Great race! We enjoyed that a lot, I hope to see you next year!

Good fun. Cya next year.

Thanks for organizing and racing guys!
I want to thank NGT drivers on server 2. They were very good (for me). ;-)
Cheers from #277 team ;-)

Quote from kaynd :

You were continuously ignoring any car that was in your ideal line trough any corner of this track.



This is a Joke...

You expect the car in front of you to just disappear.

No, I dont except it to dissapear, but you have to understand, you cant keep you line and try to fight whit me.

Great race, everybody! Good Work >> Admin Team

See ya next year !

ev0brake ;-)

Quote from manneF1 :

No, I dont except it to dissapear, but you have to understand, you cant keep you line and try to fight whit me.

I wasn't driving on the last stint’s incident.

I was driving on the first stint though.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7071/35175537.png Tel me in which way I tried to block you here. I was as far to the outside of the corner as possible and kept moving forward missing completely any corner entry in order to give you enough room.
You didn't move to the slightest for a tighter line.


This has already been discussed

Quote from commandermas :

Quote from jasonmatthews :

Of course the NGT's should move over if possible, but I would think that it is the responsibility of the passing car to not even attempt it in the chicane's or corners.

that is what my quote should have meant. In the first year we had NGTs that totally sticked to their line and the faster cars had their problems to lap them

http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1499838#post1499838

Good race guys, grats to all.
I'm really sorry with you Luca Ippoliti !
Since i don't want push u out, but i thank that u remain in left and u turned on right and so ... boom !
I hope i've no broke your race !

Thanks all for this once again very good race, especially the admins who did a perfect job once again. This race was extremely intense for me, as I drove 9 hours and 20 minutes between the start and the 11 hours mark. Apart from a few incidents, everything was quite clean. We think we took 5th, although we will have to wait for confirmation.

Last thing, congrats admins for keeping alive a classic LFS race, probably one of the most intense and challenging of its kind. I sincerly hope you will have time and interrest to carry on for 2011 and beyond, and I hope the concept will regain some interrest after we went to only 2 servers this year.

I want to say that even though we had some problems; most of the drivers on all classes were very clean, trying to avoid contact. This was a really difficult combination of cars and track, especially for a three class race. It’s impossible to not have contacts on a track with so many tight corners and narrow parts.

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

congrats admins for keeping alive a classic LFS race, probably one of the most intense and challenging of its kind. I sincerly hope you will have time and interrest to carry on for 2011 and beyond, and I hope the concept will regain some interrest after we went to only 2 servers this year.

i wanna say thank you to all participated teams.

it was a realy good and fair race.

just a few teams get a live penalty for cutting.
so that shows the professional of all drivers.

i hope i'll see each guy of you next year?

and i think its time to show the most important organizer of this event:

Headadmin: CommanderMAS = the girl for all server,forum,admin,protests
16h Webpage: socmaster88 = great job exo tracker,16h webpage
live admin: Thrill = server admin
live admin: moppaking = server admin
Admin: Toffer 2006 = forum,live admin,skinpack,grid distribution

thx guys that was so amazing with you

i like my team

Quote from GreyBull [CHA] :

Last thing, congrats admins for keeping alive a classic LFS race, probably one of the most intense and challenging of its kind. I sincerly hope you will have time and interrest to carry on for 2011 and beyond, and I hope the concept will regain some interrest after we went to only 2 servers this year.

That

Thanks to the admins and everyone involved. Was a bit sad at first to see there was no streaming (not even start and/or finish) but that didn't matter in the end, we still had fun racing so I'm pretty sure we'll be back next year

Greate race, everybody! Good Work >> Admin Team

See ya next year !

Quote from kaynd :

I wasn't driving on the last stint’s incident.

I was driving on the first stint though.
http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/7071/35175537.png Tel me in which way I tried to block you here. I was as far to the outside of the corner as possible and kept moving forward missing completely any corner entry in order to give you enough room.
You didn't move to the slightest for a tighter line

That picture shows that I had brakes on, but your violent braking didint let me nothing else to do that brake and turn. Allthrought that wasnt enough and I clipped your left rear a bit, shame that cause you to crash.

Grats to podium in every class! Thanks to the admins (who did a good job during the entire race) and everyone who attended. Thanks for the racing!

Quote from manneF1 :

That picture shows that I had brakes on, but your violent braking didint let me nothing else to do that brake and turn. Allthrought that wasnt enough and I clipped your left rear a bit, shame that cause you to crash.

This is my violent braking… half of the braking force. My only mistake here is that I brake too early. I misjudged your position and I thought that you could have passed me earlier in the corner entry. Allso, if you pay any attention to the braking lights… I am giving you enough time to choose a line with no obstacles like me in your way.
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/757/39781660.png


Instead you choose to stay right behind me. Even if my take is wrong… what do you expect to happen here? FXR’s cornering speed is by far faster here… one way or another, one thing is certain… you were aiming to pass trough me. (tip: check the brake lights)
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3190/16835074.png


At that point your decision is already taken… of course there is nothing more you can do… heavy braking will cause you to understeer facing the wall.
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5221/23040168.png

While I am sensing disaster and I almost let off the brake while trying to shift the car to the outside.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1170/40818903.png



[edit]
Just another example of what I am talking about.
You didn’t bother to sacrifice even 1 km/h of your speed through that chicane to avoid hitting your own team nGT. (Pedal to the metal all the way)
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5135/64876548.png
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8935/27358133.png




And there are many more incidents through the 16hour race… I will be surprised if I am the only one who got bothered by your behavior.

Again. It’s not just about one incident. It’s the whole attitude that bothers me. As you can see on the following laps of that very stint you threw me out, I had no intention to block, and I did anything in my power to avoid any car, including yours. (if you ever bother to check the replay)

Thank you guys for organize this event one more time.

See you next eyar.

Quote from kaynd :

This is my violent braking… half of the braking force. My only mistake here is that I brake too early. I misjudged your position and I thought that you could have passed me earlier in the corner entry. Allso, if you pay any attention to the braking lights… I am giving you enough time to choose a line with no obstacles like me in your way.
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/757/39781660.png


Instead you choose to stay right behind me. Even if my take is wrong… what do you expect to happen here? FXR’s cornering speed is by far faster here… one way or another, one thing is certain… you were aiming to pass trough me. (tip: check the brake lights)
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3190/16835074.png


At that point your decision is already taken… of course there is nothing more you can do… heavy braking will cause you to understeer facing the wall.
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5221/23040168.png

While I am sensing disaster and I almost let off the brake while trying to shift the car to the outside.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1170/40818903.png



[edit]
Just another example of what I am talking about.
You didn’t bother to sacrifice even 1 km/h of your speed through that chicane to avoid hitting your own team nGT. (Pedal to the metal all the way)
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5135/64876548.png
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8935/27358133.png




And there are many more incidents through the 16hour race… I will be surprised if I am the only one who got bothered by your behavior.

Again. It’s not just about one incident. It’s the whole attitude that bothers me. As you can see on the following laps of that very stint you threw me out, I had no intention to block, and I did anything in my power to avoid any car, including yours. (if you ever bother to check the replay)

You may put your screen on jpeg form, bcz png is too high and long to load.....

it was quite boring as a spectator without livestream :i

Quote from kaynd :

This is my violent braking… half of the braking force. My only mistake here is that I brake too early. I misjudged your position and I thought that you could have passed me earlier in the corner entry. Allso, if you pay any attention to the braking lights… I am giving you enough time to choose a line with no obstacles like me in your way.
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/757/39781660.png


Instead you choose to stay right behind me. Even if my take is wrong… what do you expect to happen here? FXR’s cornering speed is by far faster here… one way or another, one thing is certain… you were aiming to pass trough me. (tip: check the brake lights)
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3190/16835074.png


At that point your decision is already taken… of course there is nothing more you can do… heavy braking will cause you to understeer facing the wall.
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5221/23040168.png

While I am sensing disaster and I almost let off the brake while trying to shift the car to the outside.
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/1170/40818903.png



[edit]
Just another example of what I am talking about.
You didn’t bother to sacrifice even 1 km/h of your speed through that chicane to avoid hitting your own team nGT. (Pedal to the metal all the way)
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/5135/64876548.png
http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/8935/27358133.png




And there are many more incidents through the 16hour race… I will be surprised if I am the only one who got bothered by your behavior.

Again. It’s not just about one incident. It’s the whole attitude that bothers me. As you can see on the following laps of that very stint you threw me out, I had no intention to block, and I did anything in my power to avoid any car, including yours. (if you ever bother to check the replay)

tbh, only thing what "bothers me" is that you cant admit, that you made a mistake there. There was big gap between you and me before left hander. It´s nice that you admited yourself that you brake too early, but as you can see from the pics, I was gonna going to wait to you go throught it, then you desided to go to right for no reason, what made me thourght that I could get a clean line throught it when it "looked" that you were giving me a way. Then you didint, you would smash the wall whitout my touch, shame that it ended that way.

Despite the fact there was serious and quite unfair difference between teams in GT2 and NGT and poor number of teams participating, it was a great, classic LFS race which I enjoyed much. Big kudos to teams and drivers who took part, admins and all RM crew for making it possible.

Quote from TexasLTU :

Despite the fact there was serious and quite unfair difference between teams in GT2 and NGT

I beg your pardon, but what does this mean actually?

I think he meant too low number in NGT teams and drivers abilities to drive fast 2:24 x 2:29 for example in GT2 class.
I agree, last year there was about 70 cars IIRC. Now half and a few more.

Looking forward to next year's race on ROC with new physics. :-)

Quote from manneF1 :

tbh, only thing what "bothers me" is that you cant admit, that you made a mistake there. There was big gap between you and me before left hander.

And you choose to stay right behind me despite that gap. You had enough time and space to slip by my left side.

Quote from manneF1 :

I was gonna going to wait to you go throught it,

My maximum cornering speed through that corner is 160km/h, yours is at least 185. How on earth this could work? You were going full throttle till the very last second. Is it necessary to trace your ideal racing line when you are about to slow down that much because of the much slower moving obstacle in front of you? I just see a driver ignoring completely what is in front of him, doing hotlap runs.

Quote from manneF1 :

then you desided to go to right for no reason, what made me thourght that I could get a clean line throught it when it "looked" that you were giving me a way. Then you didint, you would smash the wall whitout my touch, shame that it ended that way.

I was already to the right... I decided to go even further to the right a second before you hit me. In my copkit you can see my wheel turning to the right and then to the left. I thought that it's obvious that I am not on rails... I was afraid that understeer will send me straight through the grass and I did what I could to avoid an exit. I was trying to make you space. And you had more than enough to make a clean and fast pass. But obviously you didn't care.

You can’t predict that this move leads to a certain crash, no matter what I do…
(1sec and 180milisec between the two shots.)
http://img85.imageshack.us/f/2abr.jpg/
but somehow you can predict that I would crash to the wall by my own… Guess what… there was a reason for my relatively low speed there and I would have gone through that turn just fine even with a late corner entry, if you had chosen a line that didn’t pass over me.



But let’s not narrow it down to my incident only… if it was only this, I probably wouldn't care.

What's your explanation on the scenes I added to my previous post when you took out your team's nGT because you had no intention to lift off the throttle to the slightest?

What about this?
http://img810.imageshack.us/f/20634864.jpg/
http://img132.imageshack.us/f/76760183.jpg/
http://img163.imageshack.us/f/37206595.jpg/


this is even more profound.
http://img264.imageshack.us/f/24926146.jpg/
and closer
http://img691.imageshack.us/f/64192605.jpg/
even closer and still full throttle
http://img28.imageshack.us/f/71771254.jpg/
woops
http://img297.imageshack.us/f/85204224.jpg/

and the reason I made my first rant post about you here.
8 minutes before the race finish
http://img709.imageshack.us/f/resultex.jpg/



You should learn something from your teammates.
V.Lombardi and N.Puntola didn’t cause any incident and almost never came close to.

Even if you think that everyone else is wrong and you are right, that doesn’t give you any right to knock them out of your way.
Mistakes do happen. but thinking this is what you should do... that’s my problem.

Anyway, I rest my case. I caused enough destruction to this thread.

Quote from kaynd :

*snip'd the crap out

It is a couple of days since the race, and yet your still complaining about it. Its gone and nothing is gonna happen about it. best to leave it.