sigh.. all this over an image that can be knocked up in a few hours.

Do you really care if people you dont know cant see the skin?
Just keep it within the team, end of problem.

Since its too much trouble for you to email the skin to your teammates, how about password protection from lfs world?

Wrong password no download. Again who cares if people you dont know cant see it, are you that vain?

There are people out there who would go out of their way to hack any encryption just so they can hack off a team. forget about the dev protecting you in this way.
I'm sure it's happening more often because of threads like this,let it go and get back to racing.
:fence:

I use a button clutch to be sure. Sometimes the engine would still bog if I got my timing wrong.

Still get swamped by most of the field but hey thats the price you pay for driving the emo-car.

Add .300 to first to make starting better.

That message was full of contradictions and so is this thread. :spin:

Best thing to do is to race others as they race you.

We can all drive like psychos or drive with respect for each other, I'm adaptable.

The out of bounds rule was to prevent drivers trying to pass in the grass, and prevent drivers from being forced into it. All about safety.

Nascar has allways been a bit wild, part of its charm.

I bet you could get some of the fast cars to use the apron, just need a nice soggy setup and the balls to do it.

"unethic movement" aka "the Schumacher method"

another 10 years.

can't last forever:cry:

have a look at the fe green hotlaps, true cutting but legal.
I'm supprised it was so long before people got on the oval apron, I saw it was possible the first time I saw the oval.

Do it if you like.

Quote from Astro [ BJRL ] :

who is that hiding behind that tree, waiting to JUMP on you ? ....it's Ol' Man Trouble !!!!!!

moo??

:bannana_p

I dont mind a champ car, or any other type of car. Bring on the trucks if you like, THAT would be intersting.(trucks not pickups)

I think a lot of oval racers feel cheated by the kyoto ring, its just a high speed test track.
Which attracts the speed nuts and newbies like moths to a flame.

It also gives ovals a bad name, anyone who drives it thinks oval racers cant drive and that ovals are easy.
it was a very bad choice for lfs first oval, I think it should be removed untill a better one can be designed.

good areo-physics are vital for super speedways, air and track temp will also drasticly alter the handling of your car.
Untill these are in and done well in lfs the only ovals it should have are the very flat and low speed ones.

True. the rfactor demo just didnt grab me, but it can't be that bad lots of people like it.

I guess I wont be buying another sim untill iracing release. Its nice that
lfs has seen off so many pretenders
But it would be good for it to have something better than it in the wild and better for us.

I still say an hour is not enough.:eclipseeh

lfs: I like this but back to nascar2003! (in 2003 )
rfactor: meh its alright
nkpro: lol I'll come back in a year.

Last edited by -wes-, Wed 10 May 2006, 14:24.

Quote from Hatemaker :

Ouch, I played rFactor yesterday, and I've already got my money back. Sorry to say it, but it was a waste of an hour.

gave it a proper test then?

whitey6272 in the game switch to the custom view while on track. Go into the 'options' then the 'view' menu you should see options for x,y,z offset. mess with the sliders until your happy.

Quote from spankmeyer :

1) Start... FZRs take a big lead every time despite XRR starting from pole. Kind of demoralizing, because XRR driver always ends up in the middle of the pack where there is much higher risk to get wrecked out in T1.
2) T1... Pretty even, thanks to everybody having cold tyres.
3) First slow corner... FZR just smokes XRR when exiting corner. Nada chance to even catch their slipstream.

Story of my lfs life, and yet I cant stop driving the lumbering beast.

Each car should be faster than the others at some of the tracks, I like the idea of the xrr being the speed king with the fzr good at mid-high speed twisty bits.
The fxr is left with short tight tracks where acceleration matters.

After a year of driving my heart out just to be past by a stream of fzrs Im thinking of giving in. And going over to the fzr. :weeping:

Quote from Execution Style :

I only race in the cockpit.

How else can you get a good feel for what kind of body roll you are getting?

The view will still pitch and yaw when not in the cockpit view.

Hehe just noticed that you can match the cockpit view positon with out drawing the cockpit!

I've always used the default cutom view with no draw, just centres the cam to the centre of the car. Very little difference to the cockpit view in tintops and exactly the same with single seaters.

found a joos connection bug when joining the server in the pic. (for the bf1 car)

error: joos -car whl eng r1 r2 r3 r4
initial sync failed

Its a S version server but I can join other S and T servers running the bf1 without a problem.

The only difference is that they have autocross objects loaded for the oval.
I connect and then 10 seconds later I get droped with the error.



I was one of the people that had crash problems with S (fixed in T).

If you want me to try somthing I'll be hanging around for a bit.


found a T server with the same track+autocross object layout, connected fine. Might be limited to the t3 patch and version S servers.

Last edited by -wes-, Tue 25 Apr 2006, 13:56.

Did a lot of driving at as national, found myself passing fxr's as if they were stuck in fourth. They were all running out of steam at the end of long strights.
I think this was down to the big improvements to the xrr, I've picked up 2 seconds on my pb thanks to the patch.

The turbo no longer kicks the back end around, it has greater stability under braking and rotates better while in a bend.

It was a real pig but now people might want to drive it.

I saw a lot of pb's being broken at as n. In general I think the patch is helping average drivers more than the aliens.

Maybe I got lucky And the setup I was running suited the new patch.
It felt a lot better without any tweeks and I could tell it wanted to go faster, the changes were a click here and there nothing drastic.


Heres hoping the alieans wont brake 1:40 but with them anything is possible.

Last edited by -wes-, Mon 24 Apr 2006, 12:53.

Quote from colcob :

Clearly in oval racing, you dont need to be able to trail brake from 150-50mph into a decreasing radius turn over a crest without losing the back end; you dont need to be able to put down 700bhp while exiting a 30-40mph tight bend twice a lap without spinning; you dont need to be able to outbrake another car into a sweeper, or ride kerbs through a chicane at high speed. etc.etc.

You do most of that at bristol, and drivers brake at a lot of the big tracks these days as well.
The only thing that we will ever agree on is that you can learn to drive an oval faster. only 2 bends vs 7+ at a road course less to remember and so on.

hmm I was sure one of the demos used bristol but they dont. Anyway if you have never driven a nascar sim pick up the papyrus 2002 and 03 demo's and find out what us oval heads are on about.

The lfs oval is a bit pants next to most of the other shapes out there.

http://www.vugames.com/downloads.do


try braking in to the bends at richmond and michigan.

Quote from ajp71 :

They still work, even on my system and can produce graphics that come close enough to LFS (which is hardly A*). Certain parts of the iRacing engine will be the same as when the current generation Papy engine was released in 1998 In fact GPL was to have rain in it and an (at the time) ground breaking carear mode starting in Formula Fords working up through F2 to F1.

you have tried the sim?
Or were you part of the small test thay did 1 year ago, that was based on the old 2003 code?.
thought it was going to be all new.

the old first racing.net site is still active.

slicks.
The lx6 might have a higher top speed,not driven either enough to know.

There is an option which will affect the way the pedels feel(besides bad calibration) . as shown here.


The pic below shows how the pedels feel to me when I was messing around with the centre reduction setting.

Nice graph right?

Anyway a setting of 1.0 will make the cars feel less sensitive to pedel input, which should help you out if your spinning out on power all the time.
Good for throttle stompers!

For me I found 0.0 made it very hard to make small controlled throttle changes near 100% pedel input.(small pedel change gave a large change in the game pedel from 50% to 100%)

I use 0.5 at the moment , play around with it see what suits you best.

in java use the float method; intValue( myint ); its in java.lang -Float.

Or do you mean convert the data into screen coordinates?

from programmers files on the web site:

Have you looked at pth.txt?
come with the smx meshes. anyway;

limit left would be the outer collision bounds(can't drive beyond this).
drive left would be the edge of the road.

when you join points between nodes you get a line that you can test for collision with.

I haven't worked on this so someone correct me if im wrong.

super! it looks very nice.

Bit odd this.

When I use this packet lfs spits out this error message: "could not find connention x's client info"

scawen's example code gives the same error so its not my code, I was think that it might only work with an admins pass or when the insim app is server side.

However it does work if you set the connection number to 0, uniqueid does not work either. It just brings up the same error.

I had a poke around the forums didnt find anything.

http://www.-wes-.f2s.com/lfspg.jpg

The review is mostly fair. It may have the best driving experience, but it des not have the best racing experience. I dont feel like I'm about to start a important race , i'm just tooling around with some other people.

Have you played call of duty2? Its total sensory overload, you almost feel like your there.
This is what lfs could do with, its very hardcore and just about the car physics at the moment.

Lfs does not need to sell its soul in order to give a better experience.

I still love it to bits though.