Well, I just can't wait any longer, progression has come to a halt and graphics become seriously outdated by now, there's no reason anymore to develop this game any further, it just won't happen.
I came to reason and bought Assetto Corsa. Bye Bye LFS! had lot's of fun with it, but that was 7 years ago already! times pass.
LFS now has become some 'cruise' game for chaps with low-end PC's playing with their mouse and keyboard. Where did the real simulation go... I can't take it seriously anymore.
Developers won't be able to put more time and effort in this game, it's a waste of time and money by now, I won't blame them. They made a very interesting game, a decade ago, and it was fun
I came to reason and bought Assetto Corsa. Bye Bye LFS! had lot's of fun with it, but that was 7 years ago already! times pass.
LFS now has become some 'cruise' game for chaps with low-end PC's playing with their mouse and keyboard. Where did the real simulation go... I can't take it seriously anymore.
Developers won't be able to put more time and effort in this game, it's a waste of time and money by now, I won't blame them. They made a very interesting game, a decade ago, and it was fun
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Ah damn this could be mayhem with all those LFS'ers out there, I'd like to join but I find myself financially incapable of doing this ATM 
So put me on the drop-out list if u like, if my situation changes I will inform you on this.
In the likely case I won't make it, Happy Karting to you all who will
So put me on the drop-out list if u like, if my situation changes I will inform you on this.
In the likely case I won't make it, Happy Karting to you all who will
It's also the case that default 1024x1024 background is not being used to full extend. It's kind of cropped which makes it even worse in quality.
You could just make some ingame screenshots at 2048x1568 and crop it down to 1568x1568 to get the correct aspect ratio in menu's and gives very decent quality. And don't forget to take screens with AA and AF set to the max
Good luck
You could just make some ingame screenshots at 2048x1568 and crop it down to 1568x1568 to get the correct aspect ratio in menu's and gives very decent quality. And don't forget to take screens with AA and AF set to the max
Good luck
You don't have matte cars, the reflection setting is just way too for the modified reflectionmaps you obviously use. I got exactly the same problem but it's easy to solve.
Open up cfg.txt and edit the "Car Shine" value to your needs.
I have it set to 0.50 at the moment which is still a bit matte but I like that more natural look.
Just fiddle around with it and everything will look perfectly fine.
The same likely happens to people with too high reflection, they can't see the dash properly and brag about it all the time. Just change the settings mate.
Open up cfg.txt and edit the "Car Shine" value to your needs.
I have it set to 0.50 at the moment which is still a bit matte but I like that more natural look.
Just fiddle around with it and everything will look perfectly fine.
The same likely happens to people with too high reflection, they can't see the dash properly and brag about it all the time. Just change the settings mate.
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Sure, the one with the GTR cars ingame (Should be placed into data/pic folder)
http://home.wanadoo.nl/stefankoopmans/LFS/LOGO/NGrignon.rar
S2Beta desktop 4800x3000 (16:10)
http://home.wanadoo.nl/stefank ... /LOGO/S2BETA4800x3000.rar
S2Beta desktop 1600x1200 (4:3)
http://home.wanadoo.nl/stefank ... /LOGO/S2BETA1600x1200.jpg
of course all just made for the fun of it.
wow this seems interesting, funny to see how this thread fills like a bitch while my soundpack seems totally neglected. Anyway, i'll check these out for sure. Maybe we should team up together :P
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hmzz, they seem a bit low on quality though, and they tend to annoy me. I think it has no connection with the car or something, like you hear a sound that has nothing to do with the car you actually drive.
But anyway, improving or changing sound is something really fun to do! So keep fiddling around!
We actually need some high-grade mic and record these sounds ourselves with the mic connected to the car itself. It's wrong to record sounds from a standing position while the car moves around that person. But I know how hard it is to find something decent on the internet. I don't blame you for using these youtube sounds, it seemed like a pretty good idea. What seems quite hard is to get rid of the engine sound. We should use an elektric car that's doing some long steady drifts.
I also use sound in a different way in LFS, since i got a very decent self-build soundsystem i balanced everything differently and made things much less loud so there is more room for dynamics. In my opinion sound may not ever collapse on it's own weight so to speak. keeping control of situations where lot's of sound needs to be mixed. It's not only your own car you hear. But the problem is almost no-one likes sound this way. People really like distortion and overpowered speakers with bass turned to the max. You hear it all the time everywhere. Seems like most ears are so damaged already they can't hear the difference anymore. If you want loud sound, get a decent AMP which can deliver enough power. Someone ever tested LFS on a tube-amplifier? Could be that natural distortion of tubes can make LFS sound really nice. But anyway im going too far again, i need to accept it's not a thing the majority of people would use on their PC's, so definitely the over-exaggerated sound is what most are after.
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hmzz, they seem a bit low on quality though, and they tend to annoy me. I think it has no connection with the car or something, like you hear a sound that has nothing to do with the car you actually drive.
But anyway, improving or changing sound is something really fun to do! So keep fiddling around!
We actually need some high-grade mic and record these sounds ourselves with the mic connected to the car itself. It's wrong to record sounds from a standing position while the car moves around that person. But I know how hard it is to find something decent on the internet. I don't blame you for using these youtube sounds, it seemed like a pretty good idea. What seems quite hard is to get rid of the engine sound. We should use an elektric car that's doing some long steady drifts.
I also use sound in a different way in LFS, since i got a very decent self-build soundsystem i balanced everything differently and made things much less loud so there is more room for dynamics. In my opinion sound may not ever collapse on it's own weight so to speak. keeping control of situations where lot's of sound needs to be mixed. It's not only your own car you hear. But the problem is almost no-one likes sound this way. People really like distortion and overpowered speakers with bass turned to the max. You hear it all the time everywhere. Seems like most ears are so damaged already they can't hear the difference anymore. If you want loud sound, get a decent AMP which can deliver enough power. Someone ever tested LFS on a tube-amplifier? Could be that natural distortion of tubes can make LFS sound really nice. But anyway im going too far again, i need to accept it's not a thing the majority of people would use on their PC's, so definitely the over-exaggerated sound is what most are after.
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Hmzz Trust, a brand you should avoid at any time 
Ah yes that's what's should happen indeed, thats because they are made for 5:4 instead of your 4:3 res.
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1440x900 = 16:10
I know this is pretty lame, maybe scawen can adjust the way the backgrounds are made to fit onto the screen sometime in the future. It's a bit hard to make it look good for every aspect ratio, that's why i made backdrops that fit in 4:3 and 16:10 without making it look totally weird and off-set. Guess we have to live with it the way it is. That garage backdrop is impossible to fit on every aspectratio. Shame i guess.
Problem is not many ppl have 5:4 displays. Only 1280x1024 LCD's are, the majority quite likely uses 4:3 and 16:10 so to many ppl these backdrops from Lynce wont fit correctly
Thats a bit weird, native is 5:4, the rest at 4:3? Guess you use an LCD screen with native 1280x1024? Never had such a screen, can be perfectly normal though. What about 1280x960 then? The only thing that changes the position of the backgrounds are different aspect ratios, like your 5:4, 4:3 and 16:9 and 16:10 all are positioned differently. Higher or lower resolutions do not matter at all, images will just be resized. (that's my experience anyway) So 800x600 will look the same as 1024x768, or 1600x1200 because they are all 4:3.
Don't the images automatically resize to fit? that means it does not matter at all, just try them out i'd say. I don't think it's a real problem to have higher res images displayed on 1024x768, or are you just seeing a little portion of the whole image. (which is actually the case anytime no matter what resolution you use). But since TS calibrated them at 5:4 they could be a bit off-set on 4:3 resolutions. So maybe the request to support 4:3 would be the thing you want.
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Like i said, no 1680x1050 resolution, that would be 1680x1680 backdrops.
Anyway heres some 1536x1536 backdrops @ 1680x1050, dont know why I can't get them in correct aspect like TS did without 1:1 images.
oh yeah and don't mind the colours, i just like orange, grey and consistency
Anyway heres some 1536x1536 backdrops @ 1680x1050, dont know why I can't get them in correct aspect like TS did without 1:1 images.
oh yeah and don't mind the colours, i just like orange, grey and consistency
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When i fiddled with backdrops myself it seemed you need square images, otherwise they get out of aspect (does not matter which aspect your screen has, i tried it on 4:3 and 16:10 displays). Has this changed? Or did I miss something...
I now use backdrops of 1536x1536 because of this (made from 2048x1536 screenshots)
It's pretty weird to see 5:4 aspect ratio backdrops here.
And I also do not get it why to use "only" 1280x1024 backdrops, they should be as high as possible no? (i'm taking this back, since it says that because YOU have made backdrops for that resolution only, not that we are not allowd to make anything diff, sorry for that :schwitz
Also take in mind the backdrops are positioned slightly different when other aspect ratios are used. Another reason why i won't make such a garage backdrop with shade etc. In most cases it will look silly, but in your case it's kind of pretty although not my taste. It's a bit like NFS Underground if you ask me.
Anywayz, they are not bad at all. Like to see artsy stuff going on. Keep up the good work
I now use backdrops of 1536x1536 because of this (made from 2048x1536 screenshots)
It's pretty weird to see 5:4 aspect ratio backdrops here.
And I also do not get it why to use "only" 1280x1024 backdrops, they should be as high as possible no? (i'm taking this back, since it says that because YOU have made backdrops for that resolution only, not that we are not allowd to make anything diff, sorry for that :schwitz
Also take in mind the backdrops are positioned slightly different when other aspect ratios are used. Another reason why i won't make such a garage backdrop with shade etc. In most cases it will look silly, but in your case it's kind of pretty although not my taste. It's a bit like NFS Underground if you ask me.
Anywayz, they are not bad at all. Like to see artsy stuff going on. Keep up the good work
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Yeah i like the elektric cars! I'm all about elektrics and it's the thing of the future anyway, silent cars are nice. Lately they really proved what they are up to. But elektric cars are not totally silent, you still hear the higher pitched elektric sound which i find absolutely stunning. Better start to get used to them as soon as you can. Futoristic stuff like that reminds me a bit of Back to the future II, i'm waiting for stuff like that to happen all the time 
I also read something about the batteries being completely recycable without doing harm to the environment. I know lot's of ppl complaining about every aspect being worse then having petrol engined cars, but the recent stuff I read taught me the whole thing being not that bad at all, it's just simply brilliant.
The aspect of racing is not everything about hearing your engine scream, having a lightweight monster with lineair torque seems awesome to drive to me.
But if such a car should be in LFS i don't know. An elektric RAC does not seem like a very good idea to me, although i like the shape of that car very much. The Elektric Ariel Atom could be more fun i guess (Wrightspeed X1 i guess it's called). That would be just something totally different for a change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVV9azx4OBA
or what about the Tesla Roadster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... 10jTk&feature=related
I also read something about the batteries being completely recycable without doing harm to the environment. I know lot's of ppl complaining about every aspect being worse then having petrol engined cars, but the recent stuff I read taught me the whole thing being not that bad at all, it's just simply brilliant.
The aspect of racing is not everything about hearing your engine scream, having a lightweight monster with lineair torque seems awesome to drive to me.
But if such a car should be in LFS i don't know. An elektric RAC does not seem like a very good idea to me, although i like the shape of that car very much. The Elektric Ariel Atom could be more fun i guess (Wrightspeed X1 i guess it's called). That would be just something totally different for a change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVV9azx4OBA
or what about the Tesla Roadster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v ... 10jTk&feature=related
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But the shiftlight does not go on at the rev-limiter, but at the suggested shiftpoint. Also depends on gear ratios which means the pitch of the engine sound (rpm) varies. Every car's pitch is different. So i don't think that will sound anything decent. You need to match the frequency to that of the engine at rev-limiter otherwise it will sound horribly dislocated. Can't see this happening any time soon. The only right way is to implement it into the game, but i don't think that's very likely to happen.
So get over it and stop this ever lasting limiter requests
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Nice to know the wheel acts more liniair just above 100% and damper/spring are not needed at all. Did not know that. Not that i dislike it with everything on default 100%, is seems perfectly fine and i also feel the rumblestrips. (I use ingame force between 20/50%)
But with my older logitech Formula Force (the first logitech FF wheel ever) the linear motor was not responsive enough to really feel the rumblestrips. Also slack (which most cheaper FF wheels have) on the internal gears can reduce the effect.
But with my older logitech Formula Force (the first logitech FF wheel ever) the linear motor was not responsive enough to really feel the rumblestrips. Also slack (which most cheaper FF wheels have) on the internal gears can reduce the effect.
No way you get bang bang sounds out of the Shift-A menu. For as far as i know there is no trigger for anything related to backfire. The shift-A menu consists of very short samples unable to reproduce a backfire sound in any way. Apart from some longer samples like the gearshift they all need to be a very short wave-signals which are used as a feed to make the synthisizer create dynamic engine/gearwine/intake/blowoff etc. sounds.
It's never designed to play real samples like what you want.
The only thing any good to allow the use of backfire sounds is CarSoundRemixer. It's able to produce two different backfire sounds randomly on downshifts. Every car has it's own specific audio sets which are totally customizable with own samples.
While not everyone likes CSR for it's enginesounds (because it's less dynamic since it's not synthisized) it still can be useful for other things like brake squeal, fuel warning, rev-limiter(pit), roadnoise, turbo, blow-off valve and backfire.
Specific sounds can be turned on or of for every car (except FBM, in time of CSR the car did not exist so no support for that one) so it allows you to fiddle all day long and have things exactly the way you want. I love it for that, but sometimes CSR can be a little distracting, especially when racing on the limits all this extra crap does not make you go any faster. Sometimes it can be really fun though and I can spend hours tweaking it but that's because i'm an audio freak
Here's a little sample I made recently for another thread about skid-sound.
http://home.wanadoo.nl/stefank ... s/LFS/AUDIO/SOUND+CSR.mp3
This is how the XRR can sound with CSR. It does not have a banging backfire in this case, but if you hear closely, it rumbles little pop-sounds on releasing the throttle at high RPM's.
I once had the LX6 make nice recoil bangs (dunno how to say that), where on downshifting a few milliseconds later you hear BANG!
It's never designed to play real samples like what you want.
The only thing any good to allow the use of backfire sounds is CarSoundRemixer. It's able to produce two different backfire sounds randomly on downshifts. Every car has it's own specific audio sets which are totally customizable with own samples.
While not everyone likes CSR for it's enginesounds (because it's less dynamic since it's not synthisized) it still can be useful for other things like brake squeal, fuel warning, rev-limiter(pit), roadnoise, turbo, blow-off valve and backfire.
Specific sounds can be turned on or of for every car (except FBM, in time of CSR the car did not exist so no support for that one) so it allows you to fiddle all day long and have things exactly the way you want. I love it for that, but sometimes CSR can be a little distracting, especially when racing on the limits all this extra crap does not make you go any faster. Sometimes it can be really fun though and I can spend hours tweaking it but that's because i'm an audio freak
Here's a little sample I made recently for another thread about skid-sound.
http://home.wanadoo.nl/stefank ... s/LFS/AUDIO/SOUND+CSR.mp3
This is how the XRR can sound with CSR. It does not have a banging backfire in this case, but if you hear closely, it rumbles little pop-sounds on releasing the throttle at high RPM's.
I once had the LX6 make nice recoil bangs (dunno how to say that), where on downshifting a few milliseconds later you hear BANG!
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Oh my god this thread can't be happening Wake me from this horrible nightmare
Wake me from this horrible nightmareSeems all a bit OT to me, this is the custom "Weal" thread u know
But anyway, if you're curious about Y30, or even any test patch, you can always duplicate your LFS install and check it out without doing any harm to your current LFS install. I definitely can't wait to test new stuff so I do it all the time. It can also come in quite handy, bacause you know what's going to change in the official upcoming patch and it gives you some time to figure out new optimal settings and to get used to new physics for example. The last thing to worry about is experiencing bugs. It won't damage your computer if that's what's keeping you from testing these patches. (some ppl got weird fobia's I think)
But if you're far from a pc expert and already start sweating about copying files or do not even know where the LFS install is located it's probably not a very good idea
If you want to know what's going to change in Z it seems obvious to check out the TEST-patch thread and to carefully read the start post. http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=44916
But anyway, if you're curious about Y30, or even any test patch, you can always duplicate your LFS install and check it out without doing any harm to your current LFS install. I definitely can't wait to test new stuff so I do it all the time. It can also come in quite handy, bacause you know what's going to change in the official upcoming patch and it gives you some time to figure out new optimal settings and to get used to new physics for example. The last thing to worry about is experiencing bugs. It won't damage your computer if that's what's keeping you from testing these patches. (some ppl got weird fobia's I think)
But if you're far from a pc expert and already start sweating about copying files or do not even know where the LFS install is located it's probably not a very good idea
If you want to know what's going to change in Z it seems obvious to check out the TEST-patch thread and to carefully read the start post. http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=44916
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You are looking for GWroad1.dds It's not only used for Aston i guess.
Hehehe funny stuff about the jeeps rofl 
I don't like opels either, but thats a very nice job on the interior. I do like the beige coloured one, your right about the details being more vivid. Seems like a real car for a change.
I don't like opels either, but thats a very nice job on the interior. I do like the beige coloured one, your right about the details being more vivid. Seems like a real car for a change.
I don't know if Prime95 did stress the ram, been too long. But i got Orthos Prime which seems very well suited to test your ram+cpu
http://home.wanadoo.nl/stefank ... /FILES/Orthos%20Prime.rar
Also, could you try to rip that Creative soundcard out just to test if it helps? I did have some experiences like you caused by an X-Fi card which gave up the ghost after months working fine.
I'm so glad i have replaced the crappy thing with an ESI Juli@
http://home.wanadoo.nl/stefank ... /FILES/Orthos%20Prime.rar
Also, could you try to rip that Creative soundcard out just to test if it helps? I did have some experiences like you caused by an X-Fi card which gave up the ghost after months working fine.
I'm so glad i have replaced the crappy thing with an ESI Juli@
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Hehehe yeah nice one, It's because I inserted a round object in the middle of the wheel, suddenly screws are very clearly off-center. I tend to tweak the levels too all the time but it seems fine the way it is imho.
But now lets have some sleep first, its past 3AM already
. First thing tomorrow let's resemble my Bride wheel just for the fun of it Cheap-ass thing btw needs replacement, stitching already is coming loose around the thumb-parts but i dislike the original Logitech wheel, it's rocksolid and too thin. If someone ever manages to break that wheel (don't know what, maybe buttons go numb and leather falls off :shrug
I got two perfectly new wheels to give away. Who knows, might make someone very happy one day. I think of replacing the bride one with a foam wheel like those in GTR cars. I like the firm grip on those.
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nice stitching
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Dit you also see that the six torx screws around the center are not positioned exactly in the middle? Add two guides at 50% horizontal/vertical. I did center them, but i would like to know if the map is also positioned off-center around the 3d model. In that case i made it worse :P
Your game also looks more bright then mine... too bright from my perspective but thats quite irrelevant.. just curious
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I don't understand why someone possible want to drift with a mouse (or even just racing)
Drifting is all about feel, controlling your slide with the throttle. Having a wheel in your hands feels so damn good. I can't feel any form of connection to the car when using a mouse. What's fun about that? See it the other way around, why would I drive a real car with a mouse for gods sake... it would feel like ice and is freaking scary dude. Please tell me why??
Don't say it's about the money... grrr
Drifting is all about feel, controlling your slide with the throttle. Having a wheel in your hands feels so damn good. I can't feel any form of connection to the car when using a mouse. What's fun about that? See it the other way around, why would I drive a real car with a mouse for gods sake... it would feel like ice and is freaking scary dude. Please tell me why??
Don't say it's about the money... grrr
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