Blueflame, I still can't see how a driver would willingly want to be crashed into. Collard will probably have to pay for that damage to his car and he would have known that, and that alone would stop most people from wanting to crash. The replay onboard Collard's car, you can't really hear the revs rise when he gets back on track, but if they do then perhaps he was thinking that he'd be able to spin all the way round 360 degrees and get back going on track again without losing too much time.
I don't think you can say that Collard intentionally let his car roll back on track to ruin someone's day. I know he's a dirty driver normally but he wouldn't purposefully position his car broadside in the middle of the track, ready and waiting to be t-boned by someone else and risk serious injury. It's impossible to tell from the replays if / how much he was braking. Maybe his wheels weren't locked, but perhaps he was just modulating the brake pedal enough to keep the wheels turning as locked wheels on grass offer pretty little resistance.
In my opinion, contact isn't needed to make the racing entertaining. If they were constantly only centrimetres away from each other but never touched it would be just as exhilerating to watch.
The worst example I've seen is Matt Neal at Brands, almost every time he was behind someone he'd wait until the entry to Clearways, give them a little tap to make them run wide then slide up the inside. He must have done this 4 or 5 times and that's not racing, that's ramming. A driver with good racecraft would work out a way to get around the other guy without touching, not go through him.
The worst example I've seen is Matt Neal at Brands, almost every time he was behind someone he'd wait until the entry to Clearways, give them a little tap to make them run wide then slide up the inside. He must have done this 4 or 5 times and that's not racing, that's ramming. A driver with good racecraft would work out a way to get around the other guy without touching, not go through him.
Made this skin aaaages ago but kept it private, never really drive the FZ5 any more so may as well make it public. It was based on the 2007 Gumball 3000 car liveries and turned out reasonably well. It's by no means perfect, for example qutie a few of the stickers look stretched, mainly the couple of the front bumper, but you'll never see them when you're driving!
It's already on LFSWorld.
It's already on LFSWorld.
With regards to the safety car, I don't think they saw the board until it was shown three-quarters of the way down the pitwall, at which time Nash probably saw the actual safety car itself and slammed on the anchors. O'Neil's view was probably blocked by Turkington of the safety car coming out and it's very easy to miss signs / flags when you're going along at full chat. The onboard from Turkington's car showed O'Neil hitting the back of him, before spearing off towards the barriers. He did very well not to give the armco a wack.
I was wondering, under those circumstances as O'Neil lost a few places after the SC was out, is he allowed to re-pass and get back to his original position? As I saw him sitting a few places back for a while...?
I was wondering, under those circumstances as O'Neil lost a few places after the SC was out, is he allowed to re-pass and get back to his original position? As I saw him sitting a few places back for a while...?
Ok thanks, get it now.
Would it be possible to put the option of vote kick / ban on as there's been a few idiots today just destroying the course and anything you say just goes in one ear and out the other. Or do they always need 8 people to complete the vote?
Would it be possible to put the option of vote kick / ban on as there's been a few idiots today just destroying the course and anything you say just goes in one ear and out the other. Or do they always need 8 people to complete the vote?
At the time, Collard got out of the car on his own and walked off all by himself. He said after coming out of hospital that at that moment, the adrenalin was just getting him through and numbing the pain, it wasn't until a little while after that his ribs or whatever were seriously hurting.
If they had red-flagged it, they wouldn't have taken that as a result as it was still quite early on. I think the race has to have completed at least 75% race distance for a result to be called if it's red flagged, although I may be wrong on the exact percentage.
From the replay of the incident looking from the back of Collard's car, you can see that the contact wasn't made when Collard came across to defend, it was when Nash went back to the other side after being blocked by Collard. It was Nash's fault, no question, although I don't think he meant it.
Should James Nash have has his BTCC win taken away?
Simple poll this, in the final race of the last round of the BTCC at Snetterton, James Nash took his maiden victory, managing to resist pressure from the big names right behind him. Early on in the race, however, he gave a little tap to Collard, spinning him off and the result was Collard getting broadsided by Jelley, and Rob going to hospital.
Now, I don't think the touch was intentional, I think Nash just misjudged the position of the front of his car relative to the back of Collards, and he thought that when he cut back across the track he wouldn't hit him. For that reason, I don't think he should have been disqualified.
However, I think the reason he was DQ'd goes back to the first round of 2009 at Brands, where Johnny Adam did almost the exact same thing to Plato (what a save!), Adam took advantage of this tap on Plato and led the race to the end. I think the BTCC comitee or whoever felt they had to show consistency with these two events, and for that reason decided to DQ James Nash, which was such a shame as I was really pleased for him.
So do you think he should have had his first ever BTCC win taken away from him? Vote, and give a reason if you can be bothered!
Video of the moment, the tap is at about 1:00, and the replays start at about 2:06. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPZj7bK-zLk
Now, I don't think the touch was intentional, I think Nash just misjudged the position of the front of his car relative to the back of Collards, and he thought that when he cut back across the track he wouldn't hit him. For that reason, I don't think he should have been disqualified.
However, I think the reason he was DQ'd goes back to the first round of 2009 at Brands, where Johnny Adam did almost the exact same thing to Plato (what a save!), Adam took advantage of this tap on Plato and led the race to the end. I think the BTCC comitee or whoever felt they had to show consistency with these two events, and for that reason decided to DQ James Nash, which was such a shame as I was really pleased for him.
So do you think he should have had his first ever BTCC win taken away from him? Vote, and give a reason if you can be bothered!
Video of the moment, the tap is at about 1:00, and the replays start at about 2:06. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPZj7bK-zLk
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The wet really shows up who can drive and who can drive fast, and you're obviously one of the latter!
Have you ever done Snet in the rain before? If so what's the "wet-line" like? I imagine through the chicane at the end of the back straight you'd have to stay on the normal dry racing line as that's the only real line through that corner, and maybe the same for the Bombhole and Russels? Although I could be completely wrong.
Have you ever done Snet in the rain before? If so what's the "wet-line" like? I imagine through the chicane at the end of the back straight you'd have to stay on the normal dry racing line as that's the only real line through that corner, and maybe the same for the Bombhole and Russels? Although I could be completely wrong.
Great server! Layout is really nice, very clean.
One thing, I take it that if we beat our PB for a single lap, but the combined time for the two laps is slower than our combined PB, then the new fast single lap won't be shown?
If you get me!?
One thing, I take it that if we beat our PB for a single lap, but the combined time for the two laps is slower than our combined PB, then the new fast single lap won't be shown?
If you get me!?
Absolutely, if your rivals get a couple of DNFs like you say then you'll be right back in with a shot, so keep the pedal to the metal!
You say you're racing at Snet at the end of this month with the F3 guys, which date exactly? We're there on the 22nd but I doubt we'll be at the same meeting as the F3 cars will be. I never normally like Snet, what with our straight-line-speed issues coming into play with the length of the back straight, but after watching the BTCC guys there a few days back I'm really up for it. Don't like the look of the new kerb on the way into Russells, but I hope they keep that tyre stack there on the second part of the chicane as you then know the maximum you can really cut the kerb.
Great stuff Tristan, like I said to get back to 2nd after that spin is brilliant, those conditions looked horrible.
When I was there a couple of months back, qualifying was almost as wet as that and it was amazing just how slippery it was on the normal racing line. Whereas at Brands last year in the rain you could take the normal dry line.
Anyway, great drive!
When I was there a couple of months back, qualifying was almost as wet as that and it was amazing just how slippery it was on the normal racing line. Whereas at Brands last year in the rain you could take the normal dry line.
Anyway, great drive!
Karts don't have springs that can fall off, and you won't be going at 150mph for one to hit you and almost knock you out, so you should hopefully be alright.
It's like every sportsman; they want to get back up and go back to competing in their sport as soon as possible after they have an injury and they think they're fit enough for the job, but quite often they're not up to it.
I don't think there's any way he'll be sat behind the wheel in Valencia.
I don't think there's any way he'll be sat behind the wheel in Valencia.
I would love to see him win, despite the fact when he used to race it was so boring when he won. What would be even better was if he had a proper tussell with someone like Hamilton, that would be brilliant.
He hasn't driven a F1 car since 2008, so best of luck to him.
He hasn't driven a F1 car since 2008, so best of luck to him.
A lot of track day companies specify that the cars you're doing them in have to be road legal, so slicks would be a no-no if that was the case.
I did my first proper track day at Silverstone when I was 15. I'd passed my ARDS test, although couldn't actually receive the license until I was 16. I had to have a fully qualified ARDS instructor alongside me in the car at all times, and the instructor we knew had seen me drive on track before and knew I was as capable as the others, and he knew some people at the track day company which helped. Also doing it in a 120bhp MR2 helped my cause, rather than something completely ridiculous.
The only other way is if you do it in a race car designed for use in one of the series for young drivers, eg Ginetta Juniors or SaxMax.
Being 14, I don't think you'll be able to do it. If you're keen to get behind the wheel at that age, try here: www.U17CC.org I did that for about 3 years and drove over 50 cars, met loads of people and got to freqently drive around Castle Combe at high speed.
The only other way is if you do it in a race car designed for use in one of the series for young drivers, eg Ginetta Juniors or SaxMax.
Being 14, I don't think you'll be able to do it. If you're keen to get behind the wheel at that age, try here: www.U17CC.org I did that for about 3 years and drove over 50 cars, met loads of people and got to freqently drive around Castle Combe at high speed.
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Jeremy Clarkson. F1 cars with rocket-launchers and flamethrowers is the way forward!
Good stuff, glad you enjoyed it. Those Focii do well on track, we took ours on a day at Castle Combe a while back and managed to keep pace with some pretty quick stuff. We did completely strip it though, from the front two seats backwards there was nothing, not even carpet 
Brands probably suits the car even better, the power defecit not being quite so much of an issue as it would be at other faster tracks, except perhaps on the way up to Druids!
Brands probably suits the car even better, the power defecit not being quite so much of an issue as it would be at other faster tracks, except perhaps on the way up to Druids!
Team RAC reigned supreme in the first two races, they both looked pretty untouchable. Gio did his usual brilliant drive by working his way up the field. The rain in race 3 really shook things up, felt sorry for O'Neill having to pull off as thought he stood a decent chance of winning. When Gio and Thomo went side-to-side for a couple of corners until Gio got past, that was brilliant, really shows why those two are champs.
In Bruges, brilliant film, very funny at times too. Go watch it.
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