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Victor
Developer
Quote from NotAnIllusion :OT: LFSW was also not responding to /w and /ws commands yesterday evening.

Thanks for the report.
When those commands did not work, did you at least see PB messages on time and not delayed and then bursted like now?
Victor
Developer
As you mention mixed content and DNSSEC in one sentence, I must ask how do they relate?
I've never understood DNSSEC (although I've never took the time to understand it properly).

The mixed content is a concern yeah. In ie8 (higher ie's as well? don't know) you get a whole popup warning, which annoying. And it's not _really_ secure anymore then (although afaik not less secure than no ssl).

The certificate is 12 pounds or so. Hardly a burdon!
Victor
Developer
yeah i fixed it after his post
Victor
Developer
works again
Victor
Developer
You can also drag and drop skins onto the skins window now, to upload them. There is no limit on the number of skins you can upload with drag and drop in one go (apart from your skin-slots limit of course).
Victor
Developer
Well there are some downsides. It can also give a false sense of security. There will be mixed content (when people link to external non https sites) and potentially malicious external sites can still access your browser's contents. Of course that is a plain http problem as well, but people may think that because they load a https site, it's all safe. Then again, I don't think that's a big problem here. Making things https only certainly wouldn't add to that problem, so yeah I think I'll make the switch then.
Victor
Developer
meh ok i see. I was wrong about the cookies only caring about the domain.
Euhmm... this is an easy fix. I can make the cookies be valid on both http and https. But I see the point in https-only cookies. But then I should indeed force https on all requests.
Thinking for a bit .. over dinner ..
Victor
Developer
wow ok I can actually replicate this on chrome.
well, that warrants a closer look.
Victor
Developer
That sounds like a shortcoming in your browser. Cookies should not care about http or https (not 100% true, but for this purpose it is). The domain is all that matters.
So if your browser logs you in for https://www.lfsforum.net but not for http://www.lfsforum.net then that is a bug in your browser.
Can you try that on http://www.lfs.net and https://www.lfs.net ?

PS I am actually considering forcing https on the forums. As a start, you'll get https links in forum update emails from now on.
Victor
Developer
raight.
The site was always redirecting via php from lfsforum.net to www.lfsforum.net . I guess that is related. I've now made the webserver redirect instead which I think should help in cases like these.
Victor
Developer
Quote from Nadeo4441 :Ok, I got it. Vic, you might be surprised

So, a couple of months ago, I changed my password from a OLD one to a NEW one. When I try to log in on the forum with the NEW one, It logs me in but the weird cookies get issued. So I got an idea and logged in with my OLD password, and I got a message that the password is incorrect and I have 5 tries left. The strange thing is that I got logged in anyway. I think this might be a bug

btw, my cookies are now set to expire at 2014

//edit: I changed my password through lfs.net

that .. is very strange. I really don't see how a new AND old password can log you in. Maybe those cookies were messed up a bit and were finally reset when the password value changed. And they were not removed properly before .. but then how would you be logged out .. erh, weird.
At least I'm pretty damn sure noone can 'just login'.
Victor
Developer
oh sure, 7 days is kinda conservative indeed, for an innocent cookie like this. Changed to 365 days now.
Victor
Developer
sure. ask away.
I read every (new) thread in this section btw.
Victor
Developer
actually if you don't check the box, the bbpassword cookie shouldn't exist (which is the point of the remember me box, to not store the password in a cookie if you don't want that).

But yeah, strange expiration date. At least that explains why those cookies are removed after closing the browser. But of course the new questions is, why the faulty expiration date? hummm no idea atm.
Victor
Developer
When you log in, you do keep the 'Remember Me?' option checked?
You can check that these cookies actually exist after logging in, by finding the bbuserid and bbpassword cookies for lfsforum.net . Check their expiration date.
Victor
Developer
Maybe the following option is checked :

Settings -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Cookies -> Delete new cookies when exiting Opera

though I suspect you've already seen that. But I have no other idea.
Oh, is your computer's clock running on time?
Victor
Developer
yep a well known one. But I think you'll agree with me that there is only one thing that has absolute priority. After that though ...
But let's not tell Scawen is what I'm saying
Victor
Developer
Quote from dekojester :The biggest challenge in any form of motorsports is a 24 hour long endurance race. You are required to be on pace for all 24 hours, and although mistakes do have time to be caught up, it stresses yourself more and your car more, leading the possibility of compounding mistakes.
... snip ...

Hey deko, it would be totally awesome if you could copy paste that into lfs news next time It misses your leagues
Victor
Developer
Quote from MrSam :We are lovers of this simulator and we realize that it is dying slowly.
also feel upset that Victor say the 2 teams that works are more attractive because it is better organized.
I think this is a mistake from Victor to advertise for some teams.

Many people make a lot and spend a lot of time and spent a lot of money for the LFS to stay alive and say that there are two good teams, there's plenty to be upset for other teams.

Criticize teams ok but the Devs can be criticized also

You're right. I didn't realise that my post would insult people. That certainly was not my intention and I apologise.
I was just writing about something I noticed the other day. Something that struct out at me. But I should have thought it through more thoroughly and in hindsight, I could have gathered some stats to see what's actually happening.
I've done that now. A simple count of who races where at the time of writing. How many licensed racers actually race on licensed hosts or demo hosts?
It turns out not that many licensed racers are on demo hosts.

Demo hosts : 87
Licensed hosts : 46
(hosts with racers in them)

Demo on demo : 325
Licensed on demo : 37
Licensed on licensed : 244

Demo on demo (cruise) : 104
Licensed on demo (cruise) : 6
Licensed on licensed (cruise) : 135

(this list does not include the demo users on the 0.5X hosts)

So I think (and looking at the list of hosts) there are just many licensed people racing on hosts with a few others. Maybe those are hosts with friends. People who joined the host for a specific reason, and not to find a random race host. That would at least explain why these hosts do not show up high on a list of hosts sorted by occupation (answering my own question here, which I should have done from the start).
Of course this is involves a bit of speculation.

hmm, well I hope I didn't upset anyone this time I really don't meant to. I was trying to find an aswer to a question i had.

Also I didn't mean to derail this thread. So let's say something about the topic : I don't think limiting the demo is a good thing. One of the biggest reasons is indeed that demo accounts are easily created.
Victor
Developer
Quote from Frunze118 :I write, because there are many full demo servers, some hosters focussed on demo, but I know only 1 s2 servers hoster that have full servers - cargame.nl, other servers are just empty ( I mean racing servers ) but there are few good cruise and drift servers with enough players.

I agree with your quoted text. It occurred to me the other day that cargame was jam-packed 47/47 and there was not a single other S2 host occupied. So there is room for some more well run S2 hosts I think. People who wanted to join cargame couldn't and would try to find another of its kind. The [AA] hosts are popular as well, but all demo hosts. But it goes to show that well organised hosts attract people and keep them coming back.
Victor
Developer
Quote from dawesdust_12 :Hi Vic:

Modern Web browsers now support the addition of multiple file uploads in 1 POST request (without multiple upload input fields).

Ok, that's done.
It is now possible to upload up to 20 skins in one go.
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