Quote from glyphon :

when you are playing a game at 800x600, it will fill up the whole monitor screen the same as 1600x1200. for me, 800x600 is 19" and 1600x1200 is 19". my monitor doesn't magically resize for the larger resolution.

That was my point
Most people viewing the sample images wouldn't have resized them to fit the screen, thus the 800x600 image still looks as though it contains as much detail as the 1600x1200 image, yet it only contains a quarter.

I'm not arguing about which looks better and i'm not tying to pick a fight with you Glyphon. I admire the fact that you have provided sample images to back up your claims. My only concern was that there may be a bias inherent in the way the samples were presented.

Sorry Chris, here's you thread back ....

Quote "Need For Speed - Online Racing Simulator"

Firstly, i'm not an oval racer, but like Becky said, i'll have a go occasionally for a change of technique. However, I can't understand the almost instantaneous uproar that comes from track racers when there is a request for another oval.

As quoted above, LFS is a 'RACING' simulator. Now I know it can probably never accommodate all genres of racing (anyone for a mod ?), but it should accommodate the most popular types of european and american racing (IMHO). Track racers have a few tracks and configs to choose from, oval racers have one, so it would already appear a little biased if you're a major fan of oval racing.

I just laughed to myself at some of the comments here earlier ... imagine what would have originally been said if/when someone suggested adding a car park to LFS. Oh the uproar "a what ?", "WTF", "useless" etc etc etc Yet, we have them.

I think the idea of an extreme test facility is a valid one, incorporating a high speed banked circular track, drag strip, brake test area, skid pan, multiple karting track configs inside for the MRT etc

Now where this goes on the list of priorities is not for us to decide, that will be decided by the devs.

Quote from glyphon :

you completely miss the point...the point being that a smaller resolution with AA and AF enable can look better than a higher resolution without AA and AF enabled.

That may be true, but it's slightly misleading when one picture is half the size of the other. Double the size of the 800x600 image and then compare them. I think thats what Blowtus was trying to say

Quote from thisnameistaken :

... Edit: Only guy I've seen around here who has the Thrustmaster wheel declared it decent, but with really poor quality paddles that he had to do a hatchet job on to get them working properly. If you're not an electrician you might want to give it a miss ...

It WAS decent, but then the force feedback mechanism started slipping. I run 100% FFB in the driver and only 40% in LFS so i didn't think I was stressing it too much

I had to disconnect the motor from the system and remove the power to it. Now I have no 'feel' to the wheel at all and i'm having difficulty getting used to it, I didn't realise I drove relying on tactile input so much.

So if you want a second hobby repairing your wheel, get the RGT, but if you just want to race, pick something else

Just a small glitch I noticed, which i'm not sure is specific to the test versions or not.

When altering the button opacity in the interface options, it affects the opacity of the colour sliders in both the interface screen and the display screen.

Please see attached for an example ...

PS. Keep up the good work

What are peoples opinions of changing the type of event ?

Personally, this is first and foremost an LFS event, therefore it's safe to assume that most, if not all of those that would attend will be avid drivers / racers / motorsport fans.

I understand that the intention of the event is to bring LFSers together socially, but if you remove the 'common ground' of racing I fear there will be fewer wanting to attend.

I'm not saying this has to be a karting event, but something motorsport related. Although, TBH, any other corporate motorsport event is probably prohibitively expensive, so it'll end up being karting anyway.

Perhaps it's time for a poll on which types of events people would prefer ?

/Discuss

Quote from Alan Dove :

Here's a bit of Friday night reading for you lot -

http://www.karting1.co.uk/whilton-mill-kart-track-guide.htm
http://www.karting1.co.uk/braking-karting.htm
http://www.karting1.co.uk/overtaking-karting.htm
http://www.karting1.co.uk/kartsteering-karting.htm
...

Nice reading, just one problem ...

The braking guide -
If I was to brake in the manner shown in that guide (remebering i'm not the lightest of people), everyone would know my braking point on the first corner, as the rear axle would be left lying there from when it was ripped unceremoniously from the kart. Then, to rub salt into my wounds, everyone would know what line I was taking to the apex of the first corner as the arse end of my kart leaves scrape marks on the tarmac

I don't think there's much point in me going to bed, i'm just too bloody excited
So if i'm missing tomorrow, you'll know I tried to stay up all night and then finally fell asleep at 7:30am

Well, this is it, one more sleep, then GO GO GO

I'm still on the scrounge for anyone with recording equipment for some in-kart footage. I'll bring the bullet cam and stuff down with me anyway just in case, you never know who might get bored of holding the camera track side and is willing to risk it in a kart

I think at this stage it's only fair that I reveal my real name (if I haven't done it before), so it's ... Decibella ! Umm, no, wrong thread ... it's Neil.

Look forward to seeing you all there

Quote from keiran :

...One thing I hate about hire karts is the seats are always too big for me so I move about in the seat ...

Ummm, don't think i'll have a problem there. My padding is built in and I just can't seem to remove it

Quote from t1ger :

Not long to go now, so I'm starting to get nervous!

That make 2 of us then ! Perhaps we'll have to rename the team

Sorry to hear you can't make it Smax, I was looking forward to putting a face to the name.

I'd still quite like to get some in-kart footage using the bullet cam I have, but my video camera has no video in. Does anyone have a cam that we could use for the purpose ?

Neil.

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Yeah I almost bought one last November but couldn't find a UK stockist at the time, so I bought a DFP instead. ...

Well I think you made the right choice

Quote from Richardf :

You think that's bad, it took me about 2 minutes to figure out how to put it in first gear.

I'm not joking.

I thought my wheel had broken for about 5 minutes before I suddenly had one of those light bulb moments ..... Bike Engine !!!!

Seriously though, i've just come off one of the Odd Combo Club servers driving the MRT around SO and Tristan hit the nail on the head - ultra smooth input is the key. Don't try and correct a slide like any other car, it'll basically tank slap you, it's really not something you can 'grab' or 'wrestle' around the track.

But, it's great fun once you learn some of the nuances (and believe me, i'm still learning )

LOL ^^

AndroidXP, you should see the state of my Saitek R440

Quote from thisnameistaken :

Ooh, is that a Thrustmaster RGT wheel? How is it?

You noticed !

I've had a few problems with it to be honest...
I bought it in March and by April the buttons on the paddle shifters went haywire, double downshifting etc, I replaced them with some new ones from Maplin and all was well for another week or so.
Then, the paddles themsleves fractured by the pivots. I super glued them back together and added a reinforcement strip which worked well. They lasted for at least 2 weeks, until the paddles again fractured but now right where they depress the shift switches inside.
I tried the same repair technique, but due to the way the mechanism works you need some 'give', which i'd lost by reinforcing them.

Getting totally peed off with it, I decided to do the job properly and fitted a miniature micro switch directly behind each shift paddle. This has been working great for about 6 weeks now and the feel is better too, more accurate.

Apart from that, the analogue paddles on the wheel are nice for clutch and handbrake. I've never had a problem with the pedals (although I greased those up as soon as I had it) and the wheel is very rigid as it's mounted with roller bearings.

In all, a nice wheel let down by some badly designed, cheeply made shifters !

Sorry to go off topic

[EDIT]: Couldn't spell peddles .. i mean pedals !

Last edited by Decibel, Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:34.

You go for it Micky

Quote from Smax :

Unfortunately the bullet cam we were intending to use fell off the front of the Elise my mate failed to tape it to securely enough and went underneath it halfway around Donington. Needless to say it doesn't work very well any more.

It seems unlikely we can get another, so at this point the answer is probably not from us.

I have a suitable camera but no portable recording equipment. Is it of any use if I bring it along ?

Quote from tristancliffe :

... And you each get a cookie...

I'd just like to confirm something before I ask for my deposit back ...

Do the 2 person teams get 50% more cookies per driver than the 3 person teams ? Seems only fair to me

PS. Can't wait for 1st July

Quote from danowat :

yeah but no but yeah but no but yeah but no but

No .. please .. stop it .. i can't take any more .. my sides really really hurt :clapclap:

Nice one Niels

My missus is gonna kill me when she finds out what i'm going to HAVE to buy

Thanks for taking the time to post this bberger.
I've been looking for something that would do all this for ages.

Has anyone had any experience with a module like this ?


PS
If anyone is looking for example load cell / pressure sensors, this site has some good examples ....
http://www.rdpe.com/

Cheers.

That was it ! I had the tester crash on me once (because I restarted LFS while the tester was running) and hadn't rebooted. It was obvious in hindsight DOH illepall Thanks sdether.

The only thing that concerned me was that LFS started to stutter quite badly once the communication was working (the tester was pulling 99% cpu).

If you have a remedy for this or any suggestions, please let me know, otherwise i'm going to break out my VB installation and start playing

Thanks sdether.

I seem to be getting an error ...

"FullMotion.LiveForSpeed.OutGauge.OutGaugeReader: OutGaugeReader started
FullMotion.LiveForSpeed.AbstractLfsPacketReader: A Socket Exception has occurred!System.Net.Sockets.SocketException: Only one usage of each socket address (protocol/network address/port) is normally permitted
at System.Net.Sockets.Socket.Bind(EndPoint localEP)
at FullMotion.LiveForSpeed.AbstractLfsPacketReader.Listen()
FullMotion.LiveForSpeed.AbstractLfsPacketReader: Started Listener Thread on port 30003
Tester.LFSTesterForm: appender created"

I've set outgauge in the lfs.cgf to IP 127.0.0.1 on port 30003 and i've confirmed it's active using netstat -a.

I can usually persevere with this kind of stuff and get it working, but i'm stumped this time

Any help for a noob ?

I can get the tester app to work with Insim data, but I get nothing using the Outgauge form tester. Do I have to set anything in the LFS cfg.txt for outgauge, or is it handled through Insim (which I assumed) ?

If I need to edit the cfg.txt file, what are the settings ?

Thanks for taking the time

I know some of the skill in obtaining a fast lap/race is in the car setup, but it would be very interesting to have a server option whereby the RACE_S setup had to be used.

One for the future maybe ?
(if it's not already possible and i'm talking out my posterior)

Quote from t1ger :

I want to go to this event so much that I would (and can!) put another £30 in and have a team of 2.

If you're still willing to be teammates Tim, i'll gladly put the extra £30 in too, so at least we have another team position filled. If there is a sudden rush at the end, then we'll just revert back to a 3 person team.

Cheers.