Hi Cawwa

The first post says

Quote :

20 randomly chosen registered racers will be emailed and invited to complete in 2, 10 lap races each with a pit, one after the other so it should take less than 40 minutes. The grid will be random so you can blame LFS if you are at the back. Each race will score the the same points as the league and the highest scores (added together) will go into D1, the next into D2 and so on down to D5

So i think you may have missed the word invited

Racers will only get 2 10 lap races to qualify and the points from these will decide which division they go in however i quite like the idea of yours to just let people turn up as it would be far less work.

But can you imagine the arguments....

Sorry to open this up again

I am running 2 servers and this problem is now showing itself up on one of them

This server "[CD] ConeDodgers Racing" is always busy bit I have noticed that its only happens when the server is full or almost full and never when there are say 15 racers on

If this is client related should it not happen all the time?

If you have registered you should have now had an email explaining that all information is in the Members Area on the site.

This area need a password to enter and will be updated when there is any news.

Everyone has now been contacted by email

Today is the last day to join the LFS: GTR League. At midnight last night 65 people had registered of the maximum 100 we can take.

If you are interested goto the ConeDodgers website

This fun league is based around races at Aston National

Information also in the league section

Thanks

Quote from nikimere :

have u tried putting 3 passengers in the faster car and see if it slows it down? i should slow it a bit, but maybe not enough... give it a go.

It may work but a racing car with passengers looks so stupid dont you think

Quote from Turbo Dad :

Thought the FZR was harder to drive consistently? , each car have there positives and negitives, some eating tyres more than others etc.I think that they are pretty balanced

I think i will have to agree with you on this on.

I have tried to work out a system using the WR time but that make the points time related rather than just coming first.

Most driver do not go at 110% if they are a long way ahead.

In the week starting on Oct 16th 06 the first qualifyers for the LFS: GTR League will be run. Details in the league section or join at www.conedodgers.co.uk

From all who have joined so far, several ask the same question, that is as the FZR is that much faster than the FXO and XRR how can i make it fairer.

In the real world slower cars have to run with faster cars and to be fair i see a lot of FXO and XRR's winning races but not qualifying. If the FXO was faster than the FZR would we all not use it.

What we need is a handicap system and i am sure the devs are aware of that, but at the moment there is not one in LFS.

My question is does anyone have a good idea of a workable handicap system that can be used in the new league.

Hi

As we are having so many people on the server i set Lapper to only record if you beat 1.46.

Your best laps on LFSW are slower than this but you are not far away.

If you still want to join goto the website and register. Hopefully by the start you will be below 1.46.

Practice, Practice, Practice

URGENT INFORMATION

We need your help to decide the best way to sort out qualifiers.
Please do not post here but goto the League section to get all the details and post is that section

http://www.lfsforum.net/forumdisplay.php?f=75

Thanks

Live for Speed GTR League – Aston National

For all those drivers who have registered and those not yet registered but would like to take part

IMPORTANT INFORMATION.

Since last Saturday (30/9/06) the [CD] Conedodgers Racing server has been recording each racers fastest lap and these can be seen on the website at /conedodgers/stats.html

Although doing a single fast lap in no way says that the driver is a great racer over a race distance it was thought that it would give us a method of grading drivers to see which division they will be in for the new league.

The LFS: GTR League will race our new private server which will be found under [CD] ConeDodgers Racing 2. Anyone using this server must be a competent driver and poor driving or causing a nuisance will not be acceptable.

The password will be sent to anyone who registers on the website in an email giving you access to the server when it is not being used for the league. Anyone who has not registered for the league that is found on the server will get an instant ban so please register as soon as you can.

During the first 5 days of the [CD] ConeDodgers Racing server going live 575 racers recorded times below 2 minutes, 373 of these were below 1.46 (1.45.99 or lower) and with this in mind we think its fair to say that if you cannot do a lap below 1.46 your should practice both offline and in online races on our public server before taking part in the league. The last thing we all want is an inexperienced driver getting the blame for a huge T1 pile up or even worse causing one.

It was my idea that I simply sort the times in order and the fastest go into Division 1 and so on but with over 575 times now recorded in just 5 days it will be impossible to sort out as these are recorded using Nicknames rather than the LFS Username. LFSLapper will only record Nicknames at the moment.


While watching the 100’s of races on the server it is obvious that all races are won by drivers who are consistant and that just don’t give up. The winner is often several seconds off the pace from the fastest lap time set during the race. There have been loads of races where a driver does one great lap out of the 10 and then messes up only to finish way behind or not at all.

Drivers of FXR and XRR win many races yet it’s always a FZR that seems to clock up the fastest lap.

I order to get the league off to a good start we need you thoughts on the best way to qualify as clearly using the fastest time is impossible.

To date we have about 25 registrations but loads of drivers say thay will register closer to the closing date.

The CLOSING DATE has now been moved to October 15th 2006, after this any application will go into the reserve list

I ask that you PLEASE REGISTER TODAY or ASAP at www.conedodgers.co.uk as we think we can only handle 5 divisions (100 racers)

MY IDEA is to hold qualifiying races between October 16th and October 20th for all those who have registered.

20 randomly chosen registered racers will be emailed and invited to complete in 2, 10 lap races each with a pit, one after the other so it should take less than 40 minutes. The grid will be random so you can blame LFS if you are at the back. Each race will score the the same points as the league and the highest scores (added together) will go into D1, the next into D2 and so on down to D5

In order to get your qualifying slot you MUST REGISTER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE at http://www.conedodgers.co.uk. If there is a day and time that suits you please enter it in the comments on the webform but we cannot promise anything.

If you have a better idea, please take into mind that I do this in my spare time and sorting through 575 Nicknames trying to match them to Usernames is not an option.

Please place your ideas here.

Thanks

You have always been very helpful and i am sure whatever you do will be a success

Now all you need to do is find a new VI replacement for Scavier

Victoria perhaps

All the best

Quote from Silkswift :

Indeed you should be able to use the Gateway module included in RaceManager (http://lfs.marcoz.org ). It hasn't been updated in a while, but it should still work just fine.

Franky has just finished trying it but cannot get it to work and CrazyIce has told me that LFSRacingGuard will not work with another insim applications so it looks like we are stuffed.

Quote from the_angry_angel :

Theres a few solutions. Either use the InSim relay (which the apps must support), or use one of the client side InSim relay's. Theres an old Python one floating about, Becky's LFS Companion will also act as a relay. I'm sure theres another as well, but I cant remember which...

Becky's has told me LFSCompanion will not work as Lapper is on the server and LFSC is on my PC

My server is one of 500Servers and Franky has tried to set it up using LFSW Insim relay but it does the same. I think Specator does the same in that it will not work while lapper is running.

I have found the Python one and will send it to Franky to see if it works

Thanks

Last edited by birder, Wed, 4 Oct 2006 15:39.

I have been told there is a work around to get 2 Insim applications working at the same time.

I have LFSLapper running on the [CD] Conedodgers Racing server but would also like to use LFS: RacingGuard but if i use one it stops the other

Any ideas?

Quote from SabersKunk :

Your links are working now.

I think my pb on asnat is 1.41 although I struggle to participate in more than a couple of races on asnat as I find it boring and my attention span is short at the best of times

If you read the website you will see that each league race date is just 2 10 lap races (with a pit) so why not signup and have a go

Quote from bo-kristiansen :

Im interested in joining this league
- only depends on... race dates, when will we get them?
tuesdays are a no go for me.

I can't sort out the dates until i have the numbers. I think i can run a maximum of 5 divisions D1 to D5. so thats a maximum of 100 racers, as some drop out other may join but at the lower divisions so the earlier you signup the higher you may be.

My idea is that once i have the numbers and have sorted them out i will email all invited in D1 asking which day they prefer. Once they have chosen i will email D2 and so on. Poor old D5 will get whats left.

I also would like to add the fastest 3 XRR and 3 FXR drivers into D1 to mix it up a bit at the start but once running it will all be on points to who goes where.

If you have any ideas please tell me as i want the league to fit in with you all.

I have worked out that at the rate people are signing up i will be in Division 21 with my crap laptime.

All i can say is please signup ASAP so i can get an idea of numbers

Quote from CSU1 :

I popped into that server last night, didn't get a warm welcome AT ALL.

I am not sure how a server can give a warm welcome but the server was very busy last night.

I am interested in constructive feedback so i can change things for the better but you need to tell me more

Please PM me

Thanks

Last edited by birder, Tue, 3 Oct 2006 12:15.

Quote from Krutch :

Hi,

First of all you 'forgot' to say which track the race was at. You should always give the most important information. Of course I can find on your website it is AS National, but not everyone will take a look there if they can't find it in the initial post.

On the server admin. I couldn't do without the LFS_Keys_Commands.pdf by P1lot. Not everything might be clear, so just go onto your server and test out a few commands when it's empty.

Another tool which comes in handy to check the status and make a few quick changes without going into LFS is Browse For Speed. Just search for that in the forum

Good luck!

Thanks

I have the Commands pdf file but several of the commands are not in it also as my server uses LFSLapper the insim post is being used and as far as i am aware you can only use one insim application at a time so RaceGuard and Browse for Speed cannot be used

If i could find a way to use Lapper and RaceGuard my problems would be far less

Last edited by birder, Mon, 2 Oct 2006 23:01.

Quote from bo-kristiansen :

Nice site you got there.

About the time limit... I think you should be way more strickt and
cut it at say... 1.44 or 1.45

..but then again... its also a question of getting enough racers to join the league.

Hi Bo

First thanks for the comments and for beating me so many times yesterday....... Ahhhhhhh

If you dont mind i will leave it as it is for a few days and watch how many join the league. As more join the higher the target time will go, in fact it may be an idea to also do a "starters League" outside the LFS: GTR League as we all have to learn racecraft somewhere and it better if the slower cars are on their own.

Finally, do me a favour and let me win just once..

Last edited by birder, Mon, 2 Oct 2006 22:59.

Quote from evilgeek :

any chance of creating some "western" divisions for this league, with later start times (say 0100 or 0200 GMT)?

The form to join on the website asks for country so it should be easy if you can get enough to join i will do it.

Which contries?

Someone will have to admin it as i will be in bed

Quote from AndroidXP :

Judging from the times I'd say Aston Nat.

But don't you think 1.59 as a limit is a bit ridiculous? I mean, not only that everyone with a tiny bit of racecraft can be faster than that, someone who barely manages 1.59 each lap isn't going to have any competition during a race, but he will just end up as dangerous moving chicane for the other drivers. Take something more reasonable, like, I dunno, 1:46 or maybe 48?

For interest

1.40 = 15
1.41 = 27
1.42 = 39
1.43 = 57
1.44 = 47
1.45 = 38
1.46 = 28
1.47 = 18
1.48 = 23
1.49 = 9
1.50 = 4
1.51 = 8
1.52 = 4
1.53 = 3
1.54 = 5
1.55 = 3
1.56 = 4
1.57 = 4
1.58 = 9
1.59 = 1

The idea is to have several divisions from fast to slow, that way the slower drivers get to race on thier own and the faster drivers get some good racing which is what we all want.

I do think you are right that setting a limit may force slower drivers to practice when not in a race but by the look of the numbers this may be about 1.49

Thanks for you comments

Last edited by birder, Mon, 2 Oct 2006 13:16.

Quote from SabersKunk :

What track are you talking about?

btw, your conedogers url directs me to an internic site.

It is Aston National and the links are working correctly for me, is anyone else getting a problem?

As some may have noticed I have setup a new server called [CD] ConeDodgers Racing ready for the new Aston National based LFS: GTR League on which is now taking registrations at http://www.conedodgers.co.uk.

The server has LFS Lapper fitted so records racers fasted time and stores it, the idea being that racers would have to hit a target time to join the league.

As the league is open to all and not to exclude the slowest drivers I set lapper to record anyone faster than 1.59

I just thought you may be interested in the stats.

Over the weekend (30th Set – 1st Oct) 340 racers recorded times faster than 1.59. You can see these stats on the website or by going to http://www.conedodgers.co.uk/conedodgers/stats.html.

The Best recorded time was 1.40.07 (wish it was me) with the highest recorded section being in the 1.43’s where there were 57.

As I am new to server admin I found it difficult to keep up with the requests and chat. I did kick 1 or 2 and warned others but its difficult when you can’t get on your own server to see what’s going on.

As the new league looks as if it’s going to be popular I would ask any driver who wants to take part to register their interest as soon as possible on the website as we may have to limit numbers.

I would like to thank everyone who came and the developers for such a great simulation.

My question is does anyone have any tips to help with server race admin

Last edited by birder, Mon, 2 Oct 2006 22:57.