Am I right or am I right?illepall

This is an IRL at Watkins Glen topic

Quote from lizardfolk :

TBH I think Dario's lack of success is due to a poor car. Sure he's run worse than David Stremme before him, but Stremme also had a long series of 30- finishes as well. Stremme's record is over Franchitti was purely due to Stremme's experience over Franchitti's inexperience. Personally, the 40 car needs serious work. Even Sterling Marlin was struggling with it before he moved on as well.

Not going to dispute the first bit, but Sterling was headed for a championship before he got hurt. The man really hasn't been the same since then, either.

I like the idea of an oval server. If the admins were nice enough to give it a try, I will be sure to make the best of it.

What if we had an oval server where the cars cycled instead of the track. License requirement based on the race and SS servers. Silver or National B for a minimum. Even a spec setup pack might be helpful to prevent a huge gap in speeds.

Quote from Dac :

i think that M3 looks retarded.

There were dozens of retarded M3s at the track. Which one draws your attention?

The last thing I would do is buy a Chrysler. The SRT-4 isn't a bad car, I just won't buy one. Will four track tires, a tool box, and the other associated parts fit in a Neon? I understand the depreciation that comes along with a new car, I just care more about the perks of being the original owner.

Quote from Nathan_French_14 :

Ambrose got ran over?! Anyone got a clip?

Youtube has what you're looking for. http://www.youtube.com/results ... +infineon&search_type=

Quote from CSU1 :

great. so now i have two replicators and only one of what i need to replicate. just does not make sense lol

Then you sell the replica, duh. Having a replicator is like a buy one get one free coupon for life.

Cool to see this thread is still going. Good luck at Daytona tonight, Marcos.

In the chicane photo that you posted, it shows impact on the LF and RR. At also shows that you are running over the curbing. This matches the raised surface and how the suspension works. Perhaps you should stay off of the curbing. It might result in a slightly slower lap time, but also consider what the damage does to your average times over 10-20-30 laps.

I'm sure there's a fix for the problem, and is likely to be found in you setup and racing line. Ride height, wing, damping, and spring rate. What about sway bar? That will pitch weight to the opposite side and level the car out in turning.

Quote from SidiousX :

my friend has an SHO, he loves it.

Glad someone does. I'm looking to move on. The past six years have been fun, but I'm gearing up for a car with a warranty. The magic 8-ball shows a Mazdaspeed 3 in my future.

Do we actually know that the car made it all the way to the wall? I don't really wish to see the crash a dozen times, but I think The car never made it to the catch net before the final explosion.

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Looks like Marcos Ambrose is having a good day. This is his first start in Nascar Sprint Cup racing. GO GO GO!!!

Stock cars on a road course is like a whale dry-humping a beach. Just try to turn away. Might be a little awkward, but a rare sight.

Everyone loves a working class hero. The Nascar effect. It also explains why so many people hate Jeff Gordon.

I've been to Englishtown a few times in the past couple years. As I recall, they use a net at the end of the track to cushion the wall. The "track" actually ends shortly past the scoring boards. A lot of what you saw was due to the fact that the initial engine explosion sheared off the body and parachutes. Also, drag cars have very small brakes. I may be wrong, but I don't think they even have front brakes.

There really is no runoff issue at Englishtown. It's just unusual to see a car explode at the end of the track like Scott's did. Still, tragic.

RIP Scott.

Quote from mcintyrej :

Lmao - want to learn to drift in a supra? Get a 700$ 180SX and you can mess about in that. Supra's are crap, to be honest. I once watched this programme where one did the quater mile. it was like 16 seconds or something. For a car with so much power, thats pathetic.

That's pretty much what I have seen as well. They put down good numbers on a dyno, but aren't that great on the strip, or track. However, if you want to drift, go for it. Just stay away from the rest of us with 23 chromosomes.

Quote from ajp71 :

It still weighs a few tons, is very simple (solid rear axle, pushrod V8 and leaf springs?) and like all American cars is cheap and cheerful and afraid of corners.

Eh? The Taurus has had an independent, coil sprung, suspension since it was introduced in 1986. The only V8 that they ever had was in the 96-99 SHO. Even that was a 3.4L, DOHC engine. Block by Ford, Heads designed my Yamaha. The car's weight is right in line with comparably sized cars, foreign and domestic. The lightest were around 3100lbs, the fattest eclipsed 3500 lbs. The light ones were 1989 models sold without options, the pigs were the later ones with a crapload of options. They never did part with the Flintstone braking system, though.

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I am well aware the Taurus X is a completely different car, I was just commenting on build quality of American cars. Funny thing is we were just having a conversation about different levels of quality between Ford USA and Europe when the roof lining fell off.

Do you believe in irony? I suppose it depends on the care a car recieves. My interior had ZERO squeakes or rattles when I threw away the interion a couple years ago. It was 13 years old at that point, over a hundred drag passes and a few track events.

Quote from -DrftMstr- :

Just imagine cheap American cars... For all I care, even if the SHO beat the M5 in 1990, I would ( and did) still buy an 18 year old BMW over a Ford.

Sorry for your Chrysler experience. They're rendezvous with Daimler didn't help much. My family had a 1990 Dodge pickup could have taught a saigon whore a couple new ways to suck.

I won't deny that American cars lack in a 'few' areas. Then again, my parents Nissan isn't exactly an inspiring drive either. I had my own fix for the American car thing with the T.

The engine is Japanese (Yamaha)
Trans is Jap (Mazda)
American quality interior is rotting in a land fill somewhere in Lancaster County
Differential is British (Quaife)
Suspension is a mix of GM, Koni, Ground Control, Eibach
Brakes from PBR (Autralian if memory serves)

Sure, the car is a b*tch to drive on the street. It's quick around a track, unique, and dammit, I built it myself. That's a key thing. I've had trouble finding things that I am happy with. No manufacturer has the ball to create an affordable car that fits my needs. I had to take what I had and make the best out of it. Then again, I think there's something cool about a big 'ol American sedan chasing down more traditional track cars.

Anyway, I really don't have any particular loyalty toward manufacturers or countries. I actually went and looked at a Mazdaspeed 3 today. I really like it and think it would make a better daily driver than the SHO.

That's all for me tonight. I'm really trying not to step on toes here. I guess my point (completely lost at this point, whatever) was that there is another car that the OP might consider. A lot of car for the money, sporty enough to have fun, and inexpensive. I just thought I would give a little historical background (I thought it might draw a bit of attention, and a few took the bait).

Thanks,
Mike

Alright. I'm not going to put a whole lot of time into time. I'm a little drunk, and it's not on topic. But...

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http://www.motortrend.com/road ... 93_ford_taurus/index.html

ajp71- I'm sorry you had issues with an American car. The Taurus X has nothing to do with the original except for the name. I hope you weren't confused. Any and all comment relating 'sport' and 'Taurus' are only to be made for the SHO. The SHO and regular Taurus models had many, many differences.

I just want the Manilo tix...

I've known several people who made a Ford Taurus as their first car. Most were the 3.0 or 3.8 v6 with auto tranny. I made mine the 220hp, stickshift version. SHO for those in the loop. Cheap insureance, cheap buy-in price, decent on gas. Keep in mind that the SHO was comtetition for the 5 series Bimmer back in the day. When it was introduced, they were near the top of the heap of sports sedans.

A nice SHO would run you $2000. Mid 20s combined mileage. I pay $35 a month insurance. You're out near Pittsburg, right? I know a couple guys out that way that stockpile used parts.

Good luck, and for the love of god, stay away from v6 Mustangs and Camaros. That is, unless you've got a set of tits.

You're going to see stange things when it comes to chassis tuning on an oval. If the car is close to being set up properly, you should only be worried about tire pressures and cross weights. Tire pressure is adjusted to achieve a temperature as close as possible to the manufactures suggested range as measured by a pyrometer across the tread width. Corner weights are adjusted by different means depending on the rulke book. By changing ride heights on opposite corners, you are shifting weight from the right-front to the right-rear tire.

Do you have a link to a rule book? I'd love to take a look. Then I would be able to tell you exactly what adjustments you are likely to encounter. I don't want to read too much into 'sportman' and tell you something contrary to your reality. In my area, we have sportsman modifieds, street stocks, bombers, pro4, outlaw stock, late models, strictly stock, hobby stock, pony stock, and the list goes on. Each one has different rules.

A link to your home track would also help.

The best thing I can tell you is to spend a few nights in the pits looking at other cars. In general, other racers are glad to help new teams get into the sport.

Look at all the things that teams are doing to modify parts and whatnot. "Sportsman" does mean different things. Do you have a rule book? There is no point in even building a car if you don't know what you are allowed to do or not do. "Circle Track" magazine might help you too.

Kinda too vague. Describe the track/car. There's a lot of things that you can do that might be against the rules.

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I play on 3 setups.. got picks of two of them right now.

Triple 22 inch screens with car interior. Work in progress.

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and on a 71 inch 1080p DLP:

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Jeez! Now I feel a little ashamed to post mine.

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