after the D50 patch i noticed a stutter, more like a stuck situation

when downloading a mod or LFS is requesting mod image or mod list, while spectating and pressing shift + j or shift + p to join or go to garage to pick a car, the garage (vanilla cars images) flash for a split second and sends me back to spectating..
i cant join at all or even pick a car when LFS is requesting something or downloading a mod
I may not have the best internet but prior to D50 i was able to just pick a vanilla car and join when this happened.

here a screen recording.
https://youtu.be/I9_l2UDFu4M

Vehicle mod: ROSSA
Details page: https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods/F3ABEA

SHORT DESCRIPTION:

Quote :

a 4500 cc inline 6 medium transportation bus

DESCRIPTION:

Quote :

a 4500 cc inline 6 medium transportation bus designed for narrow and fast environments
can fit more than 20 passengers relaxed
the vehicle mod is based on a Mitsubishi Fuso Rosa bus
but the technical specifications may be different (not a detailed replica)
planned to add some details and skins in future updates
enjoy

COVER SCREENSHOT:

Hi, so there's no actual snap function
But you can puta subobject or a point exactly where you need it to be.
By putting values of it's coordinates.
r for Right/Left
f for forward and backward
u for altitude

Theres is 2 types of flipping.
#1 is a full flip: which flips the whole tris of an object around it's center
#2 swap sides: which reverse the coordinates of its point's

They may look the same but they mighty be used in different cases

I see you are trying to place the steering rack in place. So I'd suggest doing the following :
Placing the Subobject coordinates at 0 for all axis
Then manually moving it's points to where it should be on the built side of drive
Then from the subobject menu > flip function : set to swap side
It should work well.
For further details of the overall functions and navigation in lfse yiu can take a look at the lfs editor manual
https://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Main_Page

Vehicle mod: MERCIDS BNZ I6
Details page: https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods/F13A16

SHORT DESCRIPTION:

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14.5 ton inline 6 engine passenger bus

DESCRIPTION:

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14.5 ton inline 6 engine passenger bus
has 2 configurations :
- a default view where front windshield have wide normal view
- a lip that covers a bit of front top view

a default skin template for advanced skins, front and rear are lined with sides using same aspect ratio.. no stretching of textures or compression needed.

COVER SCREENSHOT:

Yep there's issue with japan servers i guess, mods will not download (i always get redirecting to jp).. Now mods downloading after disabling redirect.

Agreed, needs this.. This is a sim racing.. And racing isn't limited to 4 wheels and race cars... If this makes it into game at some point it will make for a whole new world of racing,cruising.. Etc

I'd love to a trailer support or lets say a PIVOT POINT where it allows mod makes to define an object to be towed or simple used as a steering method (like a hydraulic one)

Most derby races have a trailer and some old busted car

Very nice diesel fun to drive, but please fix LOD3 it's untouched

mod is up to review
https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/104798-STAR3X

showing the model progression from scratch

Quote from Scawen :

It's common for virus detectors to falsely flag patches. Nothing to worry about, if you downloaded it from our site.

alright, thanks sir

is it only m or anyone else have this, windows defender is detecting a threat in latest test patch pack:
some details..

Behavior:
Win32/DefenseEvasion.A!ml

containerfile:
C:\Users\Downloads\LFS_EDITOR_PATCH_7A_TO_7D40.zip

file:
C:\Users\Downloads\LFS_EDITOR_PATCH_7A_TO_7D40.zip->LFS_EDITOR.exe


webfile: C:\Users\Downloads\LFS_EDITOR_PATCH_7A_TO_7D40.zip|https://jptyo1-edge1.cdn.i3d.net/o6/brdzjj/LFS_EDITOR_PATCH_7A_TO_7D40.zip?nonce=MTY5MjAwNzgyOA%3D%3D|pid:4032,ProcessStart:133364816131574655

fun to drive but Needs more diff options

Quote from bayanofmansorofisky :

I will try to remove mods temporarily and join server at it's peak then I'll give further information
*update : crash didn't happen recently, might have been a faulty mod that got updated*

Late update on the issue, i couldn't do it before because my internet was not happy with me deleting all mods

But not that i did.. The issue seems to have gone.
Is there anyway i can tell wich mod is causing this issue incase it happens in future?

Quote from Scawen :

Please can you tell me the exact message that comes up? In the code I found two similar messages but neither is exactly what you posted.

Also, I'd like to know:

- When you exit LFS editor after selecting the other adapter, which numbers do you see in cfg.txt in these lines:
Adapter Select [number]
Output Select [number]

- After restarting LFS editor and it fails to start, is there any information in deb.log?


EDIT: If you have any problem restarting after that, you can simply delete the adapter and output select lines from cfg.txt.

sure here's some screenshots

this just contains pictures of how the build went and progressed from start to finish over a month period.

Quote from Scawen :

Nice dashboard, thanks for the result image and testing!


Please can you remove your suggestions and instead put them on the appropriate thread in the suggestions forum?

It's really impossible for me to follow things and retain my sanity if random suggestions are all over the place and the test patch thread is spammed up with off topic.

This thread is for discussions about the current editor test patch. Off topic suggestions here will be ignored.

sorry i looked over and somehow i did not find that correct thread

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By the way, did you get any better results with the bus mirrored texture?

I did a fresh installment of LFS and LFSE and patched to latest .. the issue was still there when i opened the file in editor but i tried to mirror both subobject and tris and it worked somehow.. all i can guess is its my editor acting up.

Quote from Scawen :

I've tested that and don't see that problem in game. Which version of LFS are you using?

I used editor D37 and LFS D31. The light mapping appears fine in game.

hmm that's strange, i am using same versions as u do
idk why its not appearing.. guess its time to reinstall
sorry for wasting your time sir.

Quote from Scawen :

I've tried to reproduce that, both a single sided subobject with mirrored triangles, and a mirrored subobject with mirrored triangles.

I don't get a problem in either case. Can you attach a model that can be used to reproduce this issue?

below u find screenshots of how it looks in editor and how it looks inside LFS after exporting for test
I've attached a file of whole mod which is exported for development
you can find the triangles that are having this issue in second subobject named " lights and others"
all lights are mirrored and they aren't appearing correctly as in editor.. i was mistaken for whole tris loss but its just the textures now.
I've tried making a flipped cutout and using it in opposite mapping but nothing did it.

there's a very annoying bug in the latest couple of patches

mirrored triangles in a subobject are missing when exporting to lfs
for example i had lights on a subobject and the mirrored side went missing

Quote from drifter811 :

Could you make the 2 door version of it?

Yes, but when is unknown, neither guaranteed

Hello, LFS EDITOR bug when changing the graphics adapter
It's defaulting on Intel HD 4000 and works fine
I try to set it on my Radeon R5 graphics card then exit lfse
When trying to lunch it again it shows error " OUTPUT NOT FOUND"
All drivers are updated.

Quote from Bahadir1910 :

Best mod ever <3 but engine sound should be better.

Ty sir!
Yep i totally agree, I'll try working on the sound later

Quote from Scawen :

That doesn't explain why D21 crashed and D20 didn't. According to this theory, any available version would crash if someone on the server was using the mod that is corrupted on your hard drive.

Yesterday i had this issue for the first time in D20.. It happened multiple times after..
I was on TC City Driving with a full server..
So yes i guess the version doesn't matter.. I guess it was a coincidence so far that it didn't crash on D2 earlier.

I will try to remove mods temporarily and join server at it's peak then I'll give further information
*update : crash didn't happen recently, might have been a faulty mod that got updated*

Last edited by bayanofmansorofisky, Sun 14 May 2023, 07:11. Reason : Situation update

Quote from Scawen :

Is it possible to find an exception code and crash address or offset?
Some info about that: https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/1974629#post1974629

It seems unlikely that reverting to D20 would really fix it, as D21 has so few changes. Maybe it was a coincidence, that whatever caused the crash, disappeared at the same time you tried D20. How many times did you try with D21? This is the first time we have heard such a report, so I won't attach much importance to it yet. But if you can provide a crash address, I'll investigate.

sure, here u may find something.
the crash happens very often..i had this issue for a week .. i try multiple times, 9 out of 10 times it crashes.

Log Name: Application
Source: Windows Error Reporting
Date: 08/05/2023 06:03:37 م
Event ID: 1001
Task Category: None
Level: Information
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: SuperMegaRetard
Description:
المستودع الذي يحتوي على أخطاء 1604433972694237219، النوع 1
اسم الحدث: APPCRASH
الاستجابة: غير متوفر
معرف ملف الخزانة: 0

توقيع المشكلة:
P1: LFS.exe
P2: 0.0.0.0
P3: 641ef2a9
P4: LFS.exe
P5: 0.0.0.0
P6: 641ef2a9
P7: c0000005
P8: 00065f71
P9:
P10:

الملفات المرفقة:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3BBF.tmp.mdmp
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3DC3.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3DF3.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3E01.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3E11.tmp.txt

قد تكون هذه الملفات متوفرة هنا:
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_LFS.exe_4e87bbc6c8b1b21060e6a2881f425c30e07c186_d10da236_2f48d062-af40-4b13-8e02-2a94df6a3bfd

رمز التحليل:
إعادة البحث عن حل: 0
معرف التقرير: cee1eb41-ddba-4374-ae8f-ae47a58ea769
حالة التقرير: 268435456
المستودع المجزأ: 6fc49b7b7972b732e644183290024023
دليل المستودع: 0
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Windows Error Reporting" />
<EventID Qualifiers="0">1001</EventID>
<Level>4</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2023-05-08T15:03:37.860813900Z" />
<EventRecordID>6629</EventRecordID>
<Channel>Application</Channel>
<Computer>SuperMegaRetard</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>1604433972694237219</Data>
<Data>1</Data>
<Data>APPCRASH</Data>
<Data>غير متوفر</Data>
<Data>0</Data>
<Data>LFS.exe</Data>
<Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
<Data>641ef2a9</Data>
<Data>LFS.exe</Data>
<Data>0.0.0.0</Data>
<Data>641ef2a9</Data>
<Data>c0000005</Data>
<Data>00065f71</Data>
<Data>
</Data>
<Data>
</Data>
<Data>
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3BBF.tmp.mdmp
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3DC3.tmp.WERInternalMetadata.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3DF3.tmp.xml
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3E01.tmp.csv
\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\Temp\WER3E11.tmp.txt</Data>
<Data>\\?\C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\WER\ReportArchive\AppCrash_LFS.exe_4e87bbc6c8b1b21060e6a2881f425c30e07c186_d10da236_2f48d062-af40-4b13-8e02-2a94df6a3bfd</Data>
<Data>
</Data>
<Data>0</Data>
<Data>cee1eb41-ddba-4374-ae8f-ae47a58ea769</Data>
<Data>268435456</Data>
<Data>6fc49b7b7972b732e644183290024023</Data>
<Data>0</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>

LFS Crashes to Desktop without any error message
It happens when joining a packed server (like 40 players), after clicking join host it loads everything up until screen changes and u get the connected message, but screen stuck on the blue background for like 10 seconds then it crashes.
Runing latest test patch D21.
Downgrading to D20 actually fixed it.