There we go, the sequel to the onboard video above. Here are laps 17 to 20.

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Last edited by Vain, Tue 23 Jan 2007, 21:08.

Quote from Julppu :

Somehow those to quotes don't fit... How can one be into machines and not notice their broken souls when they are discarded?

Of course I do. My heart also breaks when I have to leave one of my beloved ones. (Right now I'm sad because you made me remember those cars! Damn you!)
But still, they don't go haywire and do stupid things when they face the inevitable.

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Another one that's rather on the creative side: A "You're doing it wrong"-avatar month (uncreative idea, I know). I'm sure there are a lot of good possibilities for that one.
I wonder wether I can get my hands on a screenshot from the jaffa-challenge for that one .

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Cats, film villains and LFS wrecks get my vote.

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Well, you're talking to a man who watches onboard-videos of cars doing one or more laps on the Nordschleife daily. I don't have any onboard-videos that are shorter than 10 minutes.
I'll record the last few laps later.

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1. The video was captured in realtime with fraps at constant 25 fps. So no fps loss at all. I don't know how many fps my pc would've generated if I hadn't put in the fps-restrictor. I capture in half-screen mode at 640x480 with full AA/AF. That makes the end result 320x240, which is the resolution youtube and google-video resize it to anyway.
(It's a E6300, 7900GS, 1GB DDR2 RAM and two harddiscs. LFS and virtualdub on one, fraps on the other.)
It's just a quick job. The video is supposed to need few production time but show much racing. I think it does that well.
2. @Tomi: I watched a few of those. Looked like it was some nice fun . But if you use trackside-cameras, try choosing them so that the viewer gets an overview over the layout. Or use a plain onboard-cam, perfect overview, minimum effort. Though I personally dislike in-eye views.
3. Yesterday I fraps'd another replay. This is #83 Harjula aka frokki opening a nice can of classic FXO-whoop-ass on the rest of the field in round 3 of the STCC. The shown laps are 3 to 12, where he makes it from basically the end of the field to 6th (finished 5th). On request I can capture the rest of it. The STCC broadcast showed only the very last seconds of the later fight. (The STCC might be the only series complaining about too much action on the track .)

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I was hoping for cat-pictures avatar month. MONORAIL CAT!

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Quote from niffer022 :

but on an other note, you will prob loose intrest in all that car business when you finally get laid, because that always has a better ending

No it doesn't. Cars don't go haywire and scream at you and do silly stuff when you dump them.

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No, nothing wrong with you. Most of us are here because of that passion.
Actually, right now, I'm not listening to music but to the sound of an onboard video of a Gallardo doing the Nordschleife. Thrills me everytime.
Read my signature.

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Basically you did win. The WR for the FZ5 is a second quicker than the WR for the LX6, and I finished by no means 5 seconds earlier than you did. We'll see on saturday.
I did the video in one afternoon. It did take me a bit time to get the compression sorted out, but apart from that it was very simple. I'll try to make the one or the other additional onboard-video from other replays I have flying around to encourage more people to do similar things.

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Hi.

I have a nice folder on my PC with all kinds of videos. Those about LFS are always artistic clips with music, those from real racing are always plain onboard-goodness. I often wondered why that is so.
So one day I went and fraps'd a replay from my LFS-folder with onboard-cams and cut it together for viewing pleasure in virtualdub. Here is the result. A 5 lap race between Hyperactive and me at Aston Historic (practice for round 1 of the LFS LeMans league).
Nothing fancy, just plain onboard shots from two cameras - I switched between them so you get to see the best angle. But the timeline is correct and no split second is lost. I only once used a trackside-camera because in one situation neither of the two onboard-cams captured the action well. If you watch it, count the laps - the fights get better the closer the finish line comes.

Please consider that I don't want to show off with this video (I was actually rather slow...). I want to inspire people (like you!) to do the same so I get to see your onboard-shots. It was really simple to do this and basically everyone can do it.

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No need to grab the torch and pitchfork, Sam .
@duke_toaster:
I often suggest things that I really enjoyed to other members of forums I participate in. e.g. I talked about Richard Burns Rally in this forum, and the people here also enjoyed it. And I started a discussion about the live for speed in a different forum, because I think that other people can also enjoy it. Of course I place such a thread in the offtopic-section so people are aware that this is not crucial info and may be skipped when just browsing the forum.
If don't like that then that's your beef. I have generally recieved positive feedback from such action, but you're free to have an own opinion about that.

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You got the cause of the problem just right.
Reduce exhaust volume, increase speaker volume.

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Actually, of course videogames influence people. Rather ask yourself: What doesn't influence people?

After that you can discuss what exact influence things have.

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ghostcar isn't a object of the gameworld, so it doesn't have physics, but yes, you could write an application that makes a pacecar appear on everyone's screen if everyone runs that program. It'd look mostly like a normal LFS car. But actually it's easier to just make the admin drive the pacecar himself.

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Quote from Shotglass :

at least according to 'bild'

:slap:

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Quote from jamesgp2viper :

This is a real breakthrough, there really is nothing stopping us from making killer engine sounds

There are still some sound-sources missing.
Listen closely to onboard footage and you'll hear the engine sounds which we can approximate nicely, the gearwhine which sometimes fits, sometimes doesn't, and some other influences, most propably resonance from the chassis, and of course the obvious noise sources of things in a racecar that rattle, the occasional burp from the engine when off the throttle, squeaking brakediscs and dampers, etc.

Just a wild guess, but I think a simulated plain metal sheet (linear differential equotation of second order of three variables) with the correct constraints would propably deliver good results as a resonator. Though it'd propably need a lot of work to deliver something lifelike...

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1. It's about violent games only.
2. It's about selling them to kids.

3. Even if they banned videogames - I'm already forced to do so many illegal things on my computer it's rediculous.

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Give your engine sounds a few days time to settle. Everytime I listen to my engine sounds I think of something to improve. Then I save them and the next time I think of something different to improve, etc.
Also listen to some onboard-footage to see wether you still have the right things in your mind when editing.

By the way, the comparison of real life versus LFS makes me think that LFS's gearwhine is a bit off. I can hit the right pitch and volume, but it still sounds very monotoneous. No matter the muffler-settings.

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I don't have any experience with Steam, but I'm critical about software that can disable itself if it decides it doesn't want me to use it anymore.

"I am root!"

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Maybe they want to be recognized on sight as the muppets they are?
(Sorry...)

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Now that's pretty nice.
I had a go at it and it is a very powerful tool. I managed to achieve good results without using a software equalizer in a very short time.
I'll show a comparison when I've spend a couple of hours on it.

But honestly, Scawen, where did you get the idea for *those* settings?

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Quote from Michael Denham :

and good enough to learn reasonable lines to get around on your first go there.

Exactly that's what I mean. You can digitally learn which line to drive. But you shouldn't learn where it's safe to brake or where you can accelerate. Real life will be different from that.

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My personal tip:
Don't "learn" it with a videogame. Use onboard-footage to memorize the corners. Drive it with some sim once or twice to see wether you remember everything well, but don't burn down 20 laps in any simulator, it'll hurt your perception because of the deficiencies of the game.
For onboard-footage: www.renn.tv

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Go and buy Richard Burns Rally now!

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