . . . any other sources?

Only Chuck Norris knows the Virgin Mary's a misnomer . . .



There is only one other that Chuck Norris considers equal and his names Scawen. Together they rule the universe.

(just though I'd slip that one in, but now I got brown stuff on my nose that I can't get off.)

Last edited by Funnybear, Fri, 8 Sep 2006 18:27.

Of course it's legal . . You bought it, you can sell it. I wouldn't though. whats £24 in the long term. LFS is only going to get better. Hang on to it, you'll come back. I garantee it.

Quote from Madman_CZ :

lol...

Well I myself am getting my gut ready for tomorrow, Me, Bob Smith and a few friends are meeting up in town tomorrow as a final proper gathering before Bob goes back to uni. We will drink lots of beer (mainly ale) and a mexican dinner will be thrown in too.. then maybe more beer and a kebab or burger on the way home... should be hell of a night...

Well inkeeping witht the topic pleae let us know what the day after is like. . . . Especially with a mexican, I can imagine all sorts of fun being had with that one. You'll be on the throne all day . .

I think, that prehaps rather than comparing LFS to real life, which is next to impossible because real life is real life and LFS resides in a computer, prehaps what you need to look at is the Principle involved.

If the principles are the same for LFS as they are in RL then what else can LFS do. For me, a car in LFS handles the way I would expect but also doesn't handle in the way I expect. Slighty counter-intuituve but lets see if I can quantify that statement.

I have been driving for nearly 13 years. In that time I have driven anything from big v8's RWD's (Not owned) to my general FWD small engine run about. I've owned a Semi high, semi long RWD transit (Which is great fun btw. I really reccomemd it to anyone. Great eduactor in car control that was) a BMW 5 series (RWD again.) to a triumph Spitfire to a Lotus Elise and up to articulated lorries. Each vehicle give you something to learn, but the general principle will always be the same, you have a finite amount of grip and a finite amount of power which sometimes is at the rear, sometimes at the front and sometimes split both front and back. You learn how to cope with doiffering situations in different ways, my way was generally the crashing way. Which is seriously scary and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

What LFS allows me to do is drive like I know I can drive like but without the recourse of serious injury, death or an expensive insurance claim. LFS allows me to do that because it operates along the same principles that real life does and for me it's that that makes it realistic.

I know that a car taken beyond the limit will turn around and nbite you on the arse and leave your kids with a healthy Life insurance payout. Thats what real life does. In fact, I don't want LFS to be realistic. because real is scary, really scary. And expensive.

So LFS . . keep the principle just don't get anymore realistic . . .Thankyou.

Chuck Norris can win a game of connect four in only three moves . . .



(It's amazing how much longevity Chuck Norris has . . . In fact, Chuck Norris doesn't have longevity, he's immortal.)