XFG. Cheap and practical.

Quote from Bandit77 :

I don't give a sh*t if Scawen said that chocolate tastes better the longer you wait.


The ability to read is a virtue.

Well, I think I have to be very clear on that one:

Actually, Scawen didn't mention chocolate at all. Nor any other kind of candy. He did say though that the Scirocco isn't the only thing he is working on, and he hinted that there might be an update on suspension (especially, as LfS doesn't feature the Sciroccos real life suspension type yet), graphics and other things he hasn't even disclosed yet.

So, basically he had the choice between offering the "chocolate" as it was (a highly detailed Scirocco without it's proper suspension, graphical bugs and only some fixes) or something of a better quality (VWS with it's real suspension, no graphical bug for users of a certain GPU, more fixes, more features) at a later date.

I am sure you noticed the quotation marks around the chocolate. That indicates that I wasn't about actual chocolate, which, on a sidenote, doesn't make you fat if it has a cocoa percentage of 70 or above, but rather using it as a metaphor. In fact, I just reused a very fitting metaphor of another forum user which I found fitting, and to which I was answering directly.

Also, I seem to not have gotten the memo which says "if you don't bitch like a whiney little kid not getting sweets, it's called brown-nosing".
Trust me, I'd like to see the patch or a progress update like anyone else. But do I loudly complain if I don't get one of these right now? No, because I have more important things in my life than updates to LfS or LfS' developement progress.

I'd also like to add that I trust the devs to be honest. As long as they don't say otherwise, I assume they're still working on it. And even if they didn't, it would still be no reason to insult them on a personal level like many in here do.

Last edited by ColeusRattus, Sun 19 Apr 2009, 14:02.

Quote from Bandit77 :

Oh yeah? How come?

Because Scawen said so. He was even quoted one page ago...

The ability to read is a virtue.

Quote from adagio4lv :

If we are given the paper (introducing vid, info and car photos) from chocolate (CAR IN LFS), and than told that the chocolate will be given to us on date - x and we don`t get it at the time, so in my understanding, we have all rights to whine

Now who's off worse? Someone who's offered chocolate, but due to unforseen reasons, gets the chocolate later. A benefit of the wait is that the chocolate is of a higher quality than it had been when it was offered in the first place.
Or someone who isn't offered chocolate at all?

I think that most of the whining in here is about as justified as the whining of a four year old, lying on the floor in front of the candy in a supermarket banging his fists and crying for chocolate.

Got most of them on pro.

I assume there will be tons of improvements, but none will be as pronounced as the Scirocco, making many people angry because "only the scirocco was added".

oops, my mistake, wanted to put a 6 in there but misclicked... damn touchpad.

hmm, must've been back in 89/90

This thread is only alive because if it wasn't, there would be dozens of "where's my Scirocco" threads on the frontpage.

You can play normally online with a demo account.

Quote from The Very End :

OOkay, good for you, I guess.

On the other side, I'm fairly sure we'll get a update this month about progress, if not I'm going to cut my wrists.

You do know that this sentence is reason enough to call an ambulance on you to prevent a suicide attempt, don't you?

If it was meant jokingly, which I suspect, it's just bad taste, but if it was meant earnestly, I'd advise you to rather get some proffessional help.

Quote from wheel4hummer :

To me, supporting pirates is quite hypocritical if you don't support war mongering governments or international enterprises which exploit both humans and resources.

I might add that not condemning something is slightly different to supporting something.

I am personally a pacifist and I oppose physical violence in any form. Still, I kind of understand why the pirates act as they do, and I don't find it to be worse than how western countries act.
You may call it naive, but I am deeply convinced that there isn't a single person on this planet who is deliberately "evil" by heart. "Good" and "bad" are very dependant on your point of view.
Now I don't want to justify crimes or violence, but rather reming that every conflict has two sides who think they're right.

Well, neither is bombing countries, still the wets likes to do that.

To me, condemning pirates is quite hypocritical if you support war mongering governments or international enterprises which exploit both humans and ressources.

I just want to know what would be the difference between being kidnapped and being arrested by an unofficial paramilitary force.

Also, even though I too think that these pirates are in rather for their own financial good than any ulterior motives, I don't think they have the means to only pick out the "bad vessels" but simply target everything from the developed world.

If you don't care, what use would the info be to you?
If you have followed the wholen scirocco affair you know quite well why there's a dead silence from the devs. If not, let me summarize.

Scirocco was announced to be released a week after the announcement. Everyone was excited.
Then, during the Testpatching phase, which supposedly should've only shown some easily solvable quirks, some serious bugs appeared for a large number of those using the testpatch. Solving these bugs was more difficult than anticipated which pushed back the release. Which lead to many people saying very mean and stupid things.
Lesson learned: an announcement even one single week before the release is too early tro be 100% sure that it's doable. Thus, I think the earliest we will be informed of the next patch release is when Scawen uploads it.

Also, during the holidays, Scawen moved and got serious internet connection issues further preventing the completion of the patch, and Eric got seriously flamed which provoked the IMHO justified angry reply of him.

Woul've linked to this, but as it is, there are no dimensions of them either.

What do you need them for?

Adittionally, you can already enable a HUD.

If the driving physics are good enough to be fun (see Gran Turismo or even better Enthusia) I can do without a damage model.
Of course NfS is never going to be a true to life simulator, but I'd be content with a proper "car porn" game for the PC.

I assume that the Scirocco will be released to the public with limited setup options.
I for one think that the version we will see is 0.6A, and not Z12, which I think is an internal beta build.

Additionally, I've never seen such a dual speedometer, but that may be due to the fact I live in a country where we use a proper system Metric FTW!

Quote from Tur8o :

the thing is they dont have to put ten thousand words, just a few sentences and screen shots every three weeks would satisfy every moaner out the i would reckon

That is a misconception. As I have witnessed it with other games, it's rather the more info is released, the more people moan and complain, especially, if info gets out too early and that particular feature is cancelled.

Also, it won't change anything, would it? We know the Scirocco is going to be released and there isn't anything more to say about it. You all know what happened when Scawen estimated a time of arrival, and you all know what's going to happen if he doesn't meet his "early 09" estimation.

I just can't understand what's happening in the heads of some people here. They act like the Scirocco is 100% complete and Scawen deliberately holds it back just to piss them off. I for one think that Scawen will be even more happy than we are once it's released, and he doesn't hold it back for no reason but the simple one that it isn't finished to a degree that's compatible with his vision of the quality of LfS.

Had that idea some time ago, see here: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=50071

I still agree that this would motivate some people to race more.

Last edited by ColeusRattus, Tue 7 Apr 2009, 08:44.

I actually read it, and let me say that I for one am glad that the OP doesn't have it his way, or we would just play another NFS/Grid clone.

yay for me ^^

I love how the ones acting as spoiled brats calling those who remain calm and want to maintain a good atmosphere in here "blind fanboys".

Honestly, who's the more fanatic? One who can just wait as long as it takes the devs to finish it, or those who go through various negative emotions because they don't get it now?

Really, some people in here need to relax.