Lets try this conversation.
The West has being trying to take out Russia since 1945, welcome to the Cold War.
Actually a Hot War..., see Malaya, Korea, Vietnam, Africa ( Insert every war here )
As I see it, the US, (Farces For Good,) are concerned about China, the real problem today in the Pacific.
Please remember that NZ is part of 5 Eyes, we are on the West's side, so this is a Western viewpoint.
China is threatening to take out Taiwan so attacking any possible allies of China is high on the US game plan, and Russia, to the US, is low hanging fruit.
I just disagree with the way this is going, not being a fan of a nuclear apocalypse.
Not Russia, but USSR.
After the war, where the USSR showed itself better than all other countries against the Third Reich (if we do not take into account 1939-1941 USSR actions) And a question arose about which ideology is better, and which system is more suitable for people, socialist communism, or liberal capitalism. And according to history, the answer is obvious here.
Therefore, attacks on socialist countries friendly with the USSR were considered by the USSR as attacks on themselves, but a hot war between the USSR and America did not arise, and this is most likely due to nuclear weapons, but and the escalation grew, until the arrival of Gorbachev and the collapse of the USSR.
It's true, in economic terms, China is catching up with the US, and the globalists can't stand the multi-partisan world that Putin talked about back in 2007. But I believe that China has no allies, strictly speaking. (like 5 eyes) Formally, we are in alliance with China. But the Chinese have a famous ideoma - everything is for China.
After the start of the war with Ukraine in the UN, Venezuela, Myanmar, Nicaragua, Syria, North Korea supported Russia and accused NATO of provoking the invasion.
Just yesterday, an anti-Russian resolution was passed at the UN
Russia, Belarus, North Korea, Nicaragua, and Syria voted against.
Of Russia's consistent allies, only North Korea and Syria are now. China abstained from voting.
China makes the most profitable decisions for itself, that's all. And so far he is acting rationally. That's why I think he won't attack Taiwan. The example of Russia has already shown that attacking neighbors is a bad idea. Even if the West provokes you. Whether it is the supply of weapons or the arrival of officials. As it was for Ukraine and Taiwan. Starting a war with Taiwan is not a rational decision.
Yes, no one wants this, but what is the apocalypse? There will be no nuclear winter, there will be no total contamination of the earth with radiation. Destruction of all living things will not happen, this is a myth. But I agree that the use of nuclear weapons will lead to horrific consequences from which humanity can greatly reduce its population.
In the worst case scenario, all countries with nuclear weapons will destroy each other. And then I don't think there are enough warheads to destroy all the settlements and cities. (there are more strategic goals for destruction) All these countries are located in the northern hemisphere the southern hemisphere will be untouched.In addition, the factor of extremely small nuclear weapons tests over the past decades is not taken into account. Perhaps some of the bombs will explode in the launch shafts. Perhaps the Americans are doing well with this. But knowing how things are done here, I would not count on all our nuclear bombs. All survivors will simply understand that nuclear weapons are not so terrible, the deterrent will disappear. And that is probably start for global world wars.
There were times when ordinary accidents which could easily lead to puch red button, such as a false alarm of Americans protective systems, or American ships lost connection during the Caribbean crisis that already thought that a nuclear war had begun and they wanted to attack the ships of the USSR. Or Kennedy's appeal to the USSR, where he threatened to sink Soviet ships with missiles that USSR wanted to deliver to Cuba under the joint agreement. Each of these things could have led to a nuclear war but did not.
And I try to be optimistic and believe that this will not happen either. Putin may not be acting rationally, but he is not a fool.
Round here, USSR = Russia.
Yes, I'm aware of the difference, however don't expect that from most people commenting.
Here, in the West, China and Russia are allied. Strange point of view as India and other countries are involved with the 'New Silk Road' but that is the Western opinion.
I have no idea how this can currently be de-escalated, Putin has doubled down, as has the West so as someone who grew up in the 60's with the threat of WW part 3 this is the closest I have seen to a world wide nuclear war.
IMHO, a F#@! stupid idea but the West seem's really clear that they believe this to be winnable.
Ok, but that doesn't make sense to me. I will say more, Russian Federation ≠ Russia ≠ USSR. Russia ended in 1917. And difference between Russian Federationin and USSR in territories and ideologies. Politics, and attitude to people like cattle, (thanks to the West) remained similar. Now is Russian Federation is post Soviet country with many people who were born and raised in the Soviet Union. And the plan of the communist socialists was to grow a new kind of man. I won't explain it in a long text, but for short - in many ways they succeeded. In Russian Federation, there will be no changes for a long time until the infection indoctrinated into people's heads degenerates and die out.
In simple words, yes. But there are nuances that I described above.
There are no winners here, what they call winning is only the spread of their globalism and the weakening of the leadership of other countries through wars despite the fact that they themselves suffer losses through the supply of weapons and hydrocarbons prices. For those who seek to present themselves as the most civilized and correct, this is an extremely hypocritical thing.
I may call Putin crazy, but his speech about a multipolar world in 2007 is mostly correct. Although, since then, in some things he contradicts himself.
Why are you writing this? If you disagree with something, make arguments, I'm not interested in your unreasonable emotions. Since you are writing on an English-language forum, do it in English so that everyone understands.
What you say here is correct, the same as what I have said many times. ( And I'm an insane conspiracy theorist who is hated by most people here, welcome to my world...)
Global Politic's is very complicated with layer over layer parts of the game.
I have the advantage of studying this since the 1980's, this is simply the latest stage of the game.
I haven't seen a single one conspiracy theory from you yet. I understand everything you write about. And George Carlin is classic but the only thing I would advise when explaining your thoughts is not to communicate using links. 90% of people do not open them. And probably they doesn't understand your point cuz of that. It is better to summarize the meaning of these links in the text. And if there is a dispute about the facts started, then it is necessary to give links. And then they will be read.
In my opinion Left-liberal propaganda plays a big role here. And about "Land of the Free, Home of the Brave" It is easier for such people to take left-wing positions. When I watch western YouTube. I see how these ordinary people, reasoning their positions. (well, maybe a little smarter since they were able to create a channel, set up the camera and upload the video to YouTube) They don't understand much about history, geopolitics, logic. But they are already trying to talk about who is right and who is to blame. they also often talk about the oppression of minorities in their countries, about cultural appropriation, about the canceling of those or others for the words they spoke. (and it doesn't matter if it's a joke or irony) They do not understand anything, bow down to people of another race, kiss their feet, arrange pogroms in cities, want to make communism.. (yes, I understand, this is an extreme example, but there are such) And I don't see a dispute with these people in the left wing. It feels like everyone agrees.. And it's scary. If something like this starts, it could be the beginning of the end. Russia was destroyed by leftist ideas. And the Russian Federation still cannot wash away the consequences of this tragedy.
And I'm not saying that I'm an expert in history, geopolitics and philosophy, but I have at least some knowledge, and I'm ready to accept the inconsistency of my opinion if there are stronger arguments against my position.
In your case, yes. But this is not a universal rule. I'm only 30 years old. And I'm just trying to figure in the way the world works order without falling under anyone's propaganda. I don't know if I'm doing it, but I'm just trying. Now there are even more opportunities to study this with the help of the Internet. And it's even more likely that you'll end up on the wrong sites with wrong ideas. Where will you be in a world of shit with takes from multiculturalism and gender studies, Marx's Das Kapital, meinkampf, or the fourth political theory. Twitter people who are not able to accept large volumes of text, find it difficult to abandon the simple ideas that are embedded there in order to indoctrinate them with propaganda. Someone will probably read the originals, and a few will be able to figure out and understand that in practice this leads into shit.
Unfortunately the era of journalism is over. In my opinion, this the indicator of global authorization of power. Similar reasons force Western leaders to act as they act by spreading globalism through provoking wars in disputed territories of those who oppose this glabolism.
Yes, it's funny that is a crazy grandpa there too. But the US has a system of checks and balances, high bureaucracy, and bipartisanship. All this helps a crazy leader not to start making idiotic decisions. He can do some things. But he does not have full power like Putin.
Not completely confident about that, hasn't made the media here for some reason, but I'd suggest reading this in addition to what I've already said re China.
Since March 25, Russia has been losing more and more occupied territories every month (Pic 1-3), even what Putin declared on September 30 as Russian territory is now de facto not Russian territory. (Pic 4, I have drawn this as a red line that Putin has declared annexed territory, since that time, the annexed territory has not changed much)
At the moment, Russia does not even have the strength to seize what its Putin calls territory of Russia. From the available facts of the seized territories it has now become quite obvious that the Russian infantry is not capable of standing up to the Ukrainian army. Since the beginning of the war there is news of Russian infantry using WWI, WWII weapons, rusty ak-47 assault rifles that are over 40 years old. And uniforms without armor. For any civilized country this would be an outrageous lawlessness, but it is normal for our army. Even after the new mobilization in Russia on September 21, this did not lead to any results. But there was a lot of news about Russian army regiments being routed one by one against Ukraine's artillery, resulting in huge losses on Russia's part. Russia also lost a huge amount of armored vehicles, tanks and aircrafts. Some of the armored vehicles and tanks were captured by the Ukrainian side and are now used by the Ukrainian army.
There seems to be a war of attrition now, and Russia can do nothing but bomb Ukrainian infrastructure, factories, and power plants. Because of this, almost all of Ukraine suffers from loss of electricity.
In my opinion everyone has already ceased to understand the goals of this war, even the Russian leadership in public statements every time speaks about different goals, which they themselves contradict in their actions. The U.S. still has not started deliveries under the Land-Lease to Ukraine, which was discussed back in May. The executive branch of the government simply does not allow it. The funny thing is that Trump was reproached for his ties with Russia (which was not proven by 4 independent investigations) with the fact that he was pummeled by almost all the media for some positive words towards Putin. At after some time Biden does not allow the deliveries under the already signed Land-Lease and everyone in USA agree with silence.
I just don't understand why people are so fond of paying attention to the words and not the deeds of politicians. I understand that left-liberal propaganda plays a big role here, but its really Americans love TV so much and believe the politicians whose job it is to lie to the people? There is the Internet and you can just check the information, if you really want the correct information. I understand that for Americans is important is only America and no matter what happens there somewhere on the other side of the world. And majority of them even now will not find Ukraine on the map and on the one hand, it's not even bad and understandable, but when prices rise, and politicians obviously lie, don't questions arise?
What I'm wondering is what's gonna happen when Putin gets taken out? Will it be a coup only limited to the top elites? Or will it turn into a multi factional civil war?
if we are talking specifically about the russian people, and not the state then the Russians can do nothing, now Russians do not decide anything at all, there is no democracy, there are no liberal freedoms. There is a totalitarian, police, oligarchic state. It decides everything for the people and brainwashes the people that is the people decided everything. But for some reason, along with this, propaganda says that Russia will not exist without Putin, and so on..
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