Quote from evilpimp :

I just find it funny how you call everyone a Hamilton fanboy when you clearly dont seem to see your mad obsession for Ferrari and your incredible hate for Hamilton (After that comment probably because your racist.)

That's the easiest to come up with...

Oh come one. Chocolate boy is very mild expression of anything. If you can call people ugly because they have big noses you can defenately call Louis chocolate boy because he looks like he's made of chocolate. In fact, he is made of chocolate, that's the reason he went off in T1 last time. His foot melted. just look at Buttocks. Poor fellow is made of cheap white chocolate which makes him crack so easily. Just tiny bit of pressure and he's in pieces...

And that was because brits make so bad chocolate. Especially McLaren. The french at least make their drivers out of cheese (Ovilier Pamis) or the german who are made of swastikas and roasted lederhosens.

I know, harharhar

i actually find it funny calling someone chocolate dude

then boom i see zillion negative posts that my friend is racist
take it easy guys, I'm sure he didn't mean anything wrong and God forbid something racist...

yeah all stop hatings lolz

(wtf)

Example 1: Hamilton is a stupid, fat, ugly, smug, cocky, disgusting, untalented, incest bastard who should quit F1 and go hang himself.
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Example 2: Probably Kimi will do the same that the chocolate dude did in Japan.
Reaction on this forum: Omg, wtf, what a racist dickhead c**t!!!!


This seeing racism in every single word or action has got absolutely ridicilous.

Quote from Kalev EST :

Example 1: Hamilton is a stupid, fat, ugly, smug, cocky, disgusting, untalented, incest bastard who should quit F1 and go hang himself.
Reaction on this forum:

Example 2: Probably Kimi will do the same that the chocolate dude did in Japan.
Reaction on this forum: Omg, wtf, what a racist dickhead c**t!!!!


This seeing racism in every single word or action has got absolutely ridicilous.

the difference is that you can insult everyone with the first example, be they from estonia, finland, brazil, mars or the planet zarg but the second remark could be percieved as being based on the fact that hamilton's skin is a different colour to toki's skin.

i'm not saying toki meant it that way and even if he did, it probably doesnt reflect his true personality but one of the benefits of the internet is that allows people to cross international and cultural boundries and anything that appears to be divisive on a racial level has no place on it.

SO WHAT?!
People make racist jokes on TV and in theaters all the time and everyone laughs at it. In holland we have a comedian who attracts people of every colour and makes jokes about all of them. They all laugh because they are ridiculed for the colour of their skin and the cultural habits that come along.
Here someone makes a comparison between the colour of chocolate and Hamilton's skin colour - so what? Why would he be racist? What would be the thought behind it? That Hamilton is lame because he's black? If that's what you the reader thinks, maybe have a look at yourself first and wonder why that was the first thing that came up in your head?

Now enough with the distractions and pick up the original topic again.

My black girlfriend wouldn't find 'Chocolate dude' offensive, so why should (I assume, all of you white people) find it offensive? like Töki said, it's just easy for you to call him a racist, seriously. The first person/people to mention racism are therefore racist themselves as they are pointing out the differences of peoples races. Lewis' skin colour IS that of chocolate, how can you argue with the truth? I'm white, white as a sheet, as white as ham when it goes all off and mouldy. As my girlfriend says "Deal." Which means deal with it. Sorry to bring it up again, but i thought i had to enter the debate from a first hand point of view.

Quote from Victor :

Now enough with the distractions and pick up the original topic again.

^^

On topic: Massa will hit Räikkönen in T1, Hamilton will pull away and win.

Quote from Victor :

SO WHAT?!
People make racist jokes on TV and in theaters all the time and everyone laughs at it. In holland we have a comedian who attracts people of every colour and makes jokes about all of them. They all laugh because they are ridiculed for the colour of their skin and the cultural habits that come along.
Here someone makes a comparison between the colour of chocolate and Hamilton's skin colour - so what? Why would he be racist? What would be the thought behind it? That Hamilton is lame because he's black? If that's what you the reader thinks, maybe have a look at yourself first and wonder why that was the first thing that came up in your head?

Now enough with the distractions and pick up the original topic again.

you surprise me there.

i honestly thought you would stamp on any racist, bad taste or insulting thread or comment.

but i guess now we all have free reign to say whatever we wish, something ive not seen on other forums

apologies for that..................shouldnt type when hot headed!

Quote from mr grady :

you surprise me there.

i honestly thought you would stamp on any racist, bad taste or insulting thread or comment.

but i guess now we all have free reign to say whatever we wish, something ive not seen on other forums.

in which case i shall begin.

i think massa is nothing but a brazilian c*nt and ferrari are a bunch of cheating italian m*therf*ckers.

Quoted for preservation. Way to sidestep Victor's point.

Quote from mr grady :

i think massa is nothing but a brazilian c*nt and ferrari are a bunch of cheating italian m*therf*ckers.

Then you are a not a racist if you are trying to be one. Race is taught in schools as the difference of someones skin colour, if not that, it's ethnicity and in UK schools they don't include nationalities unless you are mixed, or living in a country foreign to your original nationality. Nobody can be offended by being called "AN ITALIAN IDIOT" more than they can be offended by being called "AN IDIOT".

Chocolate tastes good. And to think of it... Chocolate is a good thing so I guess replacing " black dude " with " chocolate dude " isn't the bad part. But saying something like he's gunna do just like the black guy sounds a little out of place...

It's different when its a comedian for some reason though.. Dunno why its just that you CAN'T take a comedian seriously. While someone you've never seen before can easily be taken seriously for everything he says.

P.S : I'm not black or white.

On topic : I think T1 will be the most interusting part of the race (lap 1.) I bet there will be a crash in the front of the pack and its gunna end up being a disaster. The first red flag in a lot of time is gunna come out. A bad injury will come out of the crash. What a surprise it is Hamilton running over kimi.

I'm not so worried about the chocolate thing either, think there's an over sensitivity to possible racist comments when there is really nothing behind it or something else is meant.

I'm more bothered about his ridiculous assumptions that all people from the UK are blind Hamilton fan boys. Like others have said and I have said it's not about defending or being a Hamilton fan, but more being totally sick of the constant negativity that always coming from certain people, without fail.

For every Hamilton fan boy there are 5 anti-fan boys who are just as blinded and the topic is lost.

Quote from mr grady :

i think massa is nothing but a brazilian c*nt and ferrari are a bunch of cheating italian m*therf*ckers.

So you think "brazilian" and "italian" are the insults? I wonder who is racist here.

Those are actually facts, FYI. Massa IS Brazilian and Ferrari IS Italian.

Quote from zeugnimod :

So you think "brazilian" and "italian" are the insults? I wonder who is racist here.

Those are actually facts, FYI. Massa IS Brazilian and Ferrari IS Italian.

And black people ARE black. The moment you accept it, the easier your life becomes, if you keep tip-toeing around you cause more problems.

Quote from BlueFlame :

And black people ARE black. The moment you accept it, the easier your life becomes, if you keep tip-toeing around you cause more problems.

The racist part isn't that he compared chocolate to him but rather that he says that Kimi will make the same mistake as the black man did... Couldnt he have just said as Hamilton did...

Quote from evilpimp :

The racist part isn't that he compared chocolate to him but rather that he says that Kimi will make the same mistake as the black man did... Couldnt he have just said as Hamilton did...

Well, it just seems more "racist" because Hamilton is the only black guy in the grid, but with that in mind it can only be a compliment to Hamilton's achievements. It's not just black people and white people, there is actually still, even today, a huge difference in the general culture of the two races.

Quote from BlueFlame :

Well, it just seems more "racist" because Hamilton is the only black guy in the grid, but with that in mind it can only be a compliment to Hamilton's achievements. It's not just black people and white people, there is actually still, even today, a huge difference in the general culture of the two races.

Maybe were you live. Around here it depends. There is in some cases but in some you see NO difference at all apart from skin color. (listen to same music, dress the same, act the same, etc.)

Now, back to the topic of the Shanghai GP.

Am I the only one who thinks T1 of the Chinese GP looks a lot like T1 of AS Nat (exept that AS Nat doesnt have another tight right hander after it?)

Quote from evilpimp :

Maybe were you live. Around here it depends. There is in some cases but in some you see NO difference at all apart from skin color. (listen to same music, dress the same, act the same, etc.)

Now, back to the topic of the Shanghai GP.

Am I the only one who thinks T1 of the Chinese GP looks a lot like T1 of AS Nat (exept that AS Nat doesnt have another tight right hander after it?)

Like all corners, it changes direction. There's only so much variety you can put into a turn in the road...

Lol. Maybe the size of the turn, the width, the speed at which you take it, the way you enter it... A hairpin and a corner like that are completly different. O_O

Btw, Heidfeld gets grid penalty for impeding Coulthard. Neither was on a hotlap at the time:
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news ... dfeld-given-grid-penalty/

can i apologise for my outburst.
i realise now it was wrong to put what i did.

personally i feel that if you cant or wont say something to a persons (hamiltons) face, then you shouldnt post it on a forum.

would you call him "chocolate" to his face?

i doubt it, call him crap, useless maybe..............whatever you think of his DRIVING, not a cheap racest comment.

but i do stand by what i said about the guy said it first..and i would call him what i did to his face for it.

i am fed up with the constant digs at hamilton, by a certain person

i just got angry and annoyed by the fact it semed to be acceptable here to do such a thing..hence my deleted part, which was just an outburtst, nothing more.

if what i posted upset any one then i am sorry.

Quote from NotAnIllusion :

Btw, Heidfeld gets grid penalty for impeding Coulthard. Neither was on a hotlap at the time:
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news ... dfeld-given-grid-penalty/

Out of interest ... does anyone know how long after qualifying finished was that penalty announced?

Quote from OldBloke :

Out of interest ... does anyone know how long after qualifying finished was that penalty announced?

"The stewards took more than three hours to decide that Heidfeld had been guilty, and the penalty moves the German down to ninth on the grid."
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71548