What can also help is compression. I noticed that more then 50% of bandwidth can be saved with compression (zip). But, I think this is actually already happening and LFS is unpacking the mods download after download. On older machines this can cause more network delay then desired. Use less compression or start unpacking after all downloads are completed?

Quote from Scawen :

Thanks. One question: If you use D20 and click to download a mod, do you get the yellow chat message "Redirect : JP" in LFS?

No! I am using D21 but I do not see any yellow message although it clearly redirects to JP if I watch the freeware CurrPorts tool (run as admin to see packet and size data)

Because the feedback is too slow to my liking I started myself with experiments;

https://streamable.com/hb2y8f (this video gets removed over time.. 90 days I believe, free account)

The problem is I do not get across 1.5 Mbit/sec unless I start multiple testbin downloads out of Australia in different browsers and dif[..]

update: Hmm interesting "cmd" netsh int tcp set global autotuninglevel=normal seems to fix this 1.5 Mbit limitation problem. I disabled this autotuninglevel during earlier testing (I think).

https://streamable.com/evmp70 => a lot faster, although notice it needs to setup a new connection for every mod and this costs the most time and is inefficient. Try https://curl.se/libcurl/c/10-at-a-time.html or https://curl.se/libcurl in general if you like to improve this bit.

Last edited by cargame.nl, Sat 29 Apr 2023, 01:05.

Quote from detail :

Give me please European server IP, to test it too. (And Turkish, if possible.)

LeaseWeb is not i3D.net but download speeds should be tested like this;

https://kb.leaseweb.com/network/link-speeds

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Hmm funny i3D has it too;

Hong Kong: http://hkhkg1-cache1.sys.i3d.network/
Poland Warsaw: http://188.122.80.54/
Russia Moscow: http://188.122.82.54/
Netherlands Hengelo: http://5.200.31.254/
Netherlands Rotterdam: http://mirror.i3d.net/1000mb.bin (for some reason cannot find webpage)
US Chicago: http://138.128.140.54/
Australia Sydney: http://109.200.215.214/

This is what I quickly could find with Google, I am sure there is more but for now it should be OK I think to test?

If you can outperform LFS with a browser download then most probably the problem is LFS itself but first there needs to be proof for that.

I spend serious time today fiddling around with TcpAckFrequency and other TCP parameters in W10 but it seems to be stuck .. Which annoys me, primarily because every change needs a complete system restart (ppff).

Couldn't improve in-game patch 6R to 7D (35 Mb) download speed from Perth, Australia by using my paid VPN provider. It stayed around 1-2 Mbit download speed, noticeable far slower compared to a more "local" connection.

Going to try it with a Linux client although I am not sure if Wine actually uses the Linux kernel/TCP settings or does some Winsock emulation on top of it.

Otherwise need to fall back to some Win7 install or something, sigh. With this kind of operating system bugs I wonder how much influence third party programs can have on the whole situation.

Quote from Scawen :

In case any TCP gurus are reading, I have only set one socket option on the HTTP receive socket. The rest I have left at default

I am no guru but is TCP_NODELAY on?

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31997648/where-do-i-set-tcp-nodelay-in-this-c-tcp-client

Its to switch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagle%27s_algorithm off

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

As I said earlier, both in Ukraine and in Russia there are some Nazis, (And in almost all countries) they are also in the military structures of Ukraine and Russia. But for some reason you are focusing only on Ukrainian... I find this very strange.

You find this very strange, well, my money goes to funding this total scum while I don't want to. The prime minister of my country said its even FAMILY. Wtactualf. How strange is that sounding to you?

If you would keep very close attention on what my focus is, then I am not focusing on this at all. Some other person here brought a symbol ... Well its not even a symbol but anyway.. Someone elses attention is on it which is actually the extreme narrow view what a lot of people have. This narrow point of view is being narrowed by mass media and the UA propaganda machine.

Back to the main question you have, should people be hated, excluded from sports, tourism, be on this planet, bullied, dehumanized just because of their nationality or race? No! Ofcourse not, where in history this ever leaded to good results?

Quote from ACCAkut :

It's you, the Russian population

this is disgusting

I stick with that, nothing to say anymore in this topic.

Last edited by cargame.nl, Tue 20 Sep 2022, 10:14.

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

I looked, there are only pro-Russian posts: scary Azov, Ukraine bobming Donetsk, classic kiselev's "8 years" takes... this exactly is what I called propaganda. It does not even smell like journalism. There is enough of this in the Russian media.

It's a UK war (photo)journalist which was actually there (he is now back in London for the moment).

So you call this propaganda, right, well... Thats your opinion then.

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

This symbol

Ye, whatever.. Hyped by Germans mostly. There is a different symbol today appearing for the fifth million time or something. Any idea what it is, or maybe this knowledgeable ACC..

Never mind, its the Totenkopf SS nazi symbol. => https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62899474 (video)

Good luck with focusing on some silly Z's.

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

Yes, it was just like you said. But what is "propaganda"? I understand propaganda as a intentionally biased presentation of information from the media. (Lie, half-truths, showing only one side of the truth when in fact there is another)

But you also show only one side of the truth here.

Maybe it's okay to tell only one side of a person who knows nothing about it. But in this message, I just don’t understand then how to separate you from someone who has heard enough of propaganda.

I do not want to write book essays about it because its a waste of time and it gives the dictatorial powers here tools to go the Putin way (again). It only shows that LFS 0.7 goes down the drain (who wants to host their server by a ruling Putin-style power :s , if anything being said or done what you do not like you start to lock up people for months. Nuts.)

But anyway... Propaganda.. Propaganda is writing whole 'news' stories from UA sources and then ending it in the last paragraph with an almost hidden line of text: "this information could not be verified". Most people do not read that far into an article or do not even know what it implies. This is the daily receipt for months already and this UA-clown even started to give medals to foreign "journalists" for their "work". Journalists are also not journalists anymore in the west. Just hardly grown up kids with a laptop and extensive ctrl-C/ctrl-V training. For a journalist, look at my current avatar.

Quote from ACCAkut :

...how stupid do you think I or anyone else could be?

All I see is a German who wants to do a exclusion of a complete population. This has been done before in history. Olympic Games in Germany organized by Hitler 1936.

Some decades later: "Wir haben es nicht gewusst!"

This Z has not any value or do you think that showing white doves is also fascistic all of a sudden. Exclusion, apartheid, blaming whole population is one of the cornerstones of fascism. What you are writing is disgusting.

If anyone wonders why cargame.nl still responds, its because he has his principles.

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

The fact is that I communicate with foreign players mainly only in LFS and discord servers dedicated to the game.
I see how the level of xenophobia and discrimination against Russians has increased many times. I often see people saying "I hate Russians", "Russian monkeys" and so on.
As an absolutist of the right to freedom of speech, I want to give these people a platform to speak out, to understand what led them to this, and why they have such positions. So that they could express their positions in detail and meaningfully without insults and excessive emotions, so that a meaningful discussion could be born.

It's propaganda, daily bombardment of lies, twisted stories and social media group forming.

I do not hate Russians, I hate stupid people. And there are lot of them lately, it appears that the majority had no education at all or at least skipped some history lessons.

Quote from ACCAkut :

trusts the TV more than her own child.

yeah, way to many people doing that, it's sick

Quote from ACCAkut :

we see Russian kids forming Z-symbols on propaganda photos that look awfully similar to those we have in our history text books about the 1930s...

Right.. you are watching the wrong photos.

Maybe that flag needs some clarification. Its the Ukrainian Insurgent Army flag. It stands for ultra right nationalism and can be classified as worse as nazism or even worse then that. It represents genocide

I can tell more but most people of your type are complete deaf/blind. I really wonder how thats possible!

Quote from Aleksandr_124rus :

[..] Dutchman, [..]
Before all these events, when Americans or even some Europeans were asked to show Ukraine on the map, they could not show anything, or

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_Airlines_Flight_17 (downed by older type of BUK rocket, only been left in service @Ukrainian army according to Dutch safety board)

-and-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Dutch_Ukraine–European_Union_Association_Agreement_referendum

Do I need to explain this as well? I went voting myself and I voted against. The reason of voting against is precisely because I already suspected what was going to happen, which is happening now!

So do you still think its a joke that some Dutchmen is involved in a discussion about Ukraine? My personal inner circle already drove to the PL/UA border twice and back to get and arrange personal shelter for refugees. I think its quite risky as I personally do not fully trust these type of people but on the other hand who can be trusted nowadays. This is the bigger LFS-type of question. Before you know it you get canceled because you do not have a mainstream opinion in the *cough* free *cough* west.

Quote from Scawen :

but post a link to a massive wikipedia page. You could, for example, make a couple of points about what point you are trying to make, instead of being so lazy.

Lazy? Seriously? You are going to say that? Let me clear my eyes. Yes, its seriously written by you. What a retarded insult is this.

First of all, its barely three pages. How do you react when you see a book?

Lazy. Posting a propaganda Hollywood video of Schwarzenegger, thats what I call truely lazy. This is insane and hilarious at the same time too. Now I know for sure that any time on LFS would be a total waste, thanks for this great comment.

My last sentence is not really cryptic. Ukraine is not a football club where everyone is of the same team. Ukraine is recently formed but its a mixture of Kiev(Rus)-Polish-Lithuanian-Greek and some small other 'nationalities'. It's being approached by the mass as it has one culture, like its one centuries old nation. Its not. Wake up. Read more, watch less propaganda videos. Realize its bigger then Great Britain where you even have your little old conflicts with Northern Ireland and the Scottish do not team up that well also lately. Try to see a broader perspective.

I wonder if you can detect the Schwarzenegger propaganda at all. Do you really think that video was made for the Russians? Lol. Its for the silly naive American. Meanwhile driving around in his eco car in a state which was totally made bankrupt. (its the one on the top, to be clear).

Advice; delete Twitter

Last edited by cargame.nl, Wed 6 Apr 2022, 22:26.

Quote from bishtop :

It was annexed in 1939 from poland !

not really.


https://rumble.com/vzawjr-ukraine-on-fire-bad-subs.html

Quote from bishtop :

Ukraine is Ukraine

Awesome wisdoms.

Quote from bishtop :

not Russia.

If you are that interested in culture, history, "family" , roots.. Start here;

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27

But for some reason I think you re not. I get the impression you are rooting for a football club. This is not a football club.

Seen a s.load of video's by now which genuinely cannot be verified but most video's from Patrick Lancaster look real. Or there are all of a sudden a whole pack of top of the bill actors discovered.

What is with this talking about Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine all the time? What actually is "Ukraine?". One nation you think? How was it formed? Its only three times bigger then Great Britain.

Quote from bishtop :

You assume

wrong again, I am just telling some personal experience. You are the one making assumptions out of it.

And this is the key element in this topic, assumptions. Stop making them and you get somewhere. This is leading to nowhere.

This for example;

Quote :

Has anyone mentioned of the forced deportations of mariupol citizens into camps by Russia,

Assumption. All based on this corrupt city mayor. If you cannot see that there is a constant stream of lies coming from that area its better to turn off this stream of information and focus on your own work expertise (whatever that may be) instead of starting to chant all kind of weird stuff which has nothing to do with your own culture.

Last edited by cargame.nl, Mon 28 Mar 2022, 13:46.

Quote from bishtop :

How does saying "Slava Ukraini" relate to "Heil Hitler" ?

First hit on Google, read about it before you start to copy someone elses narrative

Quote from bishtop :

the same as i wouldn't read any news on any government or state owned media sources.

agreed, watch someone reporting who is actually there; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6LQSYmda0Sc just 9 minutes.

I was there myself exactly a year ago, driving through complete Ukraine with my own car. Experienced sadly enough enough "atmosphere". Especially in the south and quite weird in the northeast. I don't know what happened in the Chernihiv area (historically speaking) but its not 'normal' how people interact there. I wouldn't trust some people from the Ukraine, let alone call it family (idiotic prime minister said this). It's quite ridicilous that a majority of western people are all of a sudden pro Ukraine while most didn't know where it was located in the years before. Let alone know anything of the culture, history and especially what happened from 2014 onwards.

I have another little thing to think about;



'Nuff said.

Last edited by cargame.nl, Mon 28 Mar 2022, 00:13.

Quote from bishtop :

I could be totally wrong,

not could be, assumptions are the mother of all ****ups. The goal was never stated to conquer. The Twitter keyboard warriors made that out of it.

Quote from bishtop :

Slava Ukraini !

Heil Hitler? Just another fascist greeting.

Quote from Scawen :

Thanks for the testing!

Hmm OK.. I finally would like to know where this appalling lighting (?) is coming from because every time I get confronted with LFS this disturbance also shows up reminding me to stay away from LFS.. Its especially being seen on the track decorations but also on the road surface



what setting do I need to change? It alrready shows up when I am standing still and turning the steering wheel.

This only happens @LFS ... When I am for example moving/looking around @CS.GO everything is fine.

Last edited by cargame.nl, Sat 27 Feb 2021, 12:49.

observation: If you are willing to cheat training sessions then you do not understand the purpose of training sessions

well. thats what you get with steering wheels on the wrong side. Difficult to sell to economies which are less hurt by the newest crisis.

seen these kind of images twelve years ago also but I think it's a bit more permanent this time.

But the video shows small GTR style cars on gravel. Selection of tires @LFS is ranging from 165-215 already? Rallycross in the big GTR class is a funny bonus but not a real life situation or am I missing a competition?

Quote :

In Graphics or Misc options (in-game) click car icon then 'P'
You can now see CPU usage for Physics, Draw, Prediction, etc.

not trying to delay this patch release but I am wondering if this feature could fairly easily be extended by showing GPU load percentage as well? I am not into C++ programming at all but there is something called D3DKMT_QUERYSTATISTICS_PROCESS_NODE being used in for example a tool called "process hacker" ( https://github.com/processhacker/processhacker/blob/master/plugins/ExtendedTools/gpumon.c )

seems to work pretty reliable. The reason I ask this is, is that it maybe also helps debugging any performance problems in development during the other ongoing bigger patch development?

What about a keyboard shortcut to toggle this debug overlay? Maybe I put too much importance in this feature but I am quite convinced it helps people to improve their driving experience.

Quote from THE WIZARD DK :

especially armcos are dreadful to look at ingame. my mip sliders are fully right and that does ALOT to the image.

I knew about this MIPS setting already, I just find it odd that if I switch from GPU on the same machine, keeping the same LFS settings... The "superior" Nvidia outputs a worse image while the device driver has everything for LFS being set on "application controlled". This shimmering has no relation to this patch, although its an high annoyance, it's always been there throughout the years. I expect the upcoming big update has some positive effect on this as well.

I was just surprised to see how busy the CPU is with "Draw" in case a GPU is used which cannot cope with the demand and this gets totally "fixed" when switching to a better performing GPU. Or further limiting (100->60) the FPS what I've just learned. I was assuming graphics chips by default almost offloads any CPU of everything related to graphics but apparently you can still overload the CPU as ignorant computer user with incorrect graphics settings. Only thing I know from other games/sims is that FXAA is done by CPU. But LFS doesnt have a FXAA setting.

Last edited by cargame.nl, Fri 19 Feb 2021, 16:03.

Quote from Scawen :

That is only a waste of energy. Frame rate should either be limited to a set value or vertical sync should be used. There is no point in extremely high frame rates,

Hmm it was capped on 100 fps (to be in sync with physics) a value which couldnt be reached with the on-board GPU in openX mode (non open layout is probably a different story). Interestingly CPU usage(/Draw) massively drops if I set it on 60 fps. So, if I understand correctly the CPU gets overloaded if the system gets a request for a FPS value which it can never achieve. I wonder if this situation can be automatically detected and can produce a warning as only a few people are being busy with this CPU/GPU nerding

Quote from Scawen :

Please save some energy and heat

well.. this building is heated by electricity so this doesnt really make much of a difference. Need to wait some weeks before sun starts to do its work but I do get the point.

One thing to still figure out is why there is still so much "shimmering" going on (barriers), even flickering textures.. In external GPU mode. I only now noticing the internal GPU producing a much smoother image. But this is patch unrelated.

This small little CPU debug thing is very helpful in understanding hardware/configuration limits, liking it!

Last edited by cargame.nl, Thu 18 Feb 2021, 10:42.

Quote from gu3st :

What is with all these people coming in here with GPUs that they found bundled inside a box of cereal wondering why they perform terribly.

Being with a laptop on the move (currently in Montenegro) is far more practical then walking around with a "gaming rig".

Stay on topic or get the fck out.