to sum up my knowledge about the AI (which may not be complete):
the AI learns by doing laps. skill levels, Cars and tracks are separated, so you have to train each AI driver with each car/track/skill level combination from the start. the longer they run, the faster they get. they even learn to drive the oval, which the absolutely can't with no training at all
the AI doesn't like to race each other. with single car races at the same training level and with the same setups, the AI doesn't change position after the first completed laps, they just drive behind each other
the AI doesn't pit, so they're likely to run out of fuel if the race distance is longer than the fuel in the tank
you can assign skins to the AI by creating skins in LfS that have the same name as the AI. if your first AI is called AI1, just create a new skin in the LfS garage, calling it AI1 and assign the wanted skinfile to it - if you add the AI1 driver to the field, he will use the AI1 paintjob
you can assign setups to AI drivers by using 'AI uses player setup' in the options. that way, each Ai driver uses the setup you chose at the time of adding him to the field. you can change your setup after he is added and it stays the same for the AI driver
the AI learns by doing laps. skill levels, Cars and tracks are separated, so you have to train each AI driver with each car/track/skill level combination from the start. the longer they run, the faster they get. they even learn to drive the oval, which the absolutely can't with no training at all
the AI doesn't like to race each other. with single car races at the same training level and with the same setups, the AI doesn't change position after the first completed laps, they just drive behind each other
the AI doesn't pit, so they're likely to run out of fuel if the race distance is longer than the fuel in the tank
you can assign skins to the AI by creating skins in LfS that have the same name as the AI. if your first AI is called AI1, just create a new skin in the LfS garage, calling it AI1 and assign the wanted skinfile to it - if you add the AI1 driver to the field, he will use the AI1 paintjob
you can assign setups to AI drivers by using 'AI uses player setup' in the options. that way, each Ai driver uses the setup you chose at the time of adding him to the field. you can change your setup after he is added and it stays the same for the AI driver
an online racing simulator, where slower newbies get told on the track to practice offline...
yes removing the AI would be great. that way they aren't welcome online and have noone to race offline... maybe they would even go away and play rfactor - would keep the community nice and small...
and kill the game sooner or later but then again we could all leave and start driving rfactor/GTR. hope they treat us rfactor/GTR newbies with more respect, than we treat the new LfS players...
i suggested that in the RSC forums as well
the 3 additional classes i would like to see in S3: WTCC-style touring cars, le mans like sports-prototypes and racetrucks. 3 of each class would be great.
but then again, other people want to see bikes, others nascar-type stock-cars, others go-karts, so the list would probably go on forever
actually the servers i drove on are in S2 aren't any worse than the servers i spent time on in S1 at the beginning of this year.
maybe that's because i don't drive the FO8 or on servers where the FO8 is allowed.
FO8's attract wreckers and FO8 drivers sometimes turn newbies into wreckers, because on an open server, where all cars are allowed and some newbies drive around in the xfg or uf1, most likely one or 2 FO8 guys join and start complaining about or even banning banning the 'slow roadblocks' on the track
sometimes they don't succeed with the voting and these slower players try to get revenge by messing up everyones race..
i've seen this quite a few times and after that i decided not to join FO8 servers anymore
like said numerous times before - a guy who wrecks because he wants to wreck will not stop because of any tests. it'S not that he doesn't know what is right or what is wrong, it's that he wants to do what is wrong for the fun of it
if things would be really that bad, why is the CRC struggeling and calls for help? why aren't all of the complaing guys supporting the CRC?
maybe that's because i don't drive the FO8 or on servers where the FO8 is allowed.
FO8's attract wreckers and FO8 drivers sometimes turn newbies into wreckers, because on an open server, where all cars are allowed and some newbies drive around in the xfg or uf1, most likely one or 2 FO8 guys join and start complaining about or even banning banning the 'slow roadblocks' on the track
sometimes they don't succeed with the voting and these slower players try to get revenge by messing up everyones race..
i've seen this quite a few times and after that i decided not to join FO8 servers anymore
like said numerous times before - a guy who wrecks because he wants to wreck will not stop because of any tests. it'S not that he doesn't know what is right or what is wrong, it's that he wants to do what is wrong for the fun of it
if things would be really that bad, why is the CRC struggeling and calls for help? why aren't all of the complaing guys supporting the CRC?
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like i said - a serverside option - this leaves plenty of room for unfiltered racing and the ammount of additional tasks required to do before the player can join are much less than forced driving tests - for the experienced driver, it's one or two laps around his desired track to make it into the 115 or 120% mark - and if some server-hosts set their mark to 107%, they do not want new/inexperienced drivers (like i would call myself as well) which isn't a problem in my eyes. i don't want to race on pro-only servers where i end up last and get flamed because of being slower, being a newbie and so on
and about the trackchanging - do you remember S1 with the unlocks? and what happened if a server had the racemanager track-changer running with forced cars on certain tracks? this wouldn't be any different... you'd receive a message that you're not able to chose the track/car combination and will be put in spectate..
i think this will be much better than actually forcing people to do the tests - there can't be a perfect solution, as long as people want to drive cars faster than they can control. i'd rather stick to the ones i can handle than going for the FO8 straight away - that'S why i almost never drove it...
it seems like a lot of self-titled pro-drivers want to get rid of us newcomers and inexperienced drivers. that'S sad, but i'd rather not be able to join certain 'elite' servers, than being forced to take boring tests
look at the number of servers with absolutely no filters at all - around 50% of the servers right now accept all cars - those are the servers, where all is allowed and the host didn't take time or didn't want to think about any filters. and he probably won't do that in the future
and there's still the option to host a game for one or two laps to get your first lap online - or in other words, to qualify for a server with required PB
if so, it should be an additional serverside option - most things that look good for one series would make things worse in another series
so the only way to bring things like this into the game would be a serverside option (like the forced pitting or the mid-race-join) where the host decides if he wants damage carried on or not
so the only way to bring things like this into the game would be a serverside option (like the forced pitting or the mid-race-join) where the host decides if he wants damage carried on or not
you're right, single lap quali takes about 30 minutes - maybe a little more on longer tracks - but 30 with 6 pools is still 3 additional hours
not sure if that's good (unless we have 3 race servers at the same time)
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you can't seperate a wrecker with a test - a wrecker like most of us use the word wrecks because he thinks it'S fun
so if someone wants to drive the wrong way, loves to take out all the cars trying to lap him and looks forward to full speed T1 crashing, there is no test in the world that will prevent him from doing so...
you can only separate good/experienced drivers from newcomers with a driving test - and you're putting off a large percentage of these newbies by that
you'll also turn off a lot of the newcomers from different sims liek GPL/GTR/rFactor/GP4/F1C... because a lot of people with a 3 or 4 year simracing career do not like forced tests to prove their ability to race online. they've proven it a thousand times with other sims
if i want tests, i go and buy GT4 - i bought S1 and then S2 when it came out, because i wanted an online racing sim and no offline driving test...
the possibility to make some host settings like the PB-percentage from the WR needed to join (offer the server host to chose a number between 100 and 120% or set it to 0% for no limit) would be a great way to filter - maybe another possibility would be to offer another host filter - like minimum distance driven in a certain car or on a certain track online
the driving tests from my point of view will make the game worse instead of better, if you force anyone to take them
if you want to teach racing rules, make a little screen after or before the account unlock in LfS where the basic rules (blue flag, yellow flag, some hints for turn 1 ...) will be shown and which stays on screen for forced 45 seconds - this could help much more than any test
i'm strictly against single lap quali - the hotlap quali does a good job keeping the races even and separating the grids..
this isn't a pro-only league, so the organizers have to keep in mind, that there is a large difference between the fastest and the slowest guys
the only single lap quali i could imagine, is a pre-race qualification for the starting order, but after the grids have been finalized
this would be interesting but would take a lot of time with 5 or 6 grids like in the last season
this isn't a pro-only league, so the organizers have to keep in mind, that there is a large difference between the fastest and the slowest guys
the only single lap quali i could imagine, is a pre-race qualification for the starting order, but after the grids have been finalized
this would be interesting but would take a lot of time with 5 or 6 grids like in the last season
looking good tweak - especially the bottom left one with the stripe under the OLFSL - would look great on the merchandise i guess.. looks pretty professional
i like it - i would only change it a little to make it look a little 3 dimensional. maybe make the OLFSL look metallic and reflecting the sun somewhere - i don't know..
the basic design looks good for me
the basic design looks good for me
sounds fine to me - real life tracks or fantasy - i would be interested in both
but like you said - STAGE 4 - after everything else is finished
and if it should be RL tracks, it would probably much more expensive because of license costs - but imagine being able to drive spa, the nordschleife, bathurst, le petit le mans and indianapolis with the S2 (and upcoming S3) cars - would be a great track pack
but then again i would rather spend my money on a handful very nicely built custom tracks, that include a short 'club' variant, an interesting rallyecross-variant and a longer GP variant. would be grat to have one in a mediteranian city (to have some monaco feeling), one up north maybe with snowy landscape around it (and on the rallyecross parts), one in germany or france which is a highspeed track in the GP variant and one in the states (2 different oval configurations - superspeedway and smaller dirt oval as well as infield racing) and one track in the southern hemisphere (australia/south america/south africa)
but either way, i'd definetly pay for my S4 license to get one of these
it was the same way with S1 final and i don't have many hopes to see intelligent AI before S3
since the AI doesn't race each other (except for the first 1 or 2 laps) but only follows the racing line and doesn't start overtaking, a single player championship is kind of useless..
fixing the AI, making their skills a vary from 90-110% in different parts of the race and allowing them to pit (which also could replace the horrile AI repair) would be needed first. i hope it will come sooner or later, but i doubt it - LfS isn't called 'online racing simulator' for nothing - could also be called 'do not race offline simulator' right now...
fixing the AI, making their skills a vary from 90-110% in different parts of the race and allowing them to pit (which also could replace the horrile AI repair) would be needed first. i hope it will come sooner or later, but i doubt it - LfS isn't called 'online racing simulator' for nothing - could also be called 'do not race offline simulator' right now...
i don't race in your series, but you're completely right here - endurance races in my eyes are 2+ hours - everything below that doesn't leave enough room for different strategies with different types of cars
don'T want to disturb your creativity with inventing awards, vykos will not be able to win, but if you look at the title correctly, it is called TEAM awards 
i'd nominate myself for the slow drivers award, but since this is about teams, i guess most of the award ideas aim in the wrong direction
i'd nominate myself for the slow drivers award, but since this is about teams, i guess most of the award ideas aim in the wrong direction
Twister-Racing lineup for the 12 hour race:
Marius Golombeck (bash0r)
Falko Dörfel (jackdr)
Lennart Kaiser (knart)
also in the MoE lineup:
Daniel Hager (tridh)
and myself Ralf Grasser (dasklee)
6th spot in our season roster is still available
Marius Golombeck (bash0r)
Falko Dörfel (jackdr)
Lennart Kaiser (knart)
also in the MoE lineup:
Daniel Hager (tridh)
and myself Ralf Grasser (dasklee)
6th spot in our season roster is still available
nicely written...
i'm with a team right now, but your goals and requirements for upcoming teammembers sound quite good - not too focussed on winning and not at all arrogant (especially the blue flag part - respect the slower ones..)
good luck in finding some teammates - if you can manage to build a team around these aims, it will be a valuable addition to the LfS scene
if you do not succeed, feel free to contact me - i think we can always build in drivers like you into our team. i'll have a word with our teamleader then..
hehe yes - but then again, i usually do not post for the team, i do post for myself as an idividual.. just helped my team leader with the MoE, because he doesn't visit the english forums and because he's even less talented when it comes to skinning (hard to believe, i know *g*) and i usually do not use my real name...
so i don't want to put that all in my signature
here's our ride - not beautiful, not fast but ours...
..so much for the boring FXR's
Ralf Grasser
#2 Twister-Racing
EDIT: forgot the signature once again
..so much for the boring FXR's
Ralf Grasser
#2 Twister-Racing
EDIT: forgot the signature once again
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any security-software running? firewall, anti virus or something?
you do get lag each time you use network connection, so it seems like a network or network-security realted problem
since it also happens in LAN games, i would rule out ISP problems
you do get lag each time you use network connection, so it seems like a network or network-security realted problem
since it also happens in LAN games, i would rule out ISP problems
hm i think all of the suggestions except for #5 are actually worth thinking about
as for the restarting - if the server host has more power to customize the hosted-game, this could be one of the options there (percentage of positive votes)
some of the suggestions were mentioned before, but then agian, good thoughts will be mentioned quite a few times - that's the difference between good and bad ideas
as for the restarting - if the server host has more power to customize the hosted-game, this could be one of the options there (percentage of positive votes)
some of the suggestions were mentioned before, but then agian, good thoughts will be mentioned quite a few times - that's the difference between good and bad ideas
hm i haven't noticed any suspension damage caused by curbs yet - maybe i was just lucky or didn't hit them hard enough, but as far as i know, the only danger comes from losing control or killing the tires if you hit very rough curbs
Ralf Grasser
twister-racing
EDIT - forgot the signature thingy
Ralf Grasser
twister-racing
EDIT - forgot the signature thingy
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