Oh plus every 3 months they check your driving (data from the box) and if your good then they give you some of the money back (basically if you can prove your a good driver you get dead cheap insurance) oh and that quote is not on my provisional that's full license (I will take a screenshot later for proof)

Quote from Crashgate3 :

Where the hell is an 18 year old getting £800 insurance in the UK? I'm 33 and married with kids, and mine is £900 with 2 years no-claims.

Look at coop young drivers insurance, you get a black box though. Quote for 2002 vauxhall corsa 1.0 , I have my parents as named drivers (mum is 38 and dad is 42) and I live in the middle of nowhere.

Most cars I have looked at with parents as named drivers are ~£1000

Just you need to be willing to get a black box installed

Quote from nikopdr :

a 740 estate. a fun winter toy, but it doesn't do much MPG.

but on a more serious note i would say i'd rather look for a MK3-MK4 golf, or if you're into older cars(like that 740), try a MK1 golf. MK1 golf's 1.6 diesel is one of the slowest cars i've ever seen, but it gets more than enough MPG. my friend's mk1 caddy gets 55mpg with me onboard aswell, it's so stunning

if you're not a fan of front wheeled shitboxes, then i'd guess a ford sierra is one choice, altough i don't know how the insurance rates go in britain for that car.

Ha yeah the 740 , I'm not actually a huge fan of older cars just a few I like (including that Volvo). I've got a lot of serious thinking ahead of me and I'm still wondering if I should buy a car now or wait untill winter is done with(lol not even started yet) as I'd rather get some experience driving in general before adding in snow (yes I am Canadian so Im used to the snow, but still!)


Thanks for the advise and I will post any updates in my car buying adventures (most likely see some crappy car in my sig around 3 months from now)

Quote from Nadeo4441 :

Sorry, I didn't know it's so hard(expensive) to insure cars in the UK.

I'm 19 years old and I could insure a BMW 535i for about 200€/year here

I wish that was the case, I need to win the lotto if I want a car even half as nice

Quote from [RCG]Boosted :

thats dirt cheap...it costs me (pretty much any car) 1500€ to insure a car.
well that dropped to 1100€ now that ive passed my 2 years of probation time.
im 30 btw...age doesnt really matter in that case here.


and tbo u should really look at something small for a start...most important is that it drives or?
i started out with a pug 205...no powersteering, just 60 hp but a fun little car.

Yeah got that right, the guy who lives near me has a old 205 and it's not half bad. Atleast with a old car like that I could actually learn how to fix it as modern boxes have everything hidden away under a mile of plastic

Quote from nikopdr :

if you're in britain, buy a vauxhall nova or a citroen saxo. then start doing handbrake pulling near a local McD/KFC drive-in. you'll get all the mad respect from the drifters there and get instant women.

Ha, well I just looked at a faux hall corsa 1.0 as it seems cheap for insurance (£800) but I'm not really a boy racer so I will pass on that part.

Anyone watch that top-gear episode when they looked at cars for teens and Jeremy got that super sexy Volvo? I want that(I have always like it but don't know why)

Quote from PoVo :

Good luck insuring a BMW in the UK.

Ha , I just looked and I'm pretty sure the insurance website just gave me a virtual kick in the balls for even asking! No chance apparently



On another note I looked up a fiesta (older ones are actually more expensive for insurance) and I can buy a 02 for around £1500 and insurance is around £1000 (yo yeah over budget but a idea)

Last edited by tbofram, Tue 18 Sep 2012, 18:17.

Quote from robt :

Get an old classic, or something a bit unusual, that drops insurance price most times.... something like an old vauxhall omega or ford capri or a series 1/2 land rover. Think out of the box!

My capri was £1500 to insure the first year of driving, cost me £750 to buy. 2.0 2 door classic sports car for your budget aint bad.

I will look at the Capri as I know the garage has about 5 sitting in there yard (drive past them every day) ,I will see if any would actually pass its mot. I love the Capri because when I was younger my dad had a 75 mustang and the Capri reminds me of it.

Quote from KiRmelius :

I'd buy a Fiesta MK3 diesel. Costs cents to run, and you don't have to worry about breaking down, as you could just buy another one for like 100 pounds.

I never looked into the older fiestas (maybe because all 3 math teachers at my school have one and it put me off) but they are half decent cars

Quote from Xaid0n :

Focus, Mondeo, 307, 206, Astra. Plenty of cars out there to choose from, but insurance is going to be a stinger. Always good to check autotrader, give you an insight to what you can get for your money.

Thanks, had a look before and as you said the insurance is the killer. I had a list of cars that I could actually afford to get insurance for and it was really horrible: old ford ka , Chevy matiz ... You get the idea


Just hoping someone else found something somewhat nice that I missed

Heey everyone,

You most likely don't know me (don't post here much) but well I'm thinking of buying my first car when I turn 18(my parents want to buy me the new vw up! But I'd rather buy my own car with my own money).

well I live in the uk so im working in pounds. I have saved up £3000 but I'd rather only spent £1500 (will go over if I get a suggestion for a nice car that's cheap) and I would need To buy the car and insure it (again will go over if something nice comes up), I don't mind getting them black boxes(usually cheaper) as I don't speed and I dont do motorway/night driving.

I have found a ford ka that I can buy and get insuranced for around £1250, but I'm a big lad ( 6' 5") so I'd rather a larger car like a estate (I also have a dog and soon to be moving house)

If the car is not 100% ugly and cheap enough to run then I will consider it. Thanks

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Not that this helps but I have two computers i play lfs on (ones mine and other is younger brother)

My brothers pc is a hp with 1.7 ghz AMD CPU with a build in gpu (think its 64 mb dedicated and boosted to 128 mb with shared memory) , it has 1gb. Think it runs stable with 15-30 fps depending on how many people on track (I seen it at 50 fps when stopped on autocross in single player)

My pc is a i7 sandy bridge extreme (12 threads, 6 cores) at ~4 ghz , has a Nvidia GTX470 and although it could have more I only have 4gb ram (think I can triple it) and I limit it to 100 fps

Lfs is not really hard on a computer so unless you have a calculator from the cold war you should be fine

Quote from lukelfs :

Yeah but..

Aye,but I can imagine it will be in stock again soon (hopefully) . Was thinking of buying one from them

Any chance you can make the gyro on it control the gas/brake ?

Can I just ask what calendar you were using to calculate the fact LsC has been closed two years? Been a year tops

Over 100 members and counting! Jesus I think I just wet myself.....


Next time you make a video (God help us all) i suggest blocking text as it looks a bit silly

Quote from lrk-racer :

That is just to adjust the field of view when using multiple monitors. But this setting is recommended to get the best results. May I ask, how they stand, do you want the ingame steeringwheel on one monitor and the other one to look out of your car on the right / left? Or you want the ingame wheel in the exact middle of both, so it is divided be the screenborders?

thanks for the clarification

i'm far too cheap too buy two or even three monitors for my computer. maybe one day i will then i will know what lfs is really like

And have you tried setting up dual monitors in LFS? I.e in one of the graphics menus there is a option too add extra monitors (and you can say you have one on right and one on left)


But after that I can't help you as I have never tried it

Did you forget too tell your dad that this is a video game and not actually real life? As far as games go this is very good. Tell your dad to grow some balls and just enjoy it

Quote from Forbin :

Used PC's are essentially worthless. Definitely a buyer's market, because there aren't really any buyers. You'd be lucky to get 100 Euros for the whole system.

The real way to do it is part it out.

Are you crazy? It's worth a lot more then that. He could sell it real easy on eBay as there is a lot of people looking for great deals

That will be the day!

that spinning xrg was cool. it like span so fast it had a lift off. wish these hacks were allowed and were public

Quote from jasonmatthews :

I can do same weekend next year.

great well i will try and get it booked for next year then... i hope petrol prices aren't any higher next year because it will cost my a killing too drive up from scotland (i guess i could get some car-pooling going)

Trollololololo all the waiting for the G27 and the shit just got serious when G25 arrives.... if you bought it yourself but you don't even have one friend to trust to give £24 too then you have something wrong with you....

seriously tell yo mother that it aint that risky to buy online.... plus tell her WW2 is over and she can come out the under-ground bunker (them dishes aren't going to wash themselves )

Quote from SOLDAT1996 :

Thank you. I have used your code but people says that it work with mistakes.

it seems to work fine for me

i'm guessing either you have a really really out router and it just can't handle the extra load (in that case you shouldn't be hosting) or the connection your using on the computer your playing on is cutting out