Look like we have an Arab drift invasion!
No youtube link so I dont watch it and Squid had pretty resumed the situation!

Quote from LFSn00b :

Arabdrift requires a bit of skill. I don't care how good are you at drifting, it's all about attitude. Your attitude is really selfish, immature and stupid. You say it's useless, it sucks. It doesnt suck when it's done properly, in CLOSED highway, track or something like that. But i agree, it's kinda crazy to do it on open streets, while there is few hundreds of watchers just next to road, so if you do a mistake - BAM! 10 people dies.

Blah blah! Arab drift movies always look like the same! Its the same straight with the same car with the same strange trance music!

Quote from AstroBoy :

Off Topic: Sounds just like u do on lfsT.

On Topic: Have to say mate that was pretty good and i agree nice editing.

LoL you're funny! I dont think so, I just don't share my opinions with the torque dictatorship. Arab drift sucks thats all, its useless and requires no skills!

Nuff said and next time use PM if you want to say something to me...

That suck! The music suck! Arab drift suck! You suck!

Nice

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I don't know the answer, but I do have a question: Is anybody likely to ever see it? I can't say I've ever noticed anyone's brakes - I'm too busy either looking at their bumper or trying to figure out how to make them look smaller in my mirrors.

Thats for screenshots issues

Quote from N I K I :

well its saudi arab style dudes, drfting on straight

Its not drifting its doing shit on straight! Make the difference between a skid and a drift...

Quote from maczo :

OK, that's my first edit so if you view it at 30% size, it might not be ugly

Stolen skin + sucky screen

Quote from rjm1982 :

Wow, it took you a full 7 days to come up that with little pearl of wisdom?

Keep burying yourself, nobody takes you seriously anymore.

Keep shut the **** up, my computer is not my gf...

And don't speak about things you don't know!

Quote from col :

In saying that, you have officially lost the argument

In saying that you miss a reason to shut your mouth.

Quote from rjm1982 :

They aren't stealing it. You are G-I-V-I-N-G it to them. You are uploading it to a service who's sole purpose is to DISTRIBUTE IT.

The connection between stealing a physical item and this is beyond stupid. I'm trying very hard not to berate you more than necessary, but you are making it oh so very hard. I know you probably wont understand this concept, but I'll explain it anyway.

Taking a physical item from someone DEPRIVES them of said item. They LOSE something, they leave with LESS than they started with. In the case of content, they aren't STEALING it...stealing indicated theft, theft indicates loss. You have LOST nothing. You still have your skin, therefore, they are not, in fact, stealing it. Its the same with the music industry. At least though, with music, they can claim a loss, because they lost the sale. You aren't selling anything, so you have no argument. Also, Last I checked, there is no way to upload a license with the image, so you can't even claim copyright infringement. While you legally hold the copyright, without a license, it falls under "fair use" and therefor, they can use it.

As for not knowing what I'm talking about... Nope, I don't skin cars for LFS. The texture mapping is horrendous at best. I've got about 10 cars I've done...only 2 uploaded to lfsworld because the others are incomplete. As games go, the mapping of the models is very bad. A 25 pixel square on the hood is generally not the same size on the model as a 25 pixel square on the door. That's a HUGE no-no when it comes to serious modeling/texturing. Frankly, I don't feel the need to waste my time trying to work around it.

However, I do spend around 10-15 hours a week contributing to various open-source development projects. All free, all open source, and all GPL licensed (anyone can copy, modify, and redistribute any code I create at their leisure, as long as they leave my license info in the file). Frankly, I think that content creators who try to keep anyone from using their content, or only allow its use with restrictive terms, are greedy, self-serving, poor examples of humanity. Theres a time and a place to make money off of content creation, when its offered as a service, ok. Development shops, software developers, and artists that actually provide their skills as paid services are fine. People who do it for a hobby, put it out there for anyone (generally more of a "bragging" type thing) and bitch when someone uses it that they don't like are quite despicable.

If you don't want someone to use your skin, don't give it to them. Simple as that. Your argument is juvenile and defensive, which means it should hardly be taken seriously. By putting your skin on lfsworld.com, you are, in-fact, GIVING it to everyone you race with, and you are doing so without license or restriction. If you don't like it, don't upload it. If you create skins because you like it, then keep them to yourself. But thats not really it, you want everyone to see it, you want the attention, you have the need to feel recognition for your work, and that's perfectly ok, thats normal behavior in every aspect. However, unless LFS integrates some sort of license system or encryption setup, anything you upload is considered "fair use" material, and that means people can use, modify, and redistribute. The only thing they can do that would be marginally illegal, would be to profit from it...and thats still a very gray line.

You are officialy boring...

Quote from rjm1982 :

"f I or someone else make a PERSONNAL skin, its to keep it personal because this person want to be original and dont wanna see the firt nooby twat wear it thinking that he will be better with a nice skin."

Frankly, its no longer a "personal" skin when you upload it to a "public" server. It's "public" a that point, and your juvenile rant is moot.

Basically, you're uploading content to be given freely to those who race you. You know that's the deal.

You have 2 choices here.

1) Upload your content so people can see it. Obviously for them to display said content, it has to reside on their system. Once content is no longer in your hands, you've lost the ability to control it. You know this already, so the simple act of uploading is sort-of a de-facto agreement to that.

2) Don't upload your content. Easy as that.

Encryption/Password locking are dumb ideas. At the least, they will slow the process down. At worst, they are useless. A password is only good until its figured out. At that point it doesn't matter anymore, because you can't simply change the password in the next version of lfs, because it would break all the skins you had downloaded. Frankly, I would rather the devs work on the game, and not play content-nanny for you.

LoL you are so funny...
Why dont upload my content, its a feature. Stealing skin is not a feature its acting like a twat.

Once I see you on the street (public place) I will stole your personal effects coz I consider they are public...

I bet that you don't make skins so don't speak about something you can't understand.

PS : Obsolum, I dont need to grow up ppl who dont respect the work of the other need....

Last edited by waider, Thu 30 Aug 2007, 22:50.

Quote from blackcarmafia :

then he probably play on some backwards servers where u dont get benned .. and where really litle ppl actualy see ur skin

After all that make me furious to see this kind of act but I'am also happy coz people who do that make me feel pity.
And for those who say that there not any copyright or shit like "you should be happy" are totally wrong. If I or someone else make a PERSONNAL skin, its to keep it personal because this person want to be original and dont wanna see the firt nooby twat wear it thinking that he will be better with a nice skin.

Quote from Vykos69 :

Just my 2 cents:

About 99.9% of all skins use non licensed textures, logos etc. itself, you want to license them? And who's gonna pay the lawsuits from the big companies then?

The moment, you upload the skin, you give it free to everyone to use, and should be proud, if people use them. It's one of the coolest way to show that you like something, if you use it.

You probably say that because you suck at skinning. For people who are good at skinning its really disaponting to see a bitch who steal your stuff.
I just see that someone upload my skin on his LFSW account since now I cant put my "twat" version of it. But I have is account name so each time I play I check if he is not online and go to ram him with all my heart!!

Ouch Niko that might hurt!!!

Quote from Smurfen :

it didn't use to be good go on my youtube profile and look on my first vids xD

So you're modest! Personnally I like your work, it is entertaining! So for me its good.

Good work as usual from you!

Quote from mixer13134 :

Who does it belong to? Maybe it's the same guy who the skin belongs to?:P

It is motary's private skin, and that person on the picture is motary, so theres nothing wrong.

Pwnd! I LoL'd

There is my brand new skin specially made for the IGP SL. Its my first attempt at making a body kit so maybe its not that good!



Credits goes to Charlie for the screen! Thanks m8
Credits goes to Kelu for the diffuser (all the other parts are made by me)

Really fun to see, and nice music!

Quote from Mistikal :

Yes i know its not a word, i just used the chars to make it look like its says drift , and before you start to tell others how to spell you might want to take a lesson in English my friend...ive seen 10years olds that with better grammar than you

Why take english lessons? I don't care about english, I've learn it by myself and my current level is enough for my needs!
Instead of you I just don't use something to "make it look like".
Its easy for a 10 years old english speaker to own me in english since its not my native language and since I learn other languages than this one!!

Quote from Mista Tea :

lol their not random. If you look closely ull see that it says Drift.

Nice skin but if you look at the real falken team skin, theres that blue-greenish color, theres a blue and a light blue.

Good job tho!

LoL please don't make me laugh!! When you don't know how to read katakana just don't argue on what is write!!

Drift is writted like that ドリフト (I bet that you'll can't read it coz your pc doesnt display japanese caracters).
On his plate he juste write something which means nothing ("fumaechii"), if you consider that those caracters are use to write, foreign words and names.

Nice screens, but Nismo + Denso on same car!! And some logos are cutted!!

I'am sorry but its private, but check out on masterskinnerz or lfs-torque.net et you'll can get some nice body kits (or advices to make your own).

Random japanese syllabic characters on the plate are evil, + that look stupid!