Have a look in the dedicated server (setup.cfg). Towards the end is logging facility.

Noticed the "Warning: Another instance running" message has come back?

Any reason for this. It wasn't in W38-W39

Quote from CyCo :

i used a friend's account today....

His friends name is "Crack".

Quote from kiss me :

hi!
i have done all the things that are needed and i can still not set up lfs lapper,
any1 who is willing to help?
via ftp or so, that some1 can set everything up??
pm me

For a start you might want to mention what you have tried/done and include any error messages. (debug)

LFS already does this to a certain extent. It's a fine line... Kicking laggers vs LFS netcode being blamed for dropouts.

The other problem is the nature of the Netcode being a mix of central and peer 2 peer.

How do you measure the lag? Between players where it counts, or to/from the server where it's less important unless players are proxied via it.

"Set max connection latency or TTL to prevent teleporters from hindering other racers." is already mentioned in the list.The InSim idea is a good one. Have more detailed connection info could open up other possibilites for mods.

thanks.... looks promising.

BTW Scawen is creating a server side custom menu/button interface extension to InSim. So you might want to look into that as well.

For more info see the InSim thread in the Programmers section.

Can someone post a screen grab? I don't have LFS here, but are interested.

W9-W17 have InSim updates that break LFSLapper, as stated in the above posts.

The newInSim uses TCP and UDP and allows multiple InSim connections as apposed to the older version that only allowed a single UDP InSim connection.

Hang tight. The LFSLapper developers are waiting for the last inSim updates (when version X is released) before updating LFSLapper.

Quote from Macfox :

Fair call. I'll wait

FYI ETA for next version.

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=408854#post408854

Quote from Scawen :

I will do those small InSim changes I've mentioned and give you a hopefully final InSim version this week. But the changes will be small :

Change MSHT times to milliseconds
Add elapsed time to LAP / SPX
Allow >1 UDP connection
127.x.x.x no password required
Small documentation bug

Can we clarify the 127.0.0.1 no password situation.

Currently InSim listens on the specified IP or 0.0.0.0, thus what's being proposed is the checking the source IP is 127.0.0.1 and ignoring any password, yes?

I'm not sure this is really a good idea. It's going to cause security problems for hosters (such as myself and many others) that run multiple LFS instances on the same server (IP) under different security contexts for different admins.

If anything it would be better to have a dedicated InSim password IMHO.

Just my 2c anyway.
Rob

Scawen, is InSim likely to change again before X is out?

Several of the mod developers are holding off updates.

Fair call. I'll wait

Any update in regards to the new Insim packets?

Current version doesn't work with v0.5W17

Quote from Cue-Ball :

Yes, but it would be much more helpful to see "Winds out of the Southwest at 10mph" or something along those lines. Also, eventually LFS will have track temp, air temp, etc. modeled (at least, we all hope so). There's no way to tell how warm it is just by looking at the track.

AFAIK, Wind direction isn't displayed anywhere at all. Might be due to the fact track direction isn't either. (No North reference) I guess this is where the flags, trees, smoke give the best reference.

Quote from Cue-Ball :

Because there are so many different layouts for each track, it can become quite confusing. I've been playing this game for something like two years now, and I still don't know which layout is which. It would be very helpful if we could easily see that we're on Aston National Reverse at any time, so that if we change cars we can easily pick the right setup. It's not practical to expect users to remember every single track layout. This will be especially true when/if we get more tracks or additional layouts.

I think the track/layout is now displayed in the setup window for reference. (This was only recently added, if I recall)

Quote from Cue-Ball :

I would not want to see this. I would really like to see this information displayed on a tab or overlay instead. To me, LFS will be best when it gets to the point that nothing is displayed across the screen unless you specifically want it to. For instance, getting rid of the "Yellow Flag" text and putting in track marshals waving flags would be a huge first step. Removing the lap times that pop up, and substituting them with a virtual pit board of some type would be another improvement. I think we need fewer things popping up on screen, not more of them.

Agreed, we need less clutter. But adding marshals is probably low on the priority list. However it's a direction I'd like to see LFS go.

That said IMO all these are really client based preferences/functions, so I'm leaning away from adding them to the list. The original idea was to extend the server message display time, if I recall, so I'll add that.

Don't the trees and the flags indicate wind?

Track and Layout are really covered by the minimap, however I guess they could be displayed as text somewhere.

Pitstop rules should be displayed at start of race IMO and as a flashup message close to pit windows.

Updated list to reflect W9 and W10 new features.

Added/Updated :

Multi Level Admin's with configurable access.

* Marshalls password would be alternative admin password. /Marshallspassword=<password>
* /Marshalls=<playername1>,<playername2>,<playername3 >...
* Command bitfield in cfg to dictate available commands
/Marshallcommands=00110101 ;allow restart,kick,change track+cars)
/Marshallscommands=CanEndRace,CanSetCars,CanSetTrac k,CanBanPlayer,CanGivePenalty,CanSpectate,CanKick. ..

Connection List to indicate Admin (level) status.

Last edited by Macfox, Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:24.

A RCM message with some type of confirmation countdown would probably do before a restart. Confirm start or be spectated. Yes? That would solve the grid sleepers.

Quote from birder :

1) Autokick after x minutes

We need an option that automatically kicks spectators who are just saving their place

As our server is often full we now get players who logon and have a couple of races then spectate for several hours as if they are reserving thier place. Even when you ask them in chat why they do it they dont answer as they are AFK.

On one day we had 6 people doing this so only 17 could ever enter the race. I kick them anyway and the places a filled up with players who want to race but its a pain having to do it.

I was thinking of a setting that kicked players with no action for X minutes so say this was set to 60, at 60 minutes if they had not been in a race they are kicked automatically, after all they can rejoin.

2) Restart after x seconds

On a full server when a race ends you get this constant "Shift+R" restart messages until their are enough votes, we need a setting that restarts automatically after X seconds once a race finished

#1 and #2 can be acheived already with inSIM.

I've added #1.

#2 Has already been discussed before, if my memory serves me right. It was heavily debated, particularily on the point it would cause more problems with idle players, just sitting on the grid and not racing. Not an easy problem to solve. But definely something an inSim mod could do, by adding the necessary logic to spectate everyone after each race and then have an auto restart of some sort.

Last edited by Macfox, Wed, 4 Apr 2007 00:53.

Good option for competitions. I've wished I had that option at a few LAN comps. A few of the drivers had DL setups which gave ~.5sec a lap advantage. Made it difficult for newcomers to compete.

Quote from felplacerad :

...im running a number of servers from the same directory....

Good idea. We need an "include" directive in the setup.cfg, so common configurations can be set across multiple servers.

/include=allservers.cfg

Quote from felplacerad :

Mac,

Limit Reset Car availability. *Will be released in next update: This feature is still not fully implemented.
Allow admin to end qualification early: Possible in V3 and later.
Always allow admin to connect as spectator even if full: Possible in V3 and later. (Well, sort of. check out /adminslots)

1. I guess it will be released in the next incompatable patch (X)
2 & 3. Thanks. Updated. Just seen this in the W update!. All great news and show the devs are open to some of our ideas.

Quote from Venus :

I'd like something to be added please.

The ability for the host to define a standard setup that all have to use. It would be a nice equaliser. It would also simply solve alot of those arguments going on in the http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=21095
thread.

V

Already in list... Yes?

Enforced setups. Lock to default/standard/factory setup or lock out particular setup changes.

Quote from Venus :

Hi,

Something I think should be considered to be added for servers, is to allow players not only to choose the track they want, but also the cars they want and have it restricted to just that car during that session. Currently, if you select all the cars, they can race any one they like. It'd be nice if they select a car, they all drive that car.

Thanks

Ven

Added

Quote from Venus :

No, its when you are in a server, or in single player, in a race. For no reason, it just drops to windows (as if I've pressed Alt Tab) and I've not touched the keyboard (using my joystick). Its really very annoying, and I can't see why its doing it.

Another thing. I have mine set to full screen. But it seems whether its full screen or windowed when I load it, is a lottery. I'd love that fixed too pls.

Venus

I'd lodge a bug report, if it's not already reported. Definitely a client thing though.

Quote from Venus :

Well, ok in leagues I can see it as a legitimage issue. However, in the public servers. It could ruin our fun, and drastically reduce the number of servers if alot of servers change over to wheel only. I dunno, add a league thing or something that allows leagues to do it, but not in public. As I said, adding in discrimination because of a persons financial resources sux, and that is the issue. Everyone would love a good wheel, but not all of us can afford it. I'd hate to think I bought your product, only to be locked out of servers cause of this.

Agreed that wouldn't be ideal. Definitely a league think IMO, but this thread is about everyones suggestions not just mine, so enuff from me on the topic.

On the minimising topic. Is this a client thing? Like when it connects/server list tec. If so there's an option already to stop that. It needed for possible firewall/Internet connection dialogs that popup in the background on first sign of internet traffic.