it would be fun if bits of someone's bumper went into your intake vent and choked your engine... lolz

actually... fenders do come off...

and are you forgetting about clutch fades, tire wear, and suspension damage? those are good too

when you say "teeny bit of slip" to get past some corners, do you mean to get past corners where the turning ratio can't get you through? i don't think there are tracks like that in LFS...

^nice one!... but... i wonder if there are shallow gutters i can hook my tires on when i turn?

what driver did you use?

Quote from Stiggie :

Impressive how some of you manage to go offtopic all the time, but i thought this topic was about someone showing his drifting. All i've heard about my drifting was 1 comment: very nice! (thx ) With a few views on replays. Would it be a idea to go ontopic and flame on my and/or other's replays?

the drifting was horrible, i watched it... and commented

^just pretend that your guy has paddle shifters

guys... the best solution to this problem is to just have a replica of a car cabin built for gaming...

Quote from ciph :

No game is supposed to see if you move your hands. Its also called reaction time and not any weridness of lag. If you press a key windows dont know you are starting to press it it only knows when you pressed it fully <- Same shit.

And this "LAG" will not happen if your reaction is good to change a gear, and real drivers usually let their hands on the Gear controller.

I dont see why it shouldnt be possible... Anyone else who says something different lacks of informations, i worked once as a Game Dev i know what im talking about.

right on! so there is an "animation lag" this is when your brain sends signals to your hands.

i watched a documentary about speed called SPEED hosted by Jeremy Clarkson.

it turns out that everyone has the same reaction or "lag" but athletes are just so well trained that they move their body into position before they need to. they observe tale-tail signs of the mark and is prepared for it, that's why it seems like they have sharp reactions.

to tie it back to the point, we do have an "animation lag" where we reach for the shifter and move it, but we know when to do it so we have our hand on the shifter at the end of a straight, preparing to down shift.

so there is no point in adding an additional animation on top of our actions... if you want to have it be realistic enough that you can learn to race/drive stick on LFS... just get a wheel with an H shifter

Quote from DaveWS :

If we had a friggin S1/S2 licensed only forum then we could have proper threads without trying to hide stuff all the time.

why hide stuff?

i looked in this type of thread because tweaks allow for engine mods, which i then i can put real engines in the LFS cars...

btw, the only reason i am still a demo user is because i am extremely "asian"(this means "cheap"[due to stereotyping] in America)... and i don't want to spend 50 dollars on a game before making sure it's what i am looking for, which is the most realistic driving game that i can get... i am still going to try netKar Pro and Richard Burns Rally, my computer at the moment can't handle it....

but, i am just not sure about what is the most realistic in terms of traction modeling, damages(not aesthetic, suspension, clutch, tire, and brake damage), driving modeling(correct modeling of a manual transmission), and tune-ability(engine upgrades, suspension mods, steering rack, and gearbox)

and btw, ciph, i have trouble understanding ur sig...

Quote :

If you like realistic racing then go and get a driver license and leave us alone

i thought the only reason that people play LFS is because of realism... or am i wrong?

hand and feet IR is just unnecessary, just get the G25...

Quote from Stang70Fastback :

Funny. The handbrake is like THE stunt tool of any car...

...but I guess if it isn't COOL to use it, then you shouldn't

meh, i don't

damn, those ****ing territorial terrorist sons of bitches won!

i learned with the ebrake, and i am just used to pedal initiation, i think it's more "pro" and i don't like touching the ebrake much

and also, when people mock drifters, it typically goes like this...
"hey, oh, yeah! handbrake turns all day long, man!"
while he or she mimes pulling on the ebrake...

Quote from Nemox :

That wouldn't be cheating... Cause you wouldn't be able to enter...
The server is restricted to XRT, FZ5, RB4 and LX4...

oh, whoops nevermind, apperently this is not a demo friendly event...

^yeeeeeeah... ok, that's cool, what ever you say good for you!

and another point is that i find it better to NOT take your hand off the steering wheel as you are about to enter a turn, just my 2 cents. and i just think that it's more conventional to initiate with the pedals.

and it's too stereotypical that people drift with ebrakes

Last edited by atlantian, Tue 12 Feb 2008, 23:26.

^btw, lolz... yes it is, yes it is

^ergo, i say that ebrakes are for people who are too afraid to do anything, it's too predictable

Quote from Stang70Fastback :

No, you haven't DIED until you have done 60 in a 35 zone, on windy dark roads with black ice and snow on the asphalt...

you know that's the most dangerous thing i could think of at the time right? that was to taunt people, because i am pissed at people saying cars under 200 bhp is soooo dangerous

yeah, can i join even if i can only use the XRG, but what about using the BMW formula car? would that be cheating?

Last edited by atlantian, Thu 14 Feb 2008, 21:54.

Quote from Anonymous :

what's wrong with us? we talk about breaking the rules a little every once in a while, ehhh, live a little, right?

wtf... you haven't lived until you have done 60 in a 35 zone, on windy dark roads with black ice and snow on the asphault...

i just use the rally cross setup with closer gear ratios, slightly raised suspension and road tires... it's really good to whip around in! extremely tail happy! and it gives excellent front tire grip!

Last edited by atlantian, Tue 12 Feb 2008, 03:03.

Hey i saw some people on youtube with an analog handbrakes. how do you make an extra axis that would connect into the G25?

Quote from nisskid :

yeh, kind of, it comes apparent pretty quickly how useful the handbrake is mid corner, having the handbrake allows u to maintain angle whilst slightly slowing down as throttle will move u in the direction of the rear wheels and usually against the momentum, meaning the car is pushed into the corner as well as picking up some momentum. if ur coming in shallow and wont make it to the apex u sometimes have to "arse drag" which is pretty much holding the handbrake to maintain the angle and keeping with the way of the momentum instead of pushing against it and into the corner, meaning it wipes off momentum without pushing against it. arse dragging isnt really looked well upon, buts its often better than straightening up to make the corner.

also when it comes to battles, if u carry more speed into a corner then use the handbrake to enter wiping off some speed, it will be easy for the follower to keep up on ur arse, if u carry less speed down the straight and use a flick or something and power into the corner its a lot easier to get some distance on the follower.

so yeh, a lot of top level drivers use the handbrake to adjust the drift, but for entry u really need to get the scando or similar mastered.

oh, sigh... this doesn't even deserve a dignified resonse

BTW: sorry about the triple post, but i saw each of the posts one at a time