To do a Button - be very hyped up and over-rated and deemed to be the next best British Driver, and turn that into 1 win in 6 (?) years and blame it on the car.

I play RACE alot, and I love it, especially online and in the community I'm part of we often get 15-20 people in our server who are all there to get away from public servers.

Good fun, the most under-estimated sim IMO. Yes it has bugs, but see through those bugs (major ones have been fixed, and there's a patch coming soon which in theory fixes steam failures in online racing). It has big potential, I'll be getting the Caterham addon, and RACE07 when it's released.

Muse - Time Is Running Out

holy s**t...

he's aparently got no serious injuries. :jawdrop:

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my dad saw it and just said "he's had it"

let's hope not, I really do hope he's OK.

Quote from franky500 :

im afraid you may wish to re-evaluate the servers that you race on. I very rarely see this in S2.

Are these insults generally directed to you or other drivers? i'm just curious because like i said. its not something that i tend to see "often" although i do tend to visit the same servers and rarely go into servers that i do not know.

I jump around servers quite alot when I see a combo I like, and I very often see people saything things as quoted. It's not really a rare thing at all, it does happen alot, and I'm really sick of seeing it.

What's more frustrating is that half the time it's the accuser who's at fault, NOT the 'noob' (as they call the person they just took out).

I 100% agree with you. I've been wanting to put a post in like this for ever, but I've been somewhat biting my lip for about a year now.

This is still a great community, that is if you've been here for more than a year. But the bashing of new players, even people who post things in the wrong section on a forum. I know someone who used to not know how forums worked at all and didn't have a clue how to use them. Took me over a week to tell them how they work etc - mainly because they keep forgetting things. These people might not even know how to use the search function, or know where it is.

Just think before you bash.

Quote from three_jump :

So here is my suggestion: make the list alphabetical by ingame name. That would make searching specific people (to send setups for example) way easier.

That's just what I was thinking earlier... +10000000

I don't think sorting by LFSW name wouldn't work for sending setups to people. In-game name would be the way to go.

Has anyone got any information about the BT home hub?

I'm looking to get away from Pipex ASAP as they've put my connection on a 15GB bandwidth limit without letting me know - I've also been told I'm on 8mb (and am paying for it) when I'm still getting 2mb speeds - the exchange is about 50m away from my house.

Also I'm sick of their packet shaping at peak times, despite them claiming they don't.

I'm looking to change to BT, and they don't seem to do bog standard internet anymore, and only want to do it using their home hub. I'm a bit curious about their Home Hub and have a few questions as there's bound to be people here who use it.

Does anyone use one? is it good or bad?

Do they work with media streamers properly? (my dad has a Netgear MP101 streamer)

Does it have a built-in firewall?

Can I forward ports easily if needed?

Does the phone through the internet take up much bandwidth? (ie. will it lag me out of online games when my mum uses the phone?)

Does it have UPnP abilities?


these are the only questions I can think of for now, but I may think up of more later

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Good luck Sam and the rest of the people doing this! sounds like you need it!

Once it's all back up and running I'll try and get onto the CTRA licence system again. I think I'm gold now, but gave up long ago with it

Nice big list of changes!

Any differences between W49 (or however many it got up to) and X?

Quote from Dru :

so why in your msm profile does it say.... 'cheeky girls' 'cheeky christmas'

Look on my last.fm... if i've listened to it it'll show up on there which it doesn't


anyway...

Feeder - Buck Rogers :headbang:

The most under-rated driving song ever!

/me wonders how many people are killing their F5 key as we speak

congrats Moose!

If you knew what they were doing last night* I think you might change your mind (joking)


*they (me included) were doing drag racing in fully restricted fully ballased UF1s and reverse drag racing in LX4s - was such a laugh, and so much fun too

Alex: all you have to remember is those days are really over. As much as I'd like to see them for myself I can't - videos/dvd's/any media from those days are long gone. Bloody safety, who invented it?

For now we're stuck with what we have in tin-top series. Although it wouldn't suprise me if touring cars got more powerful as car development continues and safety increases

Quote from duke_toaster :

Could someone get rid of the blatent anti-BTCC trolling that appears whenever someone mentions it?

+1

But Alex wasn't too bad, at least he's explained himself and given his opinion in a fair(ish) way.

but my opinion is that BTCC is the best thing since cheese (I'm not a sliced bread person)

Quote from The Moose :

Of course Google knows....Google knows everything

Top of the list in Google was the dictionary definition

rep·ro·bate
n.1. A morally unprincipled person.
2. One who is predestined to damnation.

adj.1. Morally unprincipled; shameless.
2. Rejected by God and without hope of salvation.


I'ts just a word that i've never used in anger so i thought i'd throw it out there

aah I left the 's' on the end of it

/me is silly

Quote from The Moose :

reprobates

what on earth does that mean... Google doesn't even know!

That also means that I am an ex-fool and one of those whatever-they-are's

Actually, the 94 Season review mentioned that the 1994 Ford Mondeo Touring Car was just as fast around a track as the old RS500s (I am right with RS500 aren't I? - it's before I was born)

If I'm not mistaken these days touring cars are just as fast, if not faster than they were back in 1994.

Also what's interesting is that everyone here says it's not as good/clean as it is in the mid-90s which I just watched the season review of ('94), and saw there what we see today contact wise - I have '96-'06 season reviews on VHS/DVD and I'd say all those seasons are as rough as each other. You're the first one, Alex, who's said it's actually better in the 80s.

I'm sick of these F1 bashers constantly having a go at touring cars. You like F1, we like touring cars/tin tops. Leave it be, and stop butting in with these arguments all the time.

My view of F1 is - full of Politics, overpaid drivers, boring racing, drivers who are too scared to overtake.

Yes touring cars are rough, but it also produces overtaking and some of the best racing (IMO) in the world.

I watched the BTCC 1994 season review yesterday, and I have to say, there's as much contact there (and as bad) as there is now.

I think the only reason it's being highlighted more now is because of very much increased TV coverage and higher popularity of nay-sayers.

Feeder - Pushing the Senses

Mike, I was only using an example there

Quote from Dru :

i'd also state that the top 2 guys scores points in each team is also un-realistic.

you need to either cap the people in a team to 2 drivers or you have the other system is that the 'lowest' 2 team drivers score the team points, other wise you could have the situation where an uber team like MErcury score a 1-4 and basically get your top 2 points and everyone else starts with points from 5th...... kinda sucky tbh

WTCC uses a system where the top 2 finishing cars of each team/manufacturer score the points, then the rest of the points for teams/manufacturers follow on as if the 3rd (or 4th etc) cars weren't there.

Foo Fighters - Monkey Wrench

Well it's obvious that by the time we see a season 2 there will be 32 cars possible on the grid. So keep it to just 1 division and on 1 server.

But, one thing I'd like to see is this:
Drivers Championship (everyone can compete for this)
Teams Championship (for teams with 2+ cars - if they have more cars then the highest 2 finishers score the points)
Independants Championship (for single drivers in the series)

First 2 are obviously the same, but the added Independants championship would give the drivers without teams something to go for as they're already at a disadvantage because they don't have team mates to work with.

Another thing I'd like to see is a different points system that only goes down to 10th place, or something similar. Gives the people just outside the points places something to go for.

With the points system in Season 1 it was too complicated, the numbers were too big. Something with smaller points would help us non-mathematically minded people know how many points we need to beat certain drivers by.

For main drivers Championship I suggest something like:
1. 15 points
2. 12
3. 10
4. 9
5. 8
6. 7
7. 6
8. 5
9. 4
10. 3
11. 2
12. 1
Fastest lap: 1
Pole Position: 1

Then for Independants would be based on the position as if there were no 'teams' in the race:
1. 10
2. 8
3. 6
4. 5
5. 4
6. 3
7. 2
8. 1

I hope this made some sort of sense, I'll cut it short there as I now have to go to the Job Centre. So I may add to this later.

Well I am a Jason Plato fan, not because he hits everyone, but because he can overtake people - and he's a very nice down to earth bloke too! Yes seeing the highlights from Croft yesterday he did drive into the back of Turkington. But we don't have access to the telemtery and sometimes the sound sync is well out with the picture, so you don't know what happened.

To be honest, there's 1 guy 10x worse than JP, and that is Matt Neal. I've lost count of the amount of people he blatantly shoves out the way, then acts innocent/blames someone else.

I was at Croft yesterday for the 10th year running, and I really enjoyed it, I was sat at Sunny and watching the cars through the Esses and Barcroft is amazing, especially the speeds they go!

Worst part of the day was my hayfever, the pollen filter on the air con in my Yaris is knackered, so coming back home on the A67/A68 I had to pull over until my hayfever calmed down a bit.

I also wonder (a bit o/t) why people decide to drive at 45-50mph on the A68 at 8.15am when there's no other cars around? one guy was a bit cheesed off that he had a Yaris overtake him and magically went back to 65mph keeping up with me after I passed him.

anyway, I'll end this now

Quote from TiJay :

That's the first 720 degree FREX wheel isn't it? It's great.

It's more than 720 degrees... it's more than 900 degrees by the look of it.

I want one, now!!!!