You ask a question and quote a text that answers that exact question...I have nothing more to add to this text. Do I need to copy-paste it back to you? Or maybe you should just read what you're quoting?
Or the purpose of this thread is also described in its first post. If you really want to know the answer to your question, just read it.
But I understand that you don't really want to know the answer, and that's why you're asking this pointless question. You just want to start arguing again, just because I'm the author of the thread. And when im respond to you with the same words back, you'll run to complain about profanity to the developers just like it was now. As if they have nothing better to do than to check off-topic threads...
I don't care if you don't respect me and provoke a cussing in this thread. But at least respect the time of the developer of the game you yourself have been playing for years.
I agree with what you are saying. But I don't think this thread should be closed. Originally this thread was created so that those who speak negatively against Russians (or Ukrainians or whoever) would do it here with argumentation so that we could discuss their views and perhaps dispel some misunderstandings or false views. Every time I find messages like that in the server chat, I send a link to this thread so we can discuss it here and not on the public server where it doesn't belong. And I'm still waiting for these people to show up and post what they think.
As long as they don't, this thread is a search for the causes and effects of what's going on. And I think it's valuable that people with different opinions can speak up and discuss it. In addition, we discuss current events in the war, or as with the Prigozhin mutiny, for example. As has been the case on all pages up to 9.
The insults on my part are only aimed at pointing out the lack of argumentation on the opposing side and raising the level of discourse. Yes, sometimes you can do it through insults, some people only understand such language. But I try it to keep within limits. At my own account I never take to heart any negativity that is on the Internet. I think it's extremely stupid to take it personally from the Internet from people you don't know. In my opinion, swearing and insults on the Internet exist as a form of attracting attention or increasing the emotional level of your words. And I don't see anything wrong with that. Freedom of expression our opinions in this thread is far more valuable than shutting it down for insults.
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Stupid Z's, can't say anything but ass firing. There nothing new in the lack of argumentation from them, but I love looking at those burning assh*les.
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Omg... "What are you saying,that you left-handed homosexual?"
Racon, mow you understand who I have to deal with here, he don't understand even the simplest analogies...
Racon, mow you understand who I have to deal with here, he don't understand even the simplest analogies...
lol, this is not my thread, this thread is for everyone.
btw illness by defenition is an unhealthy condition of body or mind in which the person is feeling unwell.
So homosexuality is not a illness by definition.. Calling something a illness out of your own bias only points to your complexes.
In general I've heard many people from Russia and who present themselves as masculine man who also have an immediately understandable manner of communicating, whom we usually call "bydlo", fixate on how they could anal f**k someone they don't like, and after that talk about hating gays, which is a typical manifestation of latent homosexuality that they can't accept because of their complexes.
And there are a lot of people like that, every other person with a bullheaded attitude says things like that.
"going on"? What do you mean? The mutiny of the Prigozhin did not last more than twenty-four hours.
If you mean the red-white civil war 1918-1923, why this starting point? There was a chain of events of two revolutions and the Bolsheviks taking power. That is the real reason. The rise to power of a misanthropic idiallogy. The Civil War is the battle of the whites for their freedom and against the tyranny of the reds, i.e., the Bolsheviks.
The Soviet Union, which was trying to create a new Soviet man, and unfortunately they succeeded in many ways, and today's events are partly due to this reason. Because the people in power in Russia are Soviet people. They are not used to appreciating human life. But they value their own lives, and that is why we have the highest corruption rates in the world and an authoritarian state.
Edit: And what is your purpose in this thread if you are not answering questions (as in page 5), but just making statements on this forum thread?
This forum is for mutual discussion. Answering, atleast on questions is good manners.
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Lislon Drift Challenge - Stage 8 - Results
Results of the eighth stage of the Lislon Drift Challenge!
Winner of qualification:
sidemastersº Darkvil 🏅
Individual standings:
sidemastersº Darkvil 🥇🏆
Jarvenpaa motorsport🥈
B☆S`Kepals🥉
Thank you all for participating!
Special thanks to dod1slaw and RDC Foch for their help in judging.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BQEa95JZWRIW8c__VgWK0-ch-L-HLZ3mvlAGSMOf-sM/edit#gid=111375954
Winner of qualification:
sidemastersº Darkvil 🏅
Individual standings:
sidemastersº Darkvil 🥇🏆
Jarvenpaa motorsport🥈
B☆S`Kepals🥉
Thank you all for participating!
Special thanks to dod1slaw and RDC Foch for their help in judging.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BQEa95JZWRIW8c__VgWK0-ch-L-HLZ3mvlAGSMOf-sM/edit#gid=111375954
What? I was talking about not trusting politicians in the context of what Putin and Clinton said about Russia joining the NATO.
Do you really consider the article in the newspaper as an argument?
Why can't I then cite Russian propaganda as an argument?
And what is the evidentiary basis for these claims? How can we talk about an allegation that has not been made publicly, but was in your paper?
Everyone's choice to play in the LFS or not, no one will beg to stay here.
But why do you care so much about the popularity of the LFS? Shouldn't we appreciate the games for its own value. Not for how others value it by popularity or something else. Whats the point?
If we are talking about the success of the project and measure it with popularity, okay.. but where does any desire to play or not play LFS because of this?
I agree with issue about the online, but I hope that the upcoming update and the possible release of the trackeditor can change this.
Unfortunately updates are take longer than someone would like, but there are only 2 people working on the game, and technically they could do not do it, and just sell the game with the current content for the current price, but they still working on the game simply because they appreciate this project and the community so much that they continue to do it.
But why do you care so much about the popularity of the LFS? Shouldn't we appreciate the games for its own value. Not for how others value it by popularity or something else. Whats the point?
If we are talking about the success of the project and measure it with popularity, okay.. but where does any desire to play or not play LFS because of this?
I agree with issue about the online, but I hope that the upcoming update and the possible release of the trackeditor can change this.
Unfortunately updates are take longer than someone would like, but there are only 2 people working on the game, and technically they could do not do it, and just sell the game with the current content for the current price, but they still working on the game simply because they appreciate this project and the community so much that they continue to do it.
I see no reason to answer the questions of a person who does not answer my questions.
Oh, I never thought of it that way. I thought that it happens randomly, maybe cuz I had years of experience in blender, and I could not even think that it can work like that, for me it was not intuitive.
Now I have tried to rotate the mouse around the click area, and now I understand that it can be convenient. But still if there will be time it would be nice to have a button just for the modeller to move the camera to the selected triangle.
But really it is not so important, now majority of players is waiting for an update with graphics and physics in LFS, I would prefer that all efforts would go to on that update. Although it's up to you what to do in the first place.
You, unlike some other developers, continue to support the game for decades and listen to the players about the next updates. Thank you for that
The only significant inconvenience left in the modeller, (in a year and a half, I still couldn't get used to it) This is the inconveniently working center of camera rotation, it constantly randomly moves every time you move the camera. Every time you have to adjust the camera in a convenient way every time it flies somewhere, this is inconvenient. Since we often work in a big camera proximity to mesh, I would like to have a function to assign the center of rotation to a selected triangle, like we now have with the origin, object and eye buttons, and that when you rotate and move the camera the center of rotation would not move randomly. In blender, there is a dot button on the numpad for this. This working perfectly. Center of rotation works predictably and conveniently when camera moves. I would like something like this.
It's important to understand that I'm not justifying Putin's actions, I'm just trying to understand cause and effect.
In Russian propaganda to justify the war they pour bullshit in the ears of the audience. Denazification, Demetalization, Occupation of historical lands. Saving the Russians. All of this is nonsense aimed at the mass audience. The Kremlin doesn't care about Nazis or Russians. Although I can break down these reasons point by point.
1. Demilitarization. The level of miltarization has only increased since the war began, now almost all Western countries are funding the Ukrainian war campaign. If we seriously count this as a reason to start the war, the Kremlin has ****ed up big time here.
2 Denazification. The only reason to glorify Nazis and denazify Ukraine today is Russia. Azov was created in 2014 as a reaction to Russia's actions in Crimea and Donbass. And after the outbreak of a full-fledged war in '22 in Ukraine, which has spoken mostly Russian all its life, the Russian language is perceived as hostile. The whole society began to be nationalized around itself, which was not the case before '22.
3. Saving the Russians. This is complete nonsense. In 2020 only 40 people were killed. and for the entire year 2021 77 people died in Ukraine as a result of military action (pic 1 even from a pro-Russian source), that includes civilians and military. But most of these deaths were from mines left behind, in particular the "Butterfly Mine" that took most of the lives. Of the 77, only seven were civilians. And it is not a fact that all of them were Russians. Because even in the DNR there was and still is a significant number of people who consider themselves Ukrainians. And after the start of the war in 2022, the number has not even gone into the thousands. There were tens if not hundreds of thousands of people killed, most of whom were Russians. In Mariupol alone there were 430 thousand people. According to various estimates, from 20 to 50% of the population was killed. And this is only one city that was affected by this inhumane war. This war does not save the lives of Russians, it just kills them.
4. Occupation of land. What is the point of owning this land? If we are talking about the land we must understand what the benefit of obtaining this land. This land does not have any benefit for Russia, and for many years this will be a loss-making region due to the restoration of a huge amount of infrastructure, because whole towns and villages were destroyed in ruins. This will be a huge item in the budget, and no benefit. And if Ukraine, based on the results of the war, gets more reparations, it will be a total failure for russia.
Each of these points makes no sense as a justification for starting the war. That is why I am trying to find the real reason. And yes NATO is the only thing that looks even slightly reasonable. The problem with Ukraine's accession to NATO is purely geopolitical. And it is not even about rockets. The entire territory between eastern Europe is flat. And if the territory of Ukraine will be the border of nato, it means direct passage for the military, and the front in case of conflict will be much easier to move.
But as I said before it didn't make sense to start a conflict in 2022 either. It would have looked much more legitimate in 2014. There were relatively large casualties from military action in 2014. There really were Nazis in power in Ukraine in 2014. But not in 2022 and not in 2021 or 2020.
Since Z people are too dumb to think for themselves and that's why they can't answer questions, I've prepared a couple more arguments in their favor. And it even more sensible things than propaganda feeds people cuz it are based on facts, but they may be disputed:
1. Ukraine has publicly stated that it is not going to comply with the Minsk agreements (agreement on conflict resolution) because they believe that this document is directed against Ukraine. But in spite of this they signed it...
2. In 2021 Nato gave Ukraine weapons and in January 2022 Nato gave 170 tons of weapons to Ukraine.
3. Five days before the war, Zelensky announced a revision of the Budapest memorandum treaty to cancel it. (to start developing nuclear weapons)
All of these arguments can easily be smashed if you think about it a little and that is why I don't use them. But I'll leave it to you.
My opinion has not changed since the beginning of this war, I believe that the beginning of this war is not just a mistake but a crime. A crime in consequence of which many people die every day. But Ukrainians defend their home from invaders. They have a purpose. And only Russians die for nothing. And it is necessary to get out of it by any means. I'm sure that Russian propaganda can play that too. They have been masterfully bullshitting their viewers for 20 years, turning them into idiots who can't even answer simple questions, like some people here on this forum thread. The propaganda also will be able to convince them that they should have withdrawn the troops for exampe. They will swallow that too.
Some will probably get a little upset, a little bit of a struggle, but they will swallow it, because what else can they do they don't have their own head. They only have a TV instead of a head.
In Russian propaganda to justify the war they pour bullshit in the ears of the audience. Denazification, Demetalization, Occupation of historical lands. Saving the Russians. All of this is nonsense aimed at the mass audience. The Kremlin doesn't care about Nazis or Russians. Although I can break down these reasons point by point.
1. Demilitarization. The level of miltarization has only increased since the war began, now almost all Western countries are funding the Ukrainian war campaign. If we seriously count this as a reason to start the war, the Kremlin has ****ed up big time here.
2 Denazification. The only reason to glorify Nazis and denazify Ukraine today is Russia. Azov was created in 2014 as a reaction to Russia's actions in Crimea and Donbass. And after the outbreak of a full-fledged war in '22 in Ukraine, which has spoken mostly Russian all its life, the Russian language is perceived as hostile. The whole society began to be nationalized around itself, which was not the case before '22.
3. Saving the Russians. This is complete nonsense. In 2020 only 40 people were killed. and for the entire year 2021 77 people died in Ukraine as a result of military action (pic 1 even from a pro-Russian source), that includes civilians and military. But most of these deaths were from mines left behind, in particular the "Butterfly Mine" that took most of the lives. Of the 77, only seven were civilians. And it is not a fact that all of them were Russians. Because even in the DNR there was and still is a significant number of people who consider themselves Ukrainians. And after the start of the war in 2022, the number has not even gone into the thousands. There were tens if not hundreds of thousands of people killed, most of whom were Russians. In Mariupol alone there were 430 thousand people. According to various estimates, from 20 to 50% of the population was killed. And this is only one city that was affected by this inhumane war. This war does not save the lives of Russians, it just kills them.
4. Occupation of land. What is the point of owning this land? If we are talking about the land we must understand what the benefit of obtaining this land. This land does not have any benefit for Russia, and for many years this will be a loss-making region due to the restoration of a huge amount of infrastructure, because whole towns and villages were destroyed in ruins. This will be a huge item in the budget, and no benefit. And if Ukraine, based on the results of the war, gets more reparations, it will be a total failure for russia.
Each of these points makes no sense as a justification for starting the war. That is why I am trying to find the real reason. And yes NATO is the only thing that looks even slightly reasonable. The problem with Ukraine's accession to NATO is purely geopolitical. And it is not even about rockets. The entire territory between eastern Europe is flat. And if the territory of Ukraine will be the border of nato, it means direct passage for the military, and the front in case of conflict will be much easier to move.
But as I said before it didn't make sense to start a conflict in 2022 either. It would have looked much more legitimate in 2014. There were relatively large casualties from military action in 2014. There really were Nazis in power in Ukraine in 2014. But not in 2022 and not in 2021 or 2020.
Since Z people are too dumb to think for themselves and that's why they can't answer questions, I've prepared a couple more arguments in their favor. And it even more sensible things than propaganda feeds people cuz it are based on facts, but they may be disputed:
1. Ukraine has publicly stated that it is not going to comply with the Minsk agreements (agreement on conflict resolution) because they believe that this document is directed against Ukraine. But in spite of this they signed it...
2. In 2021 Nato gave Ukraine weapons and in January 2022 Nato gave 170 tons of weapons to Ukraine.
3. Five days before the war, Zelensky announced a revision of the Budapest memorandum treaty to cancel it. (to start developing nuclear weapons)
All of these arguments can easily be smashed if you think about it a little and that is why I don't use them. But I'll leave it to you.
My opinion has not changed since the beginning of this war, I believe that the beginning of this war is not just a mistake but a crime. A crime in consequence of which many people die every day. But Ukrainians defend their home from invaders. They have a purpose. And only Russians die for nothing. And it is necessary to get out of it by any means. I'm sure that Russian propaganda can play that too. They have been masterfully bullshitting their viewers for 20 years, turning them into idiots who can't even answer simple questions, like some people here on this forum thread. The propaganda also will be able to convince them that they should have withdrawn the troops for exampe. They will swallow that too.
Some will probably get a little upset, a little bit of a struggle, but they will swallow it, because what else can they do they don't have their own head. They only have a TV instead of a head.
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Basically yes. It turned out that Prigozhin and Lukashenka were old friends, apparently for this reason Prigozhin made contact with him and managed to agree.
This is one of the possible scenarios. But I doubt it. And there are at least 2 reasons why, we don't know how strong Kadyrov's troops are. They could not achieve a single goal in the war with Ukraine. They became famous as TikTok troops, recording videos in TikTok without doing anything contrctive in the war. This is no longer the army of Ichkeria, which won the first Chechen war. This is the akhmat army. there are two big differences.
The second reason is that Kadyrov is systematically killing supporters of a free Ichkeria. Many of them had to go abroad, and even there many of them were found and killed by Kadyrov. Even the famous blogger Tumso Abdurakhmanov, a supporter of free Ichkeria, was attempted to murder. Maybe its just a sideshow for Putin to show his loyalty. Or maybe these are his true views. Ramzan Kadyrov has been cooperating with Putin, who killed his father, almost for 20 years now in spite of the Jihad agains Russia that his father had declared.
But it did expanded. And that's what's important.
Just imagine the reverse situation, what if Russia created a new ussr, recruited new members in defensive alliance for "universal security" and it would move west and start taking on canada and mexico and put missile systems there aimed at "defense against external threats". How would the U.S. react? They would freak out. And most likely World War 3 would started.
That's pretty much what happened when the USSR wanted to put missiles on Cuba. Legally they are two independent countries, they could do it. But Kennedy threatened to "sink the soviet ships and if that leads to World War III then so be it" if the USSR did it.
So why should Russia act differently?
In the 90s-00s, Russia didn't pay too much attention to European countries because it was struggling for existence itself, the economy was in huge crisis, and 2 wars with Chechnya. Though Putin's opinion was always clear on this topic. And according to him back in 2000 he was not against joining NATO, and he even tried to join Nato, but "NATO wouldn't let us in". And there are two a bit conflicting opinions from Putin and Clinton.
Clinton had previously mentioned that he had offered his Russian counterparts Boris Yeltsin and Vladimir Putin the possibility of Russian membership in NATO. "All this time we kept the doors of NATO open for Russia to join, as I made clear to Yeltsin and then to his successor Vladimir Putin," he emphasized.
Putin also recalled conversations with Clinton about Russia possibly joining NATO. During the 42nd president's most recent visit to Russia, he asked him how America would respond to Moscow joining the alliance. "I will not reveal all the details of this conversation, but the reaction to my question looked, let's say, very restrained, and how the Americans really reacted to this possibility is actually seen in practical steps with regard to our country" - Vladimir Putin
But I'm not used to trusting the words of politicians, I think if NATO wanted to see Russia as a member, it could publicly declare it. Just like it was recently with Sweden and Finland. But there was nothing like that.
Prigozhin stopped the movement of PMC "Wagner" in Russia after talks with Lukashenko.
"The talks lasted all day. As a result, we came to an agreement on the inadmissibility of unleashing a bloodbath on the territory of Russia. Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted the offer of President Alexander Lukashenko to stop the movement of armed men of Wagner in Russia and to take further steps to de-escalate tension.
At the moment there is an absolutely advantageous and acceptable variant of de-escalation of the situation on the table with the security guarantees for the Wagner PMC fighters," said the press service of the President of Belarus. Alexander Lukashenko.
"Now is the moment when blood may be spilled, therefore. Understanding the responsibility of what Russian blood will be spilled on one side. We're turning our columns around. And we are leaving in the opposite direction to the field camps according to the plan" Evgeny Prigozhin
Probably one of the best scenarios it could have ended
"The talks lasted all day. As a result, we came to an agreement on the inadmissibility of unleashing a bloodbath on the territory of Russia. Yevgeny Prigozhin accepted the offer of President Alexander Lukashenko to stop the movement of armed men of Wagner in Russia and to take further steps to de-escalate tension.
At the moment there is an absolutely advantageous and acceptable variant of de-escalation of the situation on the table with the security guarantees for the Wagner PMC fighters," said the press service of the President of Belarus. Alexander Lukashenko.
"Now is the moment when blood may be spilled, therefore. Understanding the responsibility of what Russian blood will be spilled on one side. We're turning our columns around. And we are leaving in the opposite direction to the field camps according to the plan" Evgeny Prigozhin
Probably one of the best scenarios it could have ended
The Russian Foreign Ministry warned Western countries against any hints that the domestic situation in Russia could be used to achieve their Russophobic goals amid the attempted armed uprising.
In the Lipetsk region they are cutting the highways to stop the movement of the "Wagner" PMC convoy - media
Earlier, Lipetsk Governor Artamonov reported that the equipment was moving through the region.
A huge convoy of military vehicles of Akhmat troops stands at the entrance to Rostov, (pic 1) which is now occupied by the Wagner PMC. Big fights are expected for the city, people are piled up at the train stations and at the exits from the city.
There is also the possibility that the Wagner could seize the nuclear arsenal, for example, there are rumors that Wagner soldiers were seen near facility 375, which is a nuclear warhead storage facility. (probably a fake, but who knows).
"If Russia's nuclear arsenal is "under the control of bandits," the whole world will be on the brink of destruction" - Medvedev. (deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia since 2020. Medvedev also served as the president of Russia between 2008 and 2012 and as the prime minister of Russia between 2012 and 2020.)
At this time, the Belarusian opposition is trying to take advantage of the conflict within Russia.
Svetlana Tihanovskaya and the Kalinovsky regiment issued statements calling on Belarusians to prepare to liberate their homeland
In their appeals, they urged the Belarusian military not to get involved in the civil war that had started in Russia. Tikhanovskaya noted that Belarusians have their own country and they should fight exclusively for its good. Both sides noted that the turmoil in Russia gives the Belarusians a unique chance to kick the Russian military out of their land and get rid of Lukashenko's tyranny.
Kalinovsky's regiment, fighting on the side of Ukraine and composed of Belarusians, appealed to all its supporters in Belarus to prepare for uprising and wait for the signal. Tikhanovskaya promised to gain international support for the struggle of the Belarusians to liberate their homeland.
Military equipment is already being brought to the entrances to Moscow. (pic 2) For example here you can see a BTR and a soldiers with sack reinforcements and a grenade launcher.
In the Lipetsk region they are cutting the highways to stop the movement of the "Wagner" PMC convoy - media
Earlier, Lipetsk Governor Artamonov reported that the equipment was moving through the region.
A huge convoy of military vehicles of Akhmat troops stands at the entrance to Rostov, (pic 1) which is now occupied by the Wagner PMC. Big fights are expected for the city, people are piled up at the train stations and at the exits from the city.
There is also the possibility that the Wagner could seize the nuclear arsenal, for example, there are rumors that Wagner soldiers were seen near facility 375, which is a nuclear warhead storage facility. (probably a fake, but who knows).
"If Russia's nuclear arsenal is "under the control of bandits," the whole world will be on the brink of destruction" - Medvedev. (deputy chairman of the Security Council of Russia since 2020. Medvedev also served as the president of Russia between 2008 and 2012 and as the prime minister of Russia between 2012 and 2020.)
At this time, the Belarusian opposition is trying to take advantage of the conflict within Russia.
Svetlana Tihanovskaya and the Kalinovsky regiment issued statements calling on Belarusians to prepare to liberate their homeland
In their appeals, they urged the Belarusian military not to get involved in the civil war that had started in Russia. Tikhanovskaya noted that Belarusians have their own country and they should fight exclusively for its good. Both sides noted that the turmoil in Russia gives the Belarusians a unique chance to kick the Russian military out of their land and get rid of Lukashenko's tyranny.
Kalinovsky's regiment, fighting on the side of Ukraine and composed of Belarusians, appealed to all its supporters in Belarus to prepare for uprising and wait for the signal. Tikhanovskaya promised to gain international support for the struggle of the Belarusians to liberate their homeland.
Military equipment is already being brought to the entrances to Moscow. (pic 2) For example here you can see a BTR and a soldiers with sack reinforcements and a grenade launcher.
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For me personally, this conflict has not yet touched, I live in a city in which battles are not yet expected.
But if we are talking about a change of regime, it will affect me too, and no matter how it ends, I do not see any positive ways out of it.
If Prigozhin wins, who knows what he is capable of, to me he looks even less adequate than Putin. Most likely this will lead to an increase in totalitarianism.
If Putin wins... (what is most likely to happen) with his pedantic approach to his entourage, what Prigozhin is doing to take over the cities is already a defeat for Putin. Putin has known Prigozhin for a long time. It's extremely surprising that Prihodzhin would do such a thing. After Putin wins, he will have many reasons to be paranoid and look for traces of the new instigators of the change of power. It will be another "tightening of the screws" It will be another "tightening of the screws" as we say in Russia, i.e. also increase of totalitarianism.
Eeeh.. i mean yes you right, In our school we had a subject in Basics of Life Safety, and we had lessons on "Ensuring radiation safety of the population" and what to do in case of a nuclear explosion. For example, our teacher in Basics of Life Safety had a favorite joke that if you saw an explosion and a nuclear mushroom, you should lie down and crawl. When asked by students where to crawl to, the teacher would answer to the grave.
But I think that maybe we should discuss more relevant things, for example, there is an attempted military coup in my country right now..just saying.
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Vladimir Zelensky supported Yevgeny Prigozhin in his actions, as well as the battalion of the Ukrainian army Russian Volunteer Corps came out in support of Yevgeny Prigozhin.
RVK head Denis White Rex urged all his comrades-in-arms to take active steps to overthrow the government "I urge all supporters of the RVK to take action! We have a unique chance to determine our own destiny and the destiny of our country!"
Meanwhile, Kadyrov's Akhmat troops are moving toward Rostov. Kadyrov had earlier come out in support of Putin. And he called the actions of Prikhozhin a betrayal.
Private planes of the Russian elite flew out of Moscow toward St. Petersburg.
A truck full of boxes of money was found near Prigozhin's office
According to preliminary data, about 4 billion rubles were found
Prigozhin confirmed the discovery, saying that there were salaries and compensation for the relatives of fallen soldiers.
According to TASS reports, the president's plane was heading for St. Petersburg.
Peskov (Putin's press secretary) denied TASS information that Putin had allegedly flown to St. Petersburg
There was an explosion at an oil depot in Voronezh, and shells were falling in the town of Ozerki in Voronezh region. One of the shells fell right in the parking lot next to people.
There was also a projectile landing, presumably on a military convoy in Voronezh region on the M4 highway.
Wagner PMCs hit Russian Air Force's Ka-52 helicopter with Arrow-10, heat traps take missile away
RVK head Denis White Rex urged all his comrades-in-arms to take active steps to overthrow the government "I urge all supporters of the RVK to take action! We have a unique chance to determine our own destiny and the destiny of our country!"
Meanwhile, Kadyrov's Akhmat troops are moving toward Rostov. Kadyrov had earlier come out in support of Putin. And he called the actions of Prikhozhin a betrayal.
Private planes of the Russian elite flew out of Moscow toward St. Petersburg.
A truck full of boxes of money was found near Prigozhin's office
According to preliminary data, about 4 billion rubles were found
Prigozhin confirmed the discovery, saying that there were salaries and compensation for the relatives of fallen soldiers.
According to TASS reports, the president's plane was heading for St. Petersburg.
Peskov (Putin's press secretary) denied TASS information that Putin had allegedly flown to St. Petersburg
There was an explosion at an oil depot in Voronezh, and shells were falling in the town of Ozerki in Voronezh region. One of the shells fell right in the parking lot next to people.
There was also a projectile landing, presumably on a military convoy in Voronezh region on the M4 highway.
Wagner PMCs hit Russian Air Force's Ka-52 helicopter with Arrow-10, heat traps take missile away
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Prigozhin refuses to surrender.
"We have fought and are fighting. All of the PMC "Wagner". And no one is going to surrender at the request of the president of the FSB and someone else, because we do not want the country to continue to live in corruption, deceit and bureaucracy."
There is already at least a helicopter shot down of the Troops of the Russian Federation by the troops of Prihozhin.
Some convoys of heavy vehicles have already passed through Voronezh and are on their way to Moscow. (less than 500 km to moscow)
The some of Prihozhin troops are still in Rostov. (About 1k km to moscow)
The authorities are already trying to limit traffic and block roads on the way to Moscow.
"We have fought and are fighting. All of the PMC "Wagner". And no one is going to surrender at the request of the president of the FSB and someone else, because we do not want the country to continue to live in corruption, deceit and bureaucracy."
There is already at least a helicopter shot down of the Troops of the Russian Federation by the troops of Prihozhin.
Some convoys of heavy vehicles have already passed through Voronezh and are on their way to Moscow. (less than 500 km to moscow)
The some of Prihozhin troops are still in Rostov. (About 1k km to moscow)
The authorities are already trying to limit traffic and block roads on the way to Moscow.
There is some madness going on right now.
In these minutes there is an attempted coup d'état from Prigozhine's Troops.
Yesterday Prigozhin declared Shoigu and Gerasimov to be traitors. (earlier he said he approached them and said there was insufficient issue of ammunition for his troops)
Shoigu is Minister of Defence of Russia since 2012
Gerasimov - is a Russian army general serving as the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces and First Deputy Minister of Defense.
And according to Prigozhin, he moved to Moscow to kill them.
I thought it was some kind of joke or white hot from vodka.
But already now Prigozhin's troops are standing in Rostov and Voronezh..the tg channels publish troops in the cities. From Voronezh to Moscow 500 km on the highway.
This morning Putin made an emergency announcement about the mutiny, he said it was a stab in the back. This is treason and all traitors will be destroyed.
In short, to simplify things in Russia right now an attempted military coup. Prigozhin versus Putin.
In these minutes there is an attempted coup d'état from Prigozhine's Troops.
Yesterday Prigozhin declared Shoigu and Gerasimov to be traitors. (earlier he said he approached them and said there was insufficient issue of ammunition for his troops)
Shoigu is Minister of Defence of Russia since 2012
Gerasimov - is a Russian army general serving as the Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces and First Deputy Minister of Defense.
And according to Prigozhin, he moved to Moscow to kill them.
I thought it was some kind of joke or white hot from vodka.
But already now Prigozhin's troops are standing in Rostov and Voronezh..the tg channels publish troops in the cities. From Voronezh to Moscow 500 km on the highway.
This morning Putin made an emergency announcement about the mutiny, he said it was a stab in the back. This is treason and all traitors will be destroyed.
In short, to simplify things in Russia right now an attempted military coup. Prigozhin versus Putin.
2 dashboard things.
Sometimes in real cars, digital gauges are used along with analog ones. Therefore, I would like to propose the use of both digital formula texture and analog conventional texture at the same time, that we can use two textures at once. This is especially common on tuned cars.
And I would like a separate tacho from the LED light in formula clock texture. Not an replacement for tachometer LCD. Because it also can exists as separate lights on the steering wheels along with the dashboard for example.
Sometimes in real cars, digital gauges are used along with analog ones. Therefore, I would like to propose the use of both digital formula texture and analog conventional texture at the same time, that we can use two textures at once. This is especially common on tuned cars.
And I would like a separate tacho from the LED light in formula clock texture. Not an replacement for tachometer LCD. Because it also can exists as separate lights on the steering wheels along with the dashboard for example.
The update with dashboards is just great, now dashboards will be beautiful and it will be easier to create beautiful mods inspired by real cars. The only thing which lacks is the ability to turn off the numbers for the texture of the formula clocks, so that we can customize the fonts for the numbers atleast for tacho.
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When they have nothing to say, they post pictures of themselves
Well at least that's honest
Well at least that's honestAnd again no answer again, every time, it's so funny
Hey Z people who support the war, do you have a single fact that "Ukraine has adopted nazism"?
I'm asking any of you, I'm asking for at least one fact. Don't you have any?
You could at least name someone from Azov for the sake of decorum, but you don't even do that... Bandera in Ukraine today in the mass consciousness is just a fighter for independence. People who support him deny the crimes he committed. That doesn't make them Nazis.
Yes in Ukraine after 14 and especially after 24 February last year, the cult of nationalism is cultivated. But why did it happen? Do you understand the cause and effect relationship? And why is that a bad thing? It can be bad, I don't deny it, but why, can you explain?
Israel exists as a National state. So? Why is that a bad thing? Putin himself, for example, called himself a nationalist. And?
If you are so shy or have nothing to say, then let me start with the facts about Nazism.
Dmitry Utkin admitted to being a Nazi.
Alexei Milchakov openly admitted to being a Nazi, a racist, a sadist and a vivisectionist.
Dmitry Ragozin spoke at Russian marches, against minorities, and raised arm in the Sieg Heil in cheer for Hitler. Which speaks well for his views.
Eugene Rasskazov (Topaz) also openly admits to sympathizing with Nazi ideology and Hitler.
DSRG Russich, an organization that aims to destroy the "khokhlos" (an insulting term for Ukrainians)
And at least part of the leadership of the Wagner PMC has supporters of Nazism, and there are already a lot of investigations into this.
And many others.
But there is one nuance, these are not Ukrainian, but Russian people and organizations. Which were supported by the Russian Ministry of Defense. Which means the Russian state.
Dmitry Rogozin (pic 1-2, second pic he holding a banner with "whites of all countries unite") is a Russian politician and statesman. In 22 he left for the war.
Dmitry Utkin (pic 7, 8) is the commander of the Wagner PMC.
Alexei Milchakov (pic 3, 15, 10, 11 Photo with the head of Crimea Sergey Aksenov) commander of DSRG Rusich.
photo with the head of Crimea Sergey Aksenov
And these people have followers who surely share their views, like Vladislav Krasnolutsky (pic 4)
"Russia for Russians, Voronezh for Krasnolutsky!" is the title of their joint photo in the social network of Vladislav Krasnolutsky, The brothers' social network albums contain many photos with a Third Reich theme, tattoos and T-shirts with swastikas, as well as selfies with their right hand raised in Sieg Heil. Vladislav Krasnolutsky first joined the Russian Wagner PMC and left for Syria in October 2017, where he was killed in Deir ez-Zor province. His brother, Artem Krasnolutsky, joined the Wagner PMC in 2018, after he was convicted of kidnapping and he was prisoned for 11 years in strict regime. He escaped from custody to the Wagner training base in Molkino, and received additional training there. After that, he was sent on a March rotation to staffing the Wagner PMC.
Or like Veselina Cherdantseva, known to television viewers as "Sniper Vasya"
Ksenia Shikalova is true name of Sniper Vasya, who emphasizes that she fights exclusively against fascism in the Donbass, has interesting photos too. (pic 5) Sniper Vasya is everyone's favorite in 2014, worthy of all praise, even to the point of declaring her almost the main squire of Igor Strelkov,According to Mayorov's relatives, Vasya was cold-blooded killed Alexei Mayorov but circumstances that are not entirely clear. It could have been a trivial conflict that escalated into a threat with a real weapon, in which the weapon still went off and Mayorov had to be killed to cover her tracks, or another argument over money, typical of such military conflicts, where Vasya accused Mayorov of stealing, but could not present any facts.
Or like Eugene Rasskazov (Topaz) who is part of Rusich group, openly calls for killing Ukrainians in his Telegram channel and congratulates Hitler on his birthday.
Or Yan Petrovsky (pic 6, 10), nicknamed the Great Slav. One of the closest people to Milchakov in Rusich group.
Yan Petrovsky is aslo known on the Internet for harboring Vyacheslav Datsik (pic 9) from prosecution.
Or such as brothers Konstantin (most likely pic 14 bottom one)
and Boris Voyevodin (pic 13, 14 left one, 17 and its funny not cuz of dress, but cuz it same house with pic 10 of Yan Petrovsky as you can see from the surrounding) from Rusich group. Both are Russian neonazis and are from St. Petersburg.
Kirill Rimkus (pic 12, 16 holding flag in left, 20) is also one of the members of DSRG Rusich, the pictures speak for themselves.
Yulia Kharlamova (pic 18)
Together with the Rusich group Yulia Kharlamova attacked Aidar battalion checkpoints in the village of Metalist, Luhansk region, according to Podrobnosti.ua. With reference to the now deleted but cached pages on social networks, the Ukrainian media reported that Yulia under the nickname Nordika participated in conventions of neo-fascist organizations and is a member of the "Orthodox-Nazi" organization Lamb of the Sky Blue. It is also reported that Kharlamova managed to get married and have a child, and is now closely friends with the "animal man" Alexei Milchakov, who, according to the Ukrainian press, abused the wounded fighters from "Aidar" in the village of Metalist.
And now these people are fighting for Russia and receive support from the Russian state. And this is not all of them, but only the most famous..
And nothing happens to them, no one fights with them in Russia. On the contrary, the state gives them support, financial support, supply support, invites them to state tv channels. And makes heroes out of them.
We can also add the Russian Imperial Movement, founded in 2002 in St. Petersburg by Stanislav Vorobyov, the Russian Imperial Movement has been fighting in the Donbass since April 2014. Who received government contracts on millions of dollars. The ultranationalist and white supremacist organization that advocates for the purity of the white race. Which, after February 24th, head of the movement Denis Gariev created its branch, the "ПартиZан" organization. It is now recruiting people for the war. In April 2020, the U.S. State Department imposed sanctions on the group, as well as Vorobyov and Gariyev.
The group “has provided paramilitary-style training to white supremacists and neo-Nazis in Europe and actively works to rally these types of groups into a common front against their perceived enemies,” the department said in a statement. The movement “has two training facilities in St. Petersburg, which are likely being used for woodland and urban assault, tactical weapons, and hand-to-hand combat training.
A few weeks after Gariyev’s Telegram post, the organization's combat training center in near St. Petersburg, called Partizan, announced the recruitment of volunteers to fight in Ukraine.Gariyev has also created a related organization called Reserve Squad, which, according to the German intelligence report, has received multimillion-dollar orders from the Interior Ministry, the Federal Security Service, and the Federal Protective Service, which is the government agency charged with providing bodyguard protection to top Kremlin officials.Like with Rusich, fighters with the Russian Imperial Legion joined the hostilities in eastern Ukraine in 2014-2015, and according to information provided by the militants, at least six members of the group were killed then.According to German intelligence, Gariyev was wounded in fighting in mid-April, and his deputy, Denis Nekrasov, was killed, possibly near the Kharkiv Oblast city of Izyum.Aleksandr Verkhovsky, a longtime expert on extremist groups in Russia and head of the research center SOVA, said that there were likely far fewer Russian extremist fighters in Ukraine now than there were in the early years of the Donbas war. “Nationalists played a key role in the first phase of the war,” he told Current Time.
Here are a couple of articles from the Robert Lansing Institute on the subject.
https://lansinginstitute.org/2022/03/16/russias-political-line-neo-nazism/
https://lansinginstitute.org/2022/05/26/nazism-emerges-in-russia-as-russian-neo-nazis-fight-in-ukraine/
https://lansinginstitute.org/2021/01/27/russia-keeps-setting-up-and-backing-neo-nazi-fighting-groups-in-the-west/
And there were other Russian neo-Nazi organizations like: Slavic Union, Cleaners, BORN, Format 18, Restruct, Volkssturm, Lincoln-88, NS/WP Nevograd, Ryno-Skachevsky gang, SPAS, National Socialist Party of Russia, Mad Crowd, White Society 88, Schultz 88, Werewolf Legion...and so forth. Yes, many of these organizations were banned, people were imprisoned, killed, or forced out of the country, but not all of them, many of them in 14 and 22 year and to this day go to combat formations like DSHRG Rusich, PMC Wagner, Russian Imperial Movement and other similar organizations.
So where is the Nazism we're talking about?
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