teamName: Heroes of Racing
teamManager: {Jueweb, Jürgen Weber}
teamViceManagers:
- {Mensafest, Christian Ecker}
- {TFalke55, Thilo Falkenberg}
drivers:
- {Jueweb, Jürgen Weber, Germany}
- {Mensafest, Christian Ecker, Austria}
- {TFalke55, Thilo Falkenberg, Germany}
car: FXR
number: 31

Personally, I am a fan of the Nürburgring Endurance Series point system, that I also use for the Open E ... I (irregularily) organise. It gives similar points for similar positions, but a first place with 10 cars is worth more then a first place with 9 cars.

Also I think that Rony's point system he uses in the Tuesday Fun Races, which also experience some grid fluctuations, works good.

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Point system:
1st=10
2nd=9
3rd=8
4th=7
5th=6
6th=5
7th=4
8th=3
9th=2
10th and lower=1
(must finish 50% of race distance to score these points)
* System based on 10 drivers starting,extra 1 point for every 3 drivers more starting the race - this adds extra positions to receive more than 1 point.

1st in q=3
2nd in q=2
3rd in q=1
(if not finished -1p from q points as a "penalty" for not finishing race)
* System based on 10 drivers qualifyinging,extra 1 point for every 6 drivers more taking part in qualifying - this adds more positions to score points.

At the end of the day, drivers are motivated to drive a particular car, when it is fun to drive in the first place. That's something I cannot assess just seeing restriction charts.

While the core idea is novel, the problem is that such a grouping splits the drivers quite drastically imo. For endurance racing such a split might be interesting, as multiclass is a regular part of endurance racing in many series, be it reallife or sim racing leagues. In a sprint format it is just splitting it into three parallel races, as lap traffic won't really occur, it does not add anything to the race for the driver.

Also, the FIA point system does not really work in such a situation: you are scoring more then twice the points as a winner of a 10 car grid compared to a 6 car grid and it gets even worse with less cars are around.

Imho the whole discussion about currencies, who earns what etc. still is more complicated as buying powers don't completely translate with a simple currency exchange rate. There are even such effects within the same country, i.e. the general prize level in an expensive city is higher even for daily goods.

At the end of the day, the price for the product Live for Speed is a business decision by the developers, who have to pay their bills as well to offer their services. And they have to pay their bills in their currency, which may or may not be different to the currency of the place you live in.

Hmmm... I have the feeling the atmosphere in this thread spiralled out of control. Can we somehow set the clock back to when it was released? Of course I know this is not possible... Not at this stage at least.
Anyways I'm looking forward to the fun new opportunities and creative solutions this patch will bring. Already some interesting leagues popped up, I hope they will succeed even when novelty wears off.

About this "potential exploit" with the handbrakes... I think it might be a similar situation to the buttonclutch, that there is a feature of the game, that is used by people it was not designed for to gain an advantage in league racing. If there were more information about the driver settings available via InSim (best about both) I guess server owners and league organisers could find solutions how to takle these in competetive environments.

I'm sadly out for that one as well. Wish all drivers good luck and fun around the streets of Westhill

Quote from botagas :

99/botagas/Patrikas Č./Lithuania/XRR/2673

I'd like to avoid posting sensitive information (last name) on the forum, would it be okay if I send that through PMs or Discord instead?

The problem is though, and you should be aware of this, that your last name will be used for the official results and other media purposes, so it'll contact jonathon.provost or dekojester via pm, they'll surely advise you what to do.

Yeah also have seen them in many stores and supermarkets at the check-out. They really seem to be quite easily obtainable

I sadly won't make it tomorrow. Everyone good luck and have fun!

First thing I noticed was just when watching the cars race, it is hard to tell who is on what tyres. It'd be nice to have that information in the F11 menu as well (not sure if it is part of Insim). That'd make it easier to monitor/admin the race.

EDIT: I just realised the F9 menu gives it away pretty clearly - still it'd be nice to have a clear entry in the menus.

Other then that it is fun to play around at this stage. The RX versions could provide some different flavour of racing and might make the restricted GTRs more different/interesting to drive as well. However, I did too little GTR racing in the recent years to be a good testimonial. I hope others have more input.

Last edited by TFalke55, Tue 9 Feb 2021, 20:36. Reason : F9 menu shows it well apparently

To be frank, damage repair in LFS is already (too?) quick... Suspension damage only takes a couple of seconds to solve whereas the motorsport mechanics would need a couple of minutes at least (Le Mans style or Verstappen's crew in Hungary last season).
It would be nice to know what kind of damage the engine damage shall represent in the first place, i.e. derive from endurance races how much time the repair would need.
I'd rather see a (maybe even imperfect) real life based metric then some postulated time. If that damage is fixed by component change, then it should be a fixed time rather then a sliding scale for example.

Then again, that would need quite some research, I guess.

Quote from Scawen :

Command /showfuel (no/yes) allows remote car fuel load to be seen

That is an interesting command. I'd like to suggest adding an "admin" option there. I could think of situations where it may be of interest for the race administration to know the fuel load while racers might want to keep their strategies secret.

NO/Tfalke55/55

Quote from Features_Gaming :

Changed number from 44 to 99 as sadly 44 was taken.
the team name is the same, just changed all letters to be captials

Number 99 is also taken. Please take a look at the sign-up list attached to the opening post: https://www.lfs.net/forum/post/1961294#post1961294

At the time of this post the following numbers are available:
37 38 39 41 42 48 49 51 52 65 68 70 71 78 79 84 96 97

Last edited by TFalke55, Wed 13 Jan 2021, 13:19. Reason : updated the list of available numbers

Quote from Scawen :

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There is only one way I can think of that this could be done, and that would be to watch a live replay, slightly behind time. I was thinking about this when watching a race on Sim Broadcasts. As mentioned, increasing pps may bring some small benefits, but cannot improve things anywhere near as much as some people seem to think. Packet frequency cannot solve latency. I was thinking if the commentator of sim broadcasts could have one instance of LFS saving a MPR, and another instance watching that MPR, a second or two behind time, this could in theory allow two things.

1) the smoothing you see in replays
2) allow rewind to replay something interesting before switching back to real time

I do know this isn't very easy. I'm not sure how far away it is from being possible but I'll have a look into it.

Thinking of that aspect: Would it be possible then that the "live mpr" is on some server that streams it to clients that are connected to that server and watch the race as a spectator without having to connect to the servers?

While endurance races are not as popular as they used to be, it was usually a problem that people wanted to watch the race server side to coach/"race engineer" their team mates. With the current connection limit there usually are rules or gentlemen agreements in place to only connect to right before a driver takes over from his team mate and disconnect right after it.

#31 Heroes of Racing

https://www.lfs.net/attachment/209640

in the options you can say yes to "AI uses player setup" "AI uses player livery". So the workflow is to change your car, and add an AI that has the properties of your car. The same goes for multi-car races: You change your car and then add one that is equal to yours.

NO/Tfalke55/55

Concerning the tyres, on the one hand it is opening a can of worms, I guess, but it would be rather interesting to have all compounds available to all cars (well not the single seaters). It would open up options and it could be assessed how viable these options turn out to be. While not perfectly realistic, if you use a steet legal car in a race you most likely use slick tyres as well, so from that point of view, it would make sense to open it up.

Quote from TFalke55 :

55/TFalke55/Thilo Falkenberg/Germany/Heroes of Racing

due to personal commitments I sadly won't make the rest of the season. I wish everyone good luck and fun for the remaining races.

So this might not be a real discussion thread but more "fan fiction" or "fan lore". We recently discussed in a discord what brands there are in LFS and what cars they produce. It was more an effort to sort them into categories rather then anything else.

So basically we have the following fictitious brands:

• FX - FXO Turbo & FXO GTR
  
• FZ - FZ 50 & FZ 50 GTR
  
• RB - RB4 GT
  
• LX - LX4 & LX6
  
• UF - UF 1000 & UF GTR
  
• XF - XF GTI & XF GTR
  
• XR - XR GT, XR GT Turbo, XR GTR & Formula XR
  
• ?? (unbranded) - Formula V8
  

What do you think? What kind of companies are those and what might be their history? Is there "official lore" i never came across?

I'm looking forward to your answers and hope for a good discussion.

LFSW name: TFalke55
In-game name: HoR Falke
Full team name: Heroes of Racing
Nation: Germany

teamName: simbroadcasts.tv
teamManager: {mbutcher, Peter Butcher}
teamViceManagers:
- {Degats, Chris McElroy}
- {TFalke55, Thilo Falkenberg}
drivers:
- {TFalke55, Thilo Falkenberg, Germany}
- {tmehlinger, Travis Mehlinger, USA}
- {Kid222, Zdeněk Cagaš, Czechia}
car: RB4
number: 9

#55 Heroes of Racing entry

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