Looks like these are 110 pages of nothing since we don't what's the progress of the development or the things they are hopefully working on.
A thread that has no topic to discuss about has no meaning to exist and i think this is the case.

Ok, a picture from my last year's trip to London (this is Greenwich actually) .

Last edited by IlGuercio, Sat, 18 Sep 2010 01:34.

Quote from CodieMorgan :

Mind if I stir things up a bit? I see an opportunity here...

Things are already stirred, very...

Quote from zeugnimod :

You must not be on this forum (or on IRC) a lot if you want to suggest that Victor doesn't show any "signs of life".

In fact i'm not, surely much less than you are.
So? What's your point, doctor, will i survive?
There is something i can't stand about all this stuff going on, or rather not going on, so i come back from time to time and see if something has changed.
But, looks like i have, like you, been waiting for nothing so far.
The truth is that an experiment like this, where the developers are in strict contacts with the buyers and players, would have required a better effort in communication from the developers side since we're not talking to a corporate but to a tiny group of friends. Again, the management of the community has been so minimal that the only official race was that LX week years ago (correct me if i'm wrong) which looks like a bit of a joke since LFS is (maybe was) a popular and good simulator. Something should have changed when everything went from being known by a bunch of people to be played even by 14 years old guys which post like they are texting.
Everyone has come to the conclusione that THEY could have given LFS a different and more serious attitude than it has but looks like THEY are perfectly fine with their attitude. I mean, 2 years for a car to be released (maybe 2, who knows) ? And still i don't know how it is possibile for Scawen to know what he's doing if he doesn't know how much is there to correct in the tyre physics (since he says he can't give us an estimate about the residual work) .
Now let your usual "it's their game and they work as slow as they want and blah blah blah" since looks like some of you can't really write down a post that isn't a copy of what is between the quotes.

Quote from zeugnimod :

15

15 posts are still 15 if they differ from each other in some way.
Since this hasn't happened so far and the only thing i could read was "i do whatever i want and bla bla bla" i would consider Scawen as thou he hasn't still said anything about the development of the new stuff.
He says they're working on stuff but not only he's the only one to rarely appear among mortals when there should be two other developers at work, he's not able to give us an estimate of the progression of the improvements.
Thing is i don't keep my simulator in a closet until i can't get people who play it to get killed when they crash into a wall at 200 mph. There should be a checkpoint that once hit allows me to show what i was doing in my basement for a whole couple of years.This aura of incredible elitenes he's trying to give to his work sounds more like an excuse not to say the real truth.

Quote from DeKo :

I was thinking backwards to this, would be good to put NKpro tracks into the Ferrari simulator, would make it worth buying

In fact i was quickly disappointed with the FVA pack. 15 euros for hotlapping in a F10 on Fiorano?

Does anybody know if Fiorano can be transplanted to NK Pro?

Any chance that we can get Fiorano to work on NK Pro fiddling with its files?

Still nothing?

This is getting ridicolous

It' been an hour i'm trying to register and download the stuff but looks like the site is under hacker attack.
Can't go past the registration form, i don't know why, it tries to go past but leaves me on a blank page.
Has any of you got a bit more luck?

Mikko,you should have used one or two flashes to get a correct exposure in that picture.

Quote from michele0676 :

Last week i was in Imola track and i did launch with Stefano Casillo (Kunos).
I say that in september we'll see some good news.
Stefano talk about trento-bordone and Osella cars, (with honda 2 liter 240 cv).
Nice news !

"Good news,the Dac..." ah no,this is something else.
Nice to hear Stefano has something boiling into the pot for us,let's see if this wakes up somebody i know.

Quote from richo :

There is a difference in that you don't print your plans on a website , and i,m sure your aware that when something is made public no matter how pie in the sky people will make the assumption that in some way it will happen or at least you will try to make it happen.

That is the situation that MacFox is talking about , and he is right there is no need to split hairs because we knew exactly what he was saying.

I find it so odd that we debate black is white over and over.

Big quote.
Looks like someone is really happy with analyzing the situation from a legal point of view.
In fact legally they owe us nothing,and you guys are right saying we don't have ti expect anything.
But,since this is more than a commercial game made to build an infinite stack of euros and was characterised by the constant developers reports(demonstrating an interest for what the users want to see and play),i think some of us are right saying that,from a friendly point of view,someone did either lie or not tell the real truth.
I prefectly understand that devs have a life and bla bla bla but a community can't live on promises written on a page and never finished(so far).
I can't take them to the court,that's for sure,but i don't have the best opinion about them either.

Quote from richo :

He is right though , the only signs of life is that the servers are not empty and people still post in this forum .

The signs of life are that the users are still active , i have said it before if your first point of contact with LFS was the official web site how could you not conclude that the sim essentially is over and out?

Would you upon looking at the date of the last update (thats website update) was years ago even bother downloading the trial or heading to the forums?

And before everyone jumps in and rips what i have said to shreds i am not asking for anything or whining about content .

Nice point.
If a community has to live JUST upon its users while seeing its creators doing everything but spending time on the game then i think there's really very little to joy about.
And before you jump on me i say it's perfectly fine if they want to stop,i just pretend they had the decency to tell.

Whoever did that should have used the other 2 buttons to type "24/24" in

This happened(real screenshot):




It already got mended up

No one saw the lemans.org site getting hacked?

Quote from DeadWolfBones :

The prices have already been released, so it seems pretty damn likely.

899 Euro, I believe.

A bit pricey for me,too bad the Samyang is MF,it's ok with the 14mm but on a bright medium telephoto you have to constantly adjust the focus ring not to talk about the ridicolous size of viewfinders in APS-C camers.

Got myself a 70-200 APO EX HSM for Christmas(can't remember if i already said it) and just bought a 24-70 EX DG MACRO.Im pretty fine with the aperture now,next purchase will probably be a 14mm f/2.8 by Samyang.
I just hope Sigma puts into the market that damn 85 f/1.4.

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Restart your computer?!

You know what?I did it and it works
I love the FTarget
Thanks guys,it was the stupidest issue on earth...

Thanks,but i've already done these things.
Why did it work properly a bunch of days ago and now it's all screwed up?

Just updated the graphic drivers and it's the same as before...
I sent a mail to the nk support,let's see what they suggest.

I used to play the demo a couple of months ago.
Then,in december or november,the Abarth demo came out and i installed it because it featured the 500 Abarth.
Since i knew that version wasn't the full one i downloaded the 1.1 from the nkpro site and installed it.
NOW i can't play anymore,and it's very weird.
What's more laptopvideo2go seems pretty slow for me now.
I need that .inf file nowwwwwww

Quote from dawesdust_12 :

Update your graphics drivers.

The weird thing is that i played the MTV Abarth demo flawlessly and i played the normal demo as well before yesterday.
Then i bought my license,downloaded the v1.1 from the site and suddenly it doesn't go through the loading screen anymore.
I will try to update the drivers,i'll let you know.Thanks

I just bought NKpro and i already have a problem.
I start a practice session and when it comes to loading the shadow.nko file it doesn't go any further.

Quote from lizardfolk :

That this is how games die...it's a common death for millions of online based games before and it will be the #1 cause of death for the majority of online based games in the future and LFS is not immune to this.



I'm sure Nexon didn't intend to release Shattered Galaxy without any major updates for over 3 years. I'm sure Webzen didn't intent to keep Soul of the Ultimate nation in beta for over 1 year. I'm sure Blizzard intended to release Starcraft: Ghost. I'm sure 3D Realms intended to release Duke Nukem Forever someday.

Fact is, most of these cases as well as millions of others are cases where the developers have decided that they "did enough" or did not need to do more and the game died as a result. (shall I quote more? Space Cowboy Online (AirRivals), Rakion, Scion of Fate.) The devs HAVE to realize that the sim community is not necessarily that different from the MMO or the rest of the online gaming community.

Yes, the sim community will value quality engine and gameplay more than graphics compared to the average online gamer. But fact is, stagnant updating (if unbroken) will be the death of LFS just like all those other games.

Yes, I realize that it's only 3 people. Yes, I realize that they are recreating the physics engine for the Scirocco. But if this is delayed for any longer than half to 2 years. LFS will loose it's glory and the community will move on eventually. Maybe a few hardcore veterans will wait forever...but that will signify a game's death when there's no other group of players in LFS.

Of course this may not be anybodies' fault. The devs aren't a part of a mass company and they may have gained lives over the course of LFS. if that's the case, then LFS development will be excruciatingly slow...the same thing happens when a company adopts more than 1 MMORPG to develop. The result will usually be the death for the game but you cant really blame the LFS devs. It's just a fact of gaming really. Games come and go, rarely games last more than 5 years let alone 10. if it does, just enjoy it while it last.

I dont see myself as a nomad gamer. But the current state of online pc gaming has forced me to put things into perspective. When the time comes, I will move on and so will the rest of the non-hardcore LFS community (if that hasnt happened already). The devs better realize that the reason is the stagnant update and they can do something about it if they really cared about fixing this problem.

Oh...and just an FYI, Huxley (another Webzen game SURPRISE!) was due out in 2006 summer...I'm still currently waiting for it to get out of open beta Seriously research that game, all the info, shots and video will be from 2006 and it still isn't released yet LOL. Is it a surprise that no one cares about that game anymore? (yet i'm still waiting for it)

This post needs to be quoted...
I agree with you,it may not be anybody's fault but the fact is the development is becoming slower and slower.