I know it's just a simple attempt to showcase the whole idea of 3rd party content... but that radiator intake is absurdly big. :0
Is there a reason you don't upload to soundcloud, beatport or some other site like that? I have no idea what you do, but I'm inclined to give it a listen. But downloading an .mp3 is too sketchy for me. :/
on topic:
That's wild, especially for digital services! So does the 24$US price tag include tax or not? Because if it does, that seams reasonable to me. I think regional price differences are supposed to account for economic imbalance, but not to offset political rulings. :/
I don't think anything is planned in that regard, but I agree it's one of the next big projects that LFS devs should focus on. From what I heard VR support is pretty much unrivaled among driving sims, but so much immersion is lost due to the underwhelming soundscape.
Hej hej, I like where this is going! 
I like the fact that you are opting for a peaky N/A screamer with smooth torque and power development through the rev range. Seems to make a lot more sense for a light, compact MR chassis. Also digging the roof scoop BTW!
Regarding the front, I attached an image showing a few things that I had in mind then and now. I hope it's understandable what my mesh-like sketching is trying to illustrate. I think the original design has its headlights as far inside the front/fender area as possible, so it wouldn't make sense to move them, from my understanding. My suggestion was merely a sort of cover or fairing, obviously transparent, to take the edge off, aerodynamically speaking.
However for the brake ducts, you probably want the opposite. Trying to blend an air intake into the shape of the body work creates much more turbulent airflow, than if you have that intake properly stick out. A good example are sub-sonic warbirds: Take a look at german WWII aircraft engine intakes, or the P-51 Mustang's under-belly radiator scoop. I guess for the Raceabout you could leave the stock design and simply take out the lower headlight units to use the remaining pipe shape. The one I drew up would be an alternative, somewhat hybrid version.
Lastly, and I really don't know enough about racecar aero to judge whether it'd be warranted, but anyways I increased the area of the canards. More importantly, the leading edge doesn't fade into them, instead it's perpendicular to the airflow, which is always the most efficient solution for sub-sonic airflow and a given surface area. Efficiency could be further increased with a "fence" on the outer edge, but that might hit polygon count too hard for something that is, for the game's purposes, just a cosmetic detail.
So there you go, more nitpicky fussing about from me.
I like the fact that you are opting for a peaky N/A screamer with smooth torque and power development through the rev range. Seems to make a lot more sense for a light, compact MR chassis. Also digging the roof scoop BTW! Regarding the front, I attached an image showing a few things that I had in mind then and now. I hope it's understandable what my mesh-like sketching is trying to illustrate. I think the original design has its headlights as far inside the front/fender area as possible, so it wouldn't make sense to move them, from my understanding. My suggestion was merely a sort of cover or fairing, obviously transparent, to take the edge off, aerodynamically speaking.
However for the brake ducts, you probably want the opposite. Trying to blend an air intake into the shape of the body work creates much more turbulent airflow, than if you have that intake properly stick out. A good example are sub-sonic warbirds: Take a look at german WWII aircraft engine intakes, or the P-51 Mustang's under-belly radiator scoop. I guess for the Raceabout you could leave the stock design and simply take out the lower headlight units to use the remaining pipe shape. The one I drew up would be an alternative, somewhat hybrid version.
Lastly, and I really don't know enough about racecar aero to judge whether it'd be warranted, but anyways I increased the area of the canards. More importantly, the leading edge doesn't fade into them, instead it's perpendicular to the airflow, which is always the most efficient solution for sub-sonic airflow and a given surface area. Efficiency could be further increased with a "fence" on the outer edge, but that might hit polygon count too hard for something that is, for the game's purposes, just a cosmetic detail.
So there you go, more nitpicky fussing about from me.
That lighting situation doesn't make sense. Maybe it's a custom skybox texture that doesn't match with the sun's position, or maybe it's an image you edited into there before blurring it all?
Is the car's 3D model your own work?
Skins are being made, and a few of them are pretty good quality IMO. But I think calling it a community might be a little far fetched.
You'll still have to download skins individually, nothing's changed. Although my guess is (pure speculation alert) that it will have to, when vehicle mods support drops.
I was thinking about something like a bullet-shaped piece of (acrylic) glass in front of the headlight bulbs. Maybe the same for those smaller lamps too, because while the brake cooling duct intakes are a quirky idea, the shark mouth intake already seems fairly large for a mid-engined car, especially without the stock version's fog lights.
I don't see why that should be a priority. After all the existing GTRs have fairly different skins from their road going versions as well.
A roof scoop sounds reasonable for any mid-engined race car. After all, form follows function. It doesn't have to be big (for reference check out the various designs used for Honda NSX GT500 cars over the years), but it does provide fresh air rather than the side intakes, which are usually feeding into radiators and might pick up brake dust etc., too.
Quick question: Does the enclosed roof fit? I mean does it leave enough room for a driver with helmet? I was wondering if your roof section needs a GT40 sort of bulge, or maybe it could be more rounded as a whole?
That was just to illustrate my suggestion understandably, rather than drawing it "in the air" with the other parts. BTW you should also think about covering up the headlights, as these massive, blunt cylindrical shapes would probably mess up the airflow over the wheel arches.
I attached an image with some aero improvements. To make use of the ground effect, you already have floor paneling (I assume), a splitter, skirts and a diffuser. However you also need to deal with the air pressure buildup in the wheel houses. So that's where these vents and spoilers come into play, which I carefully illustrated in meticulous detail. :-)
Or limit them to R3s or just R4s. How would you even go about getting accurate data for how grippy 70s slick tyre compounds were?
And yeah, the even older, grooved tyres could be approximated by using the road or hybrid compounds. But ultimately we need the new tyre physics to include some old cross plied tyres.
And yeah, the even older, grooved tyres could be approximated by using the road or hybrid compounds. But ultimately we need the new tyre physics to include some old cross plied tyres.
Yes, the XR GT exterior resembles a Mitsubishi Starion. I have that same skin, it's at least 12 years old. If anyone has the original XRG and XRT kits by squale, could you please post them here? squale uploaded them to imageshack, so they're gone now...
Sounds fun to drive indeed! But it would be rare to have decent races in them. I mean the FO8 is mostly collecting dust or being wrecked anyways, and that isn't half as mad as what you describe.
If we're talking V8 wishlist sensibly, something like "V8 Supercars" seems ideal to me. I cannot stress enough how badly LFS needs proper touring cars.
Regarding GTs I'd rather they leave the XRR as is (except give it higher RPMs) and introduce a 360 Modena type of car instead.
And yeah, I'm all for 50s/60s GP cars with no aero and period-correct shitty tyre compounds. Small displacement V8s and V12s would allow for close racing while producing filthy old sounds.
Are you saying the cars can currently be tweaked to have 16 cylinder engines? Whenever I used to meddle with tweaks, they only allowed for up to 12.
How would you even do that? (let alone "easily")
That's super impressive for a first skin, very clean work! Do you have a "clean" version without all the fake Porsche stuff?
Could it be a calibration issue? When driving there should be a bunch of lightly coloured bars at the bottom right, that correspond to your control input for throttle, brakes, clutch and parking brakes respectively, if memory serves me right. At 100% there's a white line showing at the top of that bar. So go and check whether the green (?) bar is maxed out while fully pressing the accelerator pedal.
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I think most cars were added 15+ years ago, which was back when they just went with it.
The later additions had to do with financial backing and/or promo. Obviously the business details elude me.
AFAIK the 2006 BMW Sauber F1 car was part of a deal with Intel. The Formula BMW came in association with the V1 Championship. And the infamous VW Scirocco (not yet released) was used for a competition at Games Convention in 2008. The MRT5 and Raceabout 06 are the results of university projects from Canada and Finland respectively. I'd be interested to hear from ErViSca how that came to be.
Storytime with devs when?
The later additions had to do with financial backing and/or promo. Obviously the business details elude me.
AFAIK the 2006 BMW Sauber F1 car was part of a deal with Intel. The Formula BMW came in association with the V1 Championship. And the infamous VW Scirocco (not yet released) was used for a competition at Games Convention in 2008. The MRT5 and Raceabout 06 are the results of university projects from Canada and Finland respectively. I'd be interested to hear from ErViSca how that came to be.
Storytime with devs when?
Super cool! Honestly deserves its own thread: "LFS Artwork"
I'm not sure on the specifics, but from what I've heard about vehicle insurance policies in the UK, an early 90s mini hatchback with 115 hp will cost you a small fortune to run. Nevermind the fact that they'd be pretty rare finds these days.
LFS is an old game featuring even older cars. My advice would be to look for something more recent. Something like a Suziki Swift from the mid-naughties I guess.
LFS is an old game featuring even older cars. My advice would be to look for something more recent. Something like a Suziki Swift from the mid-naughties I guess.
Churning out consitently high-quality skins, great work!
Excellent work on the sponsor logos! Unfortunately that brushed metal effect causes some rough breaks. And the part underneath that red line seems to be black. Oh and the base colour should be a touch closer to blue I think. 
But I'm just nit-picking at this point, quality stuff! 
But I'm just nit-picking at this point, quality stuff! This thread is for posting finished skins. If you have a request, please post it here: https://www.lfs.net/forum/70-Skin-requests
That said, skin requests from a Demo license account will only be considered for Demo cars.
All of this has been discussed a thousand times elsewhere on the forum, and is pretty much off topic at this point.
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