Quote from wE1l :

Anyone can tell me why there isn't a UK team, but instead we have England, Scotland...



?

Because football was found in the UK, so they got the rights to deliver a scots, wales, english etc. team. The other countries are just the normal countries then
I think, england wont survive very long, maybe quarterfinals.

Quote from tristancliffe :

Patch U is better. I can't think of many reasons you'd want Q...

to watch an old replay...

well, a joke late at night:

Henry, van nistelroy and Ballack sit in hospital. Their wifes each got a baby. Doctor comes to them three and says: Congratulations, you three each have a nice boy. But we have a small prob, we switched the babies and dont know which one belongs to whom.

Ballack immediately jumps up, grabs the dark baby. Henry says: "Hey, that's prolly mine!" - Ballack:"Could be, but it's definitely not DUTCH!"

Go to "pseudo-private" servers. What i mean is, that maybe some teams should give the pw to their servers out kind of freely. that still keeps wreckers away, cause the possibility that an admin is there is bigger and people would easily give the pw only to their buddies. That's not a guarantee against wreckers, but it's also not a real reason to try to get that pw if you are a wrecker. CRC was too much regulation, still basic idea is good. So that shpuld be some way to go.

Quote from JeeP :

schade Deutschland alles ist vorbei, alles ist vorbei


schade Deutschland alles ist vorbei tralalal

haha jeepo, we'll see, who'll sing first :P That smells like a bet! 5 bucks that dutchies go back home before germans

Well, still about 3 weeks to go, until the WC in football starts, but hey, everyone gets nervous about it, especially here in germany. So we need a thread about it here!

Who's gonna win it? Will the brasilians be beatable? Who's going to be the biggest surprise? Will the dutch find the way to the championship (after not being there 2002) :P ?

I'm really looking forward to a big party month here. Myself living in Frankfurt, which is one of the cities with WC stadiums, we gonna have everyday party on the videowalls, I think. How will you live through that month?

so many questions...

Cheerio! It's time for some goooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaals

Hmm, I have one question: What on earth does T7R want to do with a second class driver, a second class drinker and a second-class tongue-licker? :P

Have fun, Tris

It's not about the easiest track or anything. It's a lot about money and worktime. And nothing else.

Quote from typhoonf1 :

Am I the only one that thinks this is a really ugly wheel compared to the DFP?

Just from the looks, I think you are the only one. brushed metal, alu and leather feel and look way better, than plastic and rubber.

wooohoo, first test just worked. THAT rox, Kegetys!!

Quote from JoeCool :

i know, im not the oldest.
nor the fastest. never the slowest.
grandfather though.

oh, i hate these kind of polls :tombstone

Congrats to grandfathership, JoeC

well, lets see if you get any official version of that outside the BMW pitlane park. (I doubt it, cause F1 car on F1 track sounds too much like F1, and that sounds like "sony" to me )

Quote from TagForce :

It's 1000N for the rear wing (3.17.3)...
I never said they were in fact doing anything illegal, but I was merely saying what the other teams are complaining about. The other teams are simply saying that for each 1000N the rearwing cannot deflect more than 1 degree, and Ferrari's wing is... So for 2000N the deflection may be 2 degrees, 3000N 3 degrees etc... That's what the teams say are the rules (or should be the rules), and they think Ferrari's wing deflects more than 1 degree/1000N when there's over 1000N applied.

Yeah, well. YOu see what is written in the rules. It just says for 1000N there is 1° allowed. It says nothing, what can happen above that limit. Again Ferrari seems smarter and understands the rules better, than a lot of the other teams. It sounds poor, childish and envious, if you complain about something like this, with several hundreds of millions in the own budget. They just missed the next step and now they whine about it. It's like german car manufacturers whining about DIESEL-particle filters or Hybrid-engines, just because they missed the next technology step...

well, tagforce, the point is: There is simply MORE force than 500N applied at higher speed. So they are in the rules, if it bends more than the given limits at higher speeds, cause there are probably something like 1kN or even more applied, due to the air. Maybe they found a technique to use that way better, than the other teams. So they are in the rules, but smarter/more technically advanced. Which actually always was and still is one big part of F1: It's NOT only about the drivers, it's also about the technical advantages and development.

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Watch them!

Eh, why arent the wings red and white?

beer^^

Quote from detail :

I think, along with "No join during a race" there can be an option "no escape during a race", which would mean no Shift-S outside of pits, no going to spectators when driving.

No, cant. Cause this could be even more misused than not join during race, and people who have to go cant leave etc. Typical thing: You can keep people from entering a club or anything else, but there is no right in the world to keep them from leaving (OK, except CSI comes, cause there's murder :P ).

On Topic: If you hate Shift-S, go join a league, there Shift-S or going Spec is usually not allowed during races.

You wont get the limited access to S2 servers. There are several reasons, and most of them are easy to figure out:

First: you even have physics upgrade etc. for S1, why upgrade max. clients? Why should you buy S2 then (hey, people wanna live from their work...). Get the "new" game S2 for just an upgrade price and stop whining about some really really selfish shit. Or do you whine to Bill Gates, cause Win98 support stopped? Or Need For Speed Porsche Servers stopped? Or MotorcityOnline servers stopped? Or NFS Underground stopped? Is there actually ANY other game that gives you new track, physics upgrade, and additional features for nothing? 2 years after release. If there would be more people like you, there would be more S1 servers, but obviously, you are almost alone, and should start thinking about that...

Edit: Not getting Diploma for 3 hours of work?

Quote from Robbson :

I hope you don't forget to think while you work. In Germany I it's late evening now and I spend my spare time to write something in this forum. So you can see, there's not so much money you can earn at this time except rents or something like that.

But discussion about money is senseless... and "want a job" is still another thing than "get a job", Mr. Workaholic.

Robbson.

At the 24/7 gasstation around the corner they always look for workers. 3hours and you have your 18,- Euros for your upgrade...

Quote from Robbson :

Yes, because in the German forum I nearly found some stubborn persons only, who don't like to discuss an issue but want to blame other users with lower accolade. Here I've found some serious people with interesting arguments and I see you also can do it...

OK, maybe you start thinking who's stubborn...

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Cool, this sounds like the product description of "Need For Speed - Underground". There you have only 6 city tracks... and they splitted it to longer and shorter versions and also let you drive it the other direction so you have 36 "tracks" at all... But your idea with the cars&tracks combination is even more brilliant: 1600 cars/tracks combinations...
Do you work in the marketing sector? Your "trick the customer" methods sound like this.

OK, maybe I should put it an other way: How much different racing does LFS offer you and which other games would you have to buy, to get the same? GTR for GTR cars, PlayStation2 + F1 game for BMW Sauber, CRC for Rallyecross. And those are only the close to sim-games. Ther is actually no sim out there that simulates streetcars.

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Their games are nearly perfect and getting better and better...

nearly perfect? And hope dies last...

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I never said that LFS is a poor quality game... I played it a lot (offline) and be (somewhat) addicted to it. But I didn't start all the comparisons to other games like GTR.

And there are a lot of funny people here which dream in their own world.... "Never seen patches for GTR" and something like this. That's paranoid. There are many patches up to version 1.5 out yet... sometimes with more tracks and cars... 24h le mans races... that's also great content... But LFS fanboys like to ignore that other companies offer something great, too.

No, wrong. More people than you might think see, buy and play the other games. Even like _some_ of the content. Most complete is LFS and stays LFS. Besides that: saying the 24hrs of Spa for GTR are great content is one of the best jokes ever. Hey, I stopped in Masters of Endurance 24hours of Aston several times for a couple of minutes to change the scenery. And besides that: I dont like companies that promise me something (driver-swaps LIKE IN THE REAL FIA GT were promised for GTR from the beginning.) and dont fulfill their promises.

The point you make about the licensing is simple wrong: You get a great game for 36,- Euros, with a lot of content. More racing than any other sim can give you atm for that price. If you whine about S1 content, move on. NFS Undergroundplayers moved on to UG2 then to MW etc. etc.

"The King is dead, long live the King!"

Quote from Robbson :

And this issue is continuing... if S3 will be released in about 2 years (or later), new buyers probably have to pay 18+18+18 Euro... Great policy! They can get commercial retail games for the same price which have far more content and are dedicated to realistic racing simulations, too (like GTR, rFactor, etc.).

OK, I just cutted out the other trolling, that you also started in german forum, and make it simple:

Just for the record of speculation: With S3 you get an Online Racing Sim with prolly 30+ clients on a server, LFSTV, about 1600 car/track combinations from low powered UF1 to formula1, from bike to trucks. With tracks from rallye to rallyecross, from autocross to Formula1 tracks, ovals etc. An uptodate DX9 engine with best texture work you can get.

And you want to tell me, that 54 Euros will be too much? How much did you pay for a single series racing sim called GTR, which didnt ran smoothly? New price 55 euros... or an even less equipped game like rfactor? Did those game work well? Ah, right, you gonna buy GTR2 for another 50 euros this year, for 3 new cars, a "brand new" gfx and physics engine and a season 2 years ago. Wow, LFS is expensive....

Ah, did I start about the planned online features of racemore? Costs of iracing? Ah, sry...

To put it straight: 36,- Euros for the quality you get atm is probably the best price/quality ratio out on the sim-market.

Ahh, I'm with DEVIL there, but time will tell, and at one time, a DX9 engine is as uptodate as the current lfs-gfx-engine was last year

ROFL, best thread ever before S2 final is released. I reckon Ferrari F40, Porsche 959, coastside-roads, Police cars, Cops'n'Raobbers implemented, subtitle: S3 - The Duel. ROCK ON!

no, there is no way to prevent this. Be proud, that people - even if they are wreckers - like your skins and use them. The moment you put them online to lfsworld, people get them and can use them freely.

almost all infos together here: http://www.lfsnews.net