Quote from three_jump :

Don't bet on anything other than they probably found a way to cut cost / get more value (or similar) for their money.

Anything else is highly speculative and is a waste of time.

You post is as much speculation as any other because we don't know the reason.

It could be that the start is S3 is close and they want to make sure they have the bandwidth requirements covered that the large spike in interest will cause.

See as you can see, your reason is as much speculation as any other lol

Just watched "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang".

Very out there film but a great watch

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0373469/

Quote from Gimpster :

I personally have not touched LFS in some time due to the distribution of LFS racers. Since I am not a fan of Drift, Cruise, Drag, or open wheel I am often left with few to race with.

Same, waiting for the S3 inital content release and new physics before I pic it up again. Until then L4D2 and TF2

Can't see the issue. Sounds like the game was being sold before release.

Steam games have this sort of limitation as well, except they allow preload so you can pull down all the data before hand.

You realise that DOF is an an effect introduced by the limitation of camera optics based on focal length and apature settings.

You will not see the effect with your eyes because you always focus on what you are looking at so that will always be sharp (Unless your eyes are fooked ). Your peripheral vision is not sharp but this is different to DOF because your eye flicks between points of interest.

DOF has no place in a first person view in a game. As others have said how will the game know what you focus on.

Great for replays but pointless in game IMHO

Leave the cars as they are. Make the models more detailed yes but they are the cars they are.

Add more cars, not change the ones we have.

Quote from Gener_AL (UK) :

Oh MrRodgers.... your point is that hot lappers do not race?, or are you just asking for forgiveness for missing errors in my grammar, your spelling, my spelling? Or just snide attempt to educate the new ones in how this forum operates?
Promote Iracing? Cure insomnia?

Just calm down and re-read my original post. You are too hung up associating what I said with something you and many other enjoy when it has been explained again and again and again that was not the case.

Here is the start of my post "LFS also does suffer what I will call hot lap racers.". The points of interest in this sentence are underlined!

Notice it did not say "LFS also suffers hot lappers" which is a very different sentence. The two sentences are VERY VERY different and mean very different things.

I then go on to actually explain in the post what I mean by a hot lap racer yet because you had locked in your mind (and still are hung up on) that it was an insult to hot lapping you failed to actually read what was being said and what context it was being said in.

Then when I expanded on what I mean so that everyone else understands you will still not let it go.

One final time.... It was not an insult to hot lappers. Grow up, let it go and get over it! The term does not matter, everyone else understands what was said and nobody else thinks it was an inslut to the LFS hot lap community.

Quote from JohnPenn :

Who's winning anyone have the score?
Those Hotlappers are causing all the problems, how dare they set fast lap times, avoid them like the plague.
As for Iracing when you drive the cars its just on another level from anything I pretended to drive before , but it faces the same problems that LFS does.

1:No one is ever wrong and they will defend that postion untill there's no one left to listen.

2: In Iracing the hotlappers get special black colours to warn you about them


The more thing change the more they stay the same.

Opps I was wrong. There is one other person that has not actually read what is being said. Noticed the word hot lap and then assumed I was insulting hot lappers.

JohnPenn also equals Fail!

Re-read what has been said but before you do remove from you mind it is an insult to the hotlap community. You might then actually understand and also agree with what has been said.

Last edited by Woz, Mon 18 Jan 2010, 06:53.

Quote from jasonmatthews :

Good point, but I think you and General AL can both agree, that good hotlappers are usually good racers...

The issue is, the term hotlappers is used to categorise a certain behaviour of driving which you have so eloquently pointed out, but all good hotlappers in my experience have loads of LFS racing experience and are probably the best and fairest drivers in LFS, so it doesn't fit the description that people label them with. Simply say, some people are fast but simply have no racecraft, or are flucking idiots, or cannot race for toffee, but to use the hotlapper term is just wrong... IMHO of course

I agree the term I use can be confused but it also is a good description of those that think they can race in the same way you set a hotlap. No race craft is a far wider category of people and include new people that no nothing of race lines etc so does not carry the same meaning

That said bbman had no problem understanding what I originally said so it was clear when read all the way through instead of reading a word like hotlap out of context then reacting with a rant

Last edited by Woz, Sun 17 Jan 2010, 08:57.

Quote from Gener_AL (UK) :

Here we go blame the fast guys

You missed my point and went off on a tangent. So take a deep breath and calm down. I did not mention any specific drivers but more a driver mentality which I call hotlap racer. Let me expand.

There are many great people that hold hotlap records and it was not a dig at any of them as the names you mention are respected hot lapping and racing so climb off your high horse for a while

I was pointing out that some drivers have a mentality when they race that racing is the same as hotlapping, when we all know they are very different skills.

Racing is compromise where you have to react to the situation around you and take other drivers actions into account while a hotlap you have the track to yourself and can put to the limits. So the people I call hotlap racers fail to understand this.

You will also find the people I call hotlap racers are the people that bitch if wind is on for example because they care more about lap time than race position. In a race lap time means nothing, only position matters, and normally your lap times are lower because fighting for position effects the lap time of both people in the fight for position.

Hope that helps lower your blood pressure and let you see what I was talking about

The short 3-5 lap races really compound this issue a hugh amount as well. When you have a 10+ lap race you have time to fall into a pace and look for mistakes in the driver in front and have time to presure them into mistakes. In a sprint race too many drivers get red mist.

Last edited by Woz, Sun 17 Jan 2010, 02:01.

For the OP: LFS also does suffer what I will call hot lap racers.

These are people that can lay down great hotlap time but fail to understand race rules or understand that the person that has a place on them might not be as fast.

They end rear ending slower drivers that start higher in the grid etc because they just don't judge the situation or they believe they have the right to dive through at the wrong times when they don't have position to make a move. Their view is I am faster so go out my way.

These people normally only join servers without wind enabled because that might effect their "hot lapping"

The situation is compounded as other have pointed out because most LFS races are sprint races. LFS should add a yellow %/ratio to the stats that records the number of races and number of yellows so servers can filter bad racers (Fast and slow)

Thought this was going to be some stupid aawwww look at my kid drumming vomit video but he can play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOR8-IJ4jIg

Quote from irollgen4s :

ah, now that makes a bit more sense.

I still stand by what i said though. Actual race slicks would be nice on road cars and etc.

sigh... this has been thrashed through so many times. From what has been said about changes coming you can expect the road cars to be a LOT more restrictive on setup options. So don't hold your breath for slicks on road cars.

Quote from Dajmin :

I got DoD:Source free with HL2 and enjoyed it (despite not usually liking WW2-themed games). But yes, no bugger plays it.

I got L4D2 and it's awesome. Being forced to leg it rather than turtle up makes it intense.
Oh, and Audiosurf is made of f*cking win

If you have any Aphex Twin stuff play Audio Surf with that OMFG

I am still loving the Expert Mono mode

Quote from Shadowww :

1. 400KB/s is SLOW.
2. 3.5GB = crap quality even if you say it looks great (there's no way 3500kbit/s can look great)
3. VLC is crap
4. That's how you are supposed to seed (attachment) (unlike those 56k seeders who only do bad by seeding (e.g. if you only have max. 100 connections, if 95 of them are 56k your download is fail)
5. That video was filmed with noisy crapcamera so it's crap, not worth even 700MB DVDrip.

You need to take a deep breath and calm yourself down a little lol

If you are bitching about 3mb/s downloads you are spoilt lol. My NZ net connection tops out at 600KBps lol

Why moan if you are getting 3Mb/s? This is a FREE production seeded by fans. Be happy and enjoy the little things while it comes down.

Well I enjoyed the 3.5Gb vid just fine. Its not crappy shite and its not too much HD space to be a keep. Where as 25Gb is a massive chunk for 1 concert vid.

To each their own. Enjoy when you finally get it though

Quote from Electrik Kar :

Hugo Largo - Eureka

OMG. Another Hugo Largo fan. Love this band. Saw them live in the UK years ago on the Drum tour

Quote from Shadowww :

I wonder how "soon" the 25G bluray is coming. The 9GB has miserably small amount of seeders, barely reaching 3MB/s :/

Get the PS3/PC 720P mp4. Its 3.5Gb with about 300+ seeders. VLC plays it fine.

I got it at 400KBps so took a few hours but not too long. Even this size file looks great

Watching now. Well worth the download.

EDIT: Just finished watching. Stunning what driven fans can put together for nothing with the right source material.

Last edited by Woz, Thu 7 Jan 2010, 09:00.

For the MP3s the Vegas show sounds is not good but the other "Gift" show is

Quote from Greboth :

Hmmm I enjoy listening to some NIN so this should be good. Will download when I get home and have a look. Thanks for the link

You can also download the studio albums "The Slip" and "Ghosts 1" from the site free if you dont already have them

Last year 400Gb of raw HD footage was released from a big NIN tour.

This has now been edited and is ready for FREE download.

I am grabbing the 720P vid and the 320Kbps MP3s

http://www.nin.com/

Enjoy

1st rule of programming....... Use source control

Subversion + TortoiseSVN is a great set of tools for this.

With this in place you could have seen the changes you made instantly

Just got Audiosurf, currently at $2.50US. Great cross between Roller coaster race and Tetris with trippy visuals where you own music creates the levels.

Great way to listen to your music

Have a guest pass for Team Fortress 2 which is good until the 17th Jan. PM if you want

Just watched 2012 and I have to say that I enjoyed my whiskey induced new years hang-over more!

Today I have mostly been listening to Tool

Quote from trebor901 :

there's a reason for that, and its not a good reason. Max Payne 2 is £1.79 and i bought that because well its got a good rating and its a game ive always wanted but never got round to buying.

? Last time I checked there were still more active L4D1 players online vs L4D2 buy a good few 1000.

Its a 1 day sale price for L4D1. If you dont have thats a good price as still a great game.