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TFalke55
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The start of the league is postponed by a fortnight due to low sign-up numbers.
#NWLSimRacing - Nation's World League on facebook
TFalke55
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Hey everyone!

I launched a facebook page for the NWL to spread the information also to LFS racers, who do not check the LFS forum regularily. Wave

https://www.facebook.com/NWLSimRacing/
Nations World League Season 3 Sporting Rules
TFalke55
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Here are the sporting rules of the Nations World League Season 3.

Fairness
  1. The on-track behaviour complies with the Rules of Clean Racing.
  2. Protests and appeals can be filed in the corresponding thread until Tuesday 19:00 UTC after the race.
  3. If a driver is found guilty, penalties will be applied at admin's discretion. Generally the penalties shall be applied to the session the infraction took place. In severe cases drivers and/or nations can be excluded from competiton.
  4. If a penalty cannot be applied to the session of infraction, the penalty can be converted to a grid penalty for the next round.
Course of events
  1. The events start as it is stated in schedule. Times are given in coordinated universal time, UTC.
  2. Qualifying is an open server practice session. There are no restrictions, times are tracked via Airio. Once the server is set to the next combo, the laps are registered to qualifiyng. The session will be set private one hour before the start of the race.
  3. The time trail is an autocross session scheduled for a race distance, where all drivers drive the distance individually. The starting order is derived from the tracked qualifying times. Due to the restrictions of the sessions by Live for Speed, contact with movable objects may result in time penalties.
  4. Race is a race session started by a standing start. The starting order is given by the result of the previous session.
  5. Rallycross is a series of short races with small grids. Every driver competes in 4 heat races. The best 12 drivers of the heat races, based on their added up finishing times from the heat races, advance into the two semifinals à 6 cars. The podium finishers of both semifinals advance into the finale.
  6. The head-to-head event is a series of short races, where two cars directly compete with each other on a Moebius strip track. The drivers are split into groups, based on their qualifying results. The best four drivers advance into semifinals, of which the winners advance into the finale.
  7. During the races rejoining is allowed at any time. However it is under all circumstances penelised by the loss of one lap.
Scoring

Driver who completed 75% of a race distance are eligable for championship points. For more information on the championship standings and the calculation of championship and cup points, please read the Championship Standings thread.
Nations World League Season 3 Skins
TFalke55
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Here is the place to post your skins. The scoring scheme states a bonus points for the usage. Please also upload them here.

Colour scheme

A National Skin is a skin for cars used in NWL. It uses a colour scheme reflecting the national colours (e.g. red, white and blue for the United States or baby blue and white for Argentinia) and/or colours traditionally used in sports (e.g. white and black for Germany, green and gold for Australia, blue for Italy).

National Flags and Coat Of Arms

The usage of national symbols such as the coat of arms might be restricted, please make sure this is unproblematic for you.

Required elements

The skin shall display the (short) name of the nation in English and/or the national language. If the national language uses a script different from the Latin alphabet (e.g. Cyrillic) please also give the English (short) name. Moreover please use the ISO 3166 ALPHA-3 country code, written on the number plate attatched to the post.
You may also add your name to the skin.

And last but not least:
Quote from https://www.lfs.net/account/skins/upload :
Skin regulations

DO NOT upload skins with offensive images!
If a skin that contains nudity, pornographic, racist or any other offensive content is uploaded, the skin(s) will be removed without notice and you will no longer be allowed to upload skins here.

Keep it fun, people of all ages play LFS.

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TFalke55
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I updated the opening post rephrasing the information to hopefully make them more digestible.
TFalke55
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Thanks for pointing out Rony, getting mixed up in all the updates. Tongue

I updated the race distances to about 70 minutes.
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Nations World League Season 3 Sign-Ups
TFalke55
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To sign-up for the NWL Season 3 please provide the following information:

Quote :
LFS-License-Name:
Ingame Name:

The nation you are competing for will be determined by the country you entered in your personal details. However only UN-member nations will be accepted (e.g. England = United Kingdom, Greenland = Denmark, ...).

The name format for the events will use the ISO 3166 ALPHA-3 abbreviations:
XYZ IngameName
  1. Finland (FIN) - 9397 (lucaf)
  2. Latvia (LVA) - RG^Rony (Eclipsed)
  3. Latvia (LVA) - A.Laipnieks (Laipnieks)
  4. Latvia (LVA) - [STO]A.Rozītis (Zaabis)
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Nations World League Season 3 Championship Standings
TFalke55
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General point scale

The general point system is a linear point system with 40 championship points awarded to the winner and 1 championship point awarded for a 40th place finisher. So the runner-up receives 39 points, the last podium spot 38 points, a 10th place finisher 31 points and so on.
f(p)=41-p

Position / Points
1 / 40
2 / 39
3 / 38
4 / 37
5 / 36
...
40 / 1

In events that are composites of multiple sessions each session awards points for the respective position, however multiplied by a factor, every event scores the same amount of points. For the opening round of a time trail session and a race session, the points are halved for each, for the third round with the XF GTI at Westhill National the points for each race will be split into thirds. For the rallycross round and the "Race of Champions"-style head-to-head event the final standings are taken for the points.

Points are awarded for finishing at least 75% of the (winner's) race distance.

NWL Driver's Cup points

The Driver's Cup points are scored as per the general point scale. The cup winner is the driver with the most points scored throughout the season, however the worst two results will be dropped. Not competing in a round equals scoring zero points. The usage of a national skin will be awarded with an additional bonus point.

NWL Championship points

The Nation's World League Championship is contested by the nations represented by the drivers. The best 50% of the drivers will be averaged, however when two drivers compete, both results will be averaged. To compensate the decrease in the maximum number of points with more drivers included to the average, bonus points are awarded.

Number of racers / Number of racers counted in average / bonus points
1 / 1 / 0.0
2 / 2 / 0.5
3 / 2 / 0.5
4 / 2 / 0.5
5 / 3 / 1.0
6 / 3 / 1.0
7 / 4 / 1.5
8 / 4 / 1.5
9 / 5 / 2.0
10 / 5 / 2.0
...

The usage of one national skin will be awarded with an additional bonus point per driver using it, if all are using it.

If this point system had been in use for Season 2, the title would still have been on the line in the final round and the title would have eventually been won by Lithuania.
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[cancelled] Nations World League Season 3 Schedule
TFalke55
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  1. 10 Feb 2018 - XF GTR (XFR) @ South City Town reversed (SO5r) - 24 lap time trail + 24 lap race
  2. 24 Feb 2018 - XR GT Turbo (XRT) @ Rockingham Oval (RO3) - 100 lap race
  3. 10 Mar 2018 - XF GTI (XFG) @ Westhill National (WE1) - 12 lap race + 12 lap race + 12 lap race
  4. 24 Mar 2018 - RB4 GT (RB4) @ Fern Bay Rallycross Green reversed (FE6r) - rallycross event (6 lap heat races + 10 lap semi-final and final races)
  5. 07 Apr 2018 - FZ 50 (FZ5) @ Blackwood Historic reversed (BL2r) - 51 lap race
  6. 21 Apr 2018 - UF GTR (UFR) @ Blackwood Car Park (BL4) - head-to-head event (1 lap heat races + 2 lap semi-final and final races)
  7. 05 May 2018 - XR GT (XRG) @ Aston Cadet (AS1) - 33 lap race + 33 lap race
  8. 19 May 2018 - FZ GTR (FZR) @ Fern Bay Gold reversed (FE3r) - 2 hour race
until 19:50UTC qualifying via tracker/airio
20:00UTC start of the first race
The times will be moved 1 hour according to the introduction of daylight saving time in central Europe from round 5 onward.
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TFalke55
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LFSW name: TFalke55
In-game name: HoR Falke
Full team name: Heroes of Racing
Nation: Germany
TFalke55
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I shared the news on facebook, on twitter and in the RaceDepartment forums. ISRTV.com seems to have deleted all LFS posts/threads. I don't remember any of my other accounts. Uhmm

Edit: And I shared it on two team forums.
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TFalke55
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The results:
TFalke55
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Quote from dekojester :We'll spare you the full history lesson for now.

Oh... That's a real shame! Schwitz
TFalke55
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Quote from gaboteam :They already added new Track with S3 so that door must be open I think.

The difference is that Rockingham was modelled by Eric (within his workflow), based on the TLS data gathered from APR Services, who only delivered the point cloud.
TFalke55
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Quote from gaboteam :see pictures, Red line is line I have and its over on Google Map image, there are some ares not perfect but you should consider elevation + SVG is not 100% perfect and small tweaks is nothing, I say its perfect! (I take center 1 curve from SVG, not sides)... If you can give me source for better data please let me know, for now I am working with what I can see and find + I attached Height Map (best I could find) that makes elevate my track curve...base width is 8 meter and I should resize some areas manually, minimum width is about 6 meter as I read.

I did some research. Sadly Rhineland-Palatinate does not provide an digital elevation model for free. For this context the only usefull free products of the state department of surveying and geoinformation are the digital orthophotos. Each pixel is georeferenced in ETRS/UTM32 and 40cm by 40cm sized, so you coud use it to trimm the xy-geometry.

EDIT: I removed the link as I realised you need to be registerd and egliable to use the data to download it. The other way would be using the WMS, but that is quite a pain, as the geoportal already was...

Quote from gaboteam :current length of track is 20674 meter, that is very close to 20.81 km

Considering the method, 6,5% off is astonishingly good.


Quote from lucaf :Assetto and IRacing already serving laser scanned version of modern version of Nordschleife (20.8km), maybe some other sim also.

Quote from Bila_KHS :like 9397 said, ASseto na iRacing already have this track soo there is a possibility for sure.

I'm aware of the laserscans for AC and iR. The difference is that for a laserscan you need to cooperate from the beginning with the company, so all necessery negotiations will already have completed when the surveyers are contracted for the scan. Here we have someone dedicated to complete the project all by himself with the slight hope that the developers of the game being able and willing to include it to the game. This also makes it different to rF, where the users add the tracks etc themselves while dedicated people provide the data. I believe from this difference consequences could derive and all the legal stuff would need to be solved before a drivable version could be released.
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TFalke55
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I'd love to drive the track again in a game I like. But I have some concerns on legal problems. I don't know what trademarks and copyrights belong to the Nürburgring 1927 GmbH & Co. KG. The likeness of the track could be one of those things.

You said the geometry of the track comes from an SVG and that it would be a perfect match on Google Earth? How did you check that exactly, if I'm allowed to ask. I can immagine that the SVG might be a basis for the axis of the road just with a constant width given to it. Also the SVG might be drawn from a map with unknown heritage (What map projection was used?). since it is also generalised I would think it was a miracle if it fit perfectly.

You said the elevation is taken from that map you attached. I don't know how far Rhineland-Palatinate (the German federal state the Nürburgring belongs to) is in terms of the open data initiative as part of INSPIRE*, but maybe they have already released a digital elevation model (usually ASCII-Files with xyz-coordinates in (x&y in ETRS/UTM32 and z in DHHN16**) based on airborne laserscanning in 1m resolution in a 1m times 1m grid. That would probably help the accuracy of the elevation and geometry a lot since the graph of the diagramm probably is generalised too much.

*Directive 2007/2/EC of the European Parliament and of the Coucil, **German hights reference system
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Season 3: Questionnaire
TFalke55
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Hey everyone!

I created a google form with some questions. I hope, those who are interested are using the form, so I don't plan something noone wants. Smile

https://goo.gl/forms/0nobT64IIi4vYc7s2


EDIT: Please fill in the form until 30th November 2017.
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Season 3: Starting Times
TFalke55
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Hey again,

so I thought about some things for the third installment of NWL. Among others the starting times concerned me, since the times should make it possible for a broad majority of license holders. I know many of them are inactive, but this still ist the best possible guess.

This lead me to the following start time:
UTC-8 (e.g. West-USA, West-Canada) Sat, 12:00
UTC-4 (e.g. Brazil): Sat, 16:00

UTC (e.g. United Kingdom, Portugal): Sat, 20:00
UTC+1 (e.g. Germany, France, Norway): Sat, 21:00
UTC+2 (e.g. Finland, Turkey): Sat, 22:00
UTC+3 (e.g. West-Russia, Saudi-Arabia): Sat, 23:00
UTC+10 (e.g. Japan, Korea, East-Australia): Sun, 06:00
UTC+12 (e.g. New Zealand): Sun, 08:00
TFalke55
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I will stream my perspective from V8 Racing League 2017 season finale in half an hour: http://www.twitch.tv/tfalke55
TFalke55
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By the way one thing I will change if this takes place, looking back at the last season, is the point system. It was quite convoluted.
TFalke55
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Sundays were good because it allows people from overseas to compete as well. So I'd like to stick with it.
Season 3: Interest and ideas?
TFalke55
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Hey there!

Are you interested in a third season of the Nations World League? If so what would be a great addition to the series from your point of view?

I'd target December/January for the start of the series.

I'm looking foreward to your answers!
TFalke55
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Since there is a total of one sign-up, the league is cancelled.
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