GT5 with a G25 is absolutely fantastic in terms of handling, physics, and of course graphics. I'll never forget LFS, its still a fantastic sim, but is starting to look dated when compared with other sims, and with a patch that was supposed to be out in a week just under two years ago it does make you question the development speed. I have no doubt in my mind that the patch will refresh LFS especially with the new tyre physics but surely a test patch wouldn't be a bad idea, or at least more regular and detailed updates than "we're still working on it". Estimated times are good too - just no release dates.
Its good but Its not a Sim with Real Handling !
I play it some days and in my opinion its only a Semi Acarde racer like the other GT Games too. Nothing change really big. They have a cockpit now and every Kid think wow its Real. No its not. It looks only Phantastic, but i wanna feel the cars i move, not look at it in replays.
GT5 is a CARPORN.
Life of software goes faster than human beings. For example Win95, only 15 years, but it's prehistoric!
LFS is something like 7 years old, so executing it may look like boning 70 yo grandpa BUT, since eletricity goes very very fast inside our PCs the time goes veryy sloooow (relation of speed of light and elapsed time) for our lovely sim (LFS).
That means this application is approximately 23 yo brunette.
I can assure you the "electricity" inside PCs go no faster or slower than anywhere else in the universe actual electrons are another matter being that one can exist in 2 places at the same time and not exist at all
This thread has gone so far off topic and has been hanging around sooo long....
.. Maybe Santa will bring some public test patch, who knows
I had a dream I was giving Henry VIII a lift in my car and he was spazzing out because I was doing 60mph and he thought his body would explode over 20mph. I then dreamt about the restraunt sketch at the end of the Python film "Meaning of Life", which brought me back to Henry VIII's cronic IBS.
The moral of the story: Sometimes it's better not to psycho analyse your dreams...
I believe he was referring to Einstein's relativity theory where things moving at high speed experience time more slowly, thus making LFS a 23 year old brunette despite only being 7 years old*.
* I reserve the right to be completely incorrect. It's not as if the original post made a lot of sense.
>Implying i drive online only and not prefer driving offline improving my times and avoiding riffraffs at the same time.
GT2, 4 for a couple of years GT5 hopefully longer.
GTL and rFactor, WRC championship on my bellowed PS2 (that was a really good rally sim), DIRT very enjoyable if you ask me and LFS its kinda meh after a few weeks i mean car rolls fine and all but I already seen everything game has to offer and get bored by bad visual design of the tracks and small number of the same tracks
I mean look at you 23563 laps for 5 years on the same damn 7 tracks in different configurations (Probably more laps since there is offline option, how can you stay sane after looking on the same scenery every lap for 5 years ), look its not my fault i have bigger demands than you i guess some people can get satisfied with literally anything
No one has had any success in that yet. Someone has managed to alter the tracks a little by .exe / hex editing, but it's a highly unstable and not adviced to do so. Seen someone that have managed to change the surfaces of the current tracks, and even made elevation changes to them.
In a wished future the developers had released their work tools and methods to create track to LFS, but tbh I doubt that ever will come.
sry but if you think you can compare GT with LFS its your misstake,
on GT works more as 100 people(5 years), Simbim has 60 People and more in Work for his projekts, & Image Space are 12 people with thousend of private People they release every day her stuff (85% are trash in meaning of Simulation), and WRC on ps2 mmmhm its good game but nothing to do with a Sim (try RBR on PC).
You dont understand LFS sry.
I know you didnt do it but try one car on one Track for a month and you will see every corner is totaly different as you aspectet as the beginning.
LFS is learning, learning, learning all other sim (rfaktor & GTL mostly) is only Driving around.
And think about this: GT 60 euro - Lfs 24 Euro.
( and my KM are 10 time higher because i drive on lan (offline) here with 4 friends in the same house -everyday- . Because we all have G25 and like to compare it in real condition with same Calibration(clutch h-shifter-720 degree))
And yes i can wait because LFS is for me a LIFETIME project.
The Way is the GOAL !
I am only a customer an end user i dont care about number of people doing games, their budget, time they had etc all I care is final product, nothing else matters for me.
Sim an overused word, lets look at it, Simulator nomen omen simulates something, so what does LFS simulate?
A flexible tyre, work of suspension it doesnt really simulate anything that exist in real life because it simulates components of a car but not a particular car, yes cars in LFS are based on existed cars but even so cars in LFS doesnt act as a real live cars.
An aliens is a good example no real car could drive with those setups not to mention wining races.
And in LFS those unrealistic settings give you the best result so even if LFS simulates something you can clearly see it not really realistic, i can take rollcage and say its a sim because its simulates something that is no existent.
Cars in LFS are like an object with suspension, engine, tyres, cage, frame, etc and its behaves more or less like such an object would but its not really an existent car, neither its behave like real car with the same characteristics should.
It is you who think you understand LFS but you dont.
Oh luk at me I am so hardkorez racer i could play LFS in excel...
Saying stuff like you dont have time to look at scenery its an overused excuse and even kid can see how retarded that is.
Unless you really want to say that while driving you see only asphalt.
Did it ever flew trough you scull that there are people who are more observant than you are, who pay more attention to details, who are more demanding and there is no reason why your preferences in games are better than mine, or why should LFS be developed to suit your taste and not mine.
You are not the bellybutton of the universe get used to it.