I for one will certainly come back to check out westhill and whatever else they got in store for us. He's right you know, nobody if forcing you to wait around here and be miserable about it.
Some oldschoolers will never come back but thats just how it works, some leave new ones arrive... That doesn't mean that the community is ruined, it'll just be different people and in 5 years they will be the oldschoolers complaining that everything was better and more active when they joined on the westhill release.
This is a dumb thing to say. Anyone worth their salt in a computer science field should be able to look at that code and understand it the first or second time, and if Scawen's code is that messy then it might do him well to go take a few classes.
While it's 100% understandable that Scawen doesn't want other people touching his code, this is too far from the reason.
I think some older come back, but as a community it will not solve. Update only one track + open mode this doesn't solve anything. Soon come routine and everything will be back. If the competent did not release new update for one year about the next step forward we can only to dream. To satisfy only his ego but not people what to buy his license. At this time lfs have nice resolved hadverove requirements (ship)
The ship is leaky and duct tape does not solve the problem only prolongs life crew on ship
Assetto Corsa killed this because the LFS developers instead of releasing new cars and tracks, got focused on the tyre-physics then got stuck with it's maths. I remember when they announced the Scirocco back in 2008.
LFS physics are great the way they are now, Hell, I learned to drive thanks to this Sim.
Trust me. This is going nowhere. I've seen it before.
true.... for me... LFS is Dead about 6 years since 2008... early 2009 car+map... 2015..? nothing.. only working in the oculus rift?? who have it? 20 people?.... omg ....I am very disappointed i leave this account do not think back over here ... see all in another side people good luck all
PD: scawen and dev team. leave this and work in another project look the future.. look the technology today... now direct x 9 is old... today i have 25 years... im started in lfs with 12... but i cant wait more.. few years without notices... updates.. cars.. fun... but thanks by all and good years in lfs with this comunity ty all ( sorry my bad english )
Lol same here, I'm almost 21 now, I started with LFS back in February 2007, when the XRT was a demo car, my rig was a piece of trash Duron Pro 1300(welded in a PCChips MoBo) when I was like 13, hell man, I even bought a wheel to play that demo. Couple of years ago I finally bought S2 and got really dissapointed, there was nothing much to do, most servers were empty and the most active were TC Cruise(useless, but one of biggest player-magnet) and random turkish drift servers. Just like today.
I know nobody's stopping me, but I guess Id have to find another Sim. It was good while it lasted.
Scawen, please close this thread and give us the new Westhill, ok? Or rename the thread to 'No progress in Westhill guys, see you in early 2009'. If you release it tomorrow, I'll buy S2, S3 and even the rally pack. You told us, demo guys, to get ready for the update. So I'm ready, how about you?
Nope, you are not ready. He wrote you should buy S2 to be ready. And he didn't specify the time frame... just that they are "working hard" to release it. Work on your written text comprehension, you completely missed the point of his post, and instead turned it into something different.
Your degree of frustration caused by lack of new content has entered another level - you are so angry at devs that you started defending them (clever attempt to convince yourself everything is fine and there's nothing to worry about, i.e. 'I don't need new content').
Thats because they know their sims sucks (iR,AC) and they want you to play it because too much money already was dumped in those products and they need to make profits, here devs knows they have something unique and diffrent from any other sim racers and they know they have a good product and they safely can say "play other sims with no worries, if we finally add new content we know you will be back here sooner or later"
Or from the other side, if i was a dev i think i couldn't handle all those ppl saying my product is shit and release new content etc. when im doing my best. If you want to get a good product just wait patiently, if not just play other ones.
Personally i like to get one good patch instead of getting a ten crappy patches which fix one thing and ruin 5 and always "we fix them all soon" and then never fix it and instead of fixing it most devs are just adding another new content for real money like new cars and tracks because 100% working games doesn't make any profit, they just need to be at a decent level of working and then lets just add content for real money as long as some ppl will eventually understand some game fixes are needed. This is actually a situation in 80-90% of racing games today. Most things you got today its just a flashy graphics half-product which wasn't made to the end but it had to be released in its prime time for more money income. for example "The Crew" game.
You can say im frustrated and im defending devs but at the end its their product made from enthusiasts to enthusiasts and they are working on their on with their pace which suits them best.
Its not a game corporation which needs to sell their product in every possible way to make profit.
A lot of people think they know what Scawen's situation is (and Eric's, I suppose), but the fact is that you don't, and it's none of our business. It's none of our business if LFS is a hobby for them. It's none of our business if LFS is their only income. It's none of our business if it's somewhere in between the two.
Don't create things to add gravity to your claims and hypotheses. If I were them it would annoy me that people are discussing what they think is my financial situation, and how it means that I "need" to do something. It annoys me to see it, tbh.
This thread is about the Westhill update - it is coming, and frankly you don't have to care.