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Storm_Cloud
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They got the James Bond bit a smidge wrong; Daniel Craig should have walked in to the Queen sitting, stroking a Corgi. "I've been expecting you, Mr Bond."

Otherwise, mostly well judged. They had to make it British rather than trying to compete with China's generally incredible mass choreography. I'm sure parts would have baffled the world audience, but not bad at all.
Storm_Cloud
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Anti-stall makes sense. I don't think it is possible to hit the wrong pedal unless she has to right foot brake. Stuck throttles don't happen anymore and there are various safety protocols in the ECU. For example it will cut throttle automatically if there is too much braking. Schumacher often gets warned that he is overlapping brake and throttle too much.

Hopefully she is okay.
Storm_Cloud
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Martin Whitmarsh's view. I think Blueflame should send him a letter telling him he's wrong aswell.

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/1 ... d_to_change_approach.html
Storm_Cloud
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Quote from englishlord :

3rd place gets you more points that 4th place, so you should be able to battle for a place without fear of getting punted into the barrier by a sulky pay driver. Regardless of how ****ed your tyres are.


Yes! Of course you should! But this is the real world, so it doesn't work like that.
Storm_Cloud
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The sport is about obtaining more points than anyone else, not about being macho. If you think scoring points is bullshit for sport then I really don't know where you're coming from.

There are times when you must stand your ground and times when you have to accept that a situation only has downsides for you. It's not about letting the bullies win, but Pastor had a podium on his mind and does not care about the championship. He therefore had less to lose than Hamilton, so although he was not at fault that's no good when you're stuck in the tyre wall.

It's a bit being stood at a zebra crossing with a car speeding towards it. You could step out, get run over and then complain from the hospital that it was your right of way, or you engage your brain and get across the road eventually.
Storm_Cloud
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I didn't say "jump out of the way" so, no.
Storm_Cloud
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You have to adjust the way you drive according to those you are driving against. If Alonso or Webber had been trying to pass Hamilton then there probably would not have been a problem. Hamilton knows that Maldonado is a bit of a head case but gave no leeway.

There's literally no point sitting in a steaming car bleating "it was my corner!"
Storm_Cloud
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I think Sato had to go for the lead at that point as he could not afford to lift and if Dario had got onto the back straight ahead then he would have blocked to the flag, so nothing was certain.

I think he tried to take him by surprise and the gamble failed, but you can't fault him for trying.
Storm_Cloud
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Stoner is a terrific rider and at least we've got the rest of this season to appreciate him.
Storm_Cloud
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Spare Repsol seat next year...

Bautista?
Storm_Cloud
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Well done to Maldonado - not a lucky win, although some teams must look at themselves and wonder if they did the best possible job this weekend.

Great for Sir Frank too. The car seems to have basic pace, so like Sauber they are ready to nip at the heels of the big teams when they get the right track and the sweet spot on the tyres.
Storm_Cloud
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Quote from CSF :I don't think it will be. With the tyres as they are, Lewis won't be able to push. I'd be surprised if he was able to get more than a couple of points, especially given its Barcelona.

Wasn't really referring to Hamilton, but with him out of the way the action will be for 1st instead of 2nd. Webber, Schumacher and Kobayashi san will be the ones to watch. Jenson I think is genuinely struggling.
Storm_Cloud
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In terms of the spectacle tomorrow it is a great penalty. It looked like Hamilton would walk away with it, but now we'll be treated to Alonso and Maldonado knocking seven bells out of each other with a lot of fast cars out of position all sitting in the queue.

It is very harsh though. I think maybe 5 or 10 place penalty at most would have been sufficient.
Storm_Cloud
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Quote from Töki (HUN) :Well what do you think? M5 is not exactly the cheap category.

It's all relative really, isn't it?
Storm_Cloud
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Storm_Cloud
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In the 80s the classic strategic choice was to pit or not to pit and it's not really comparable with today's racing, which is getting to the pit window without ruining your tyres.

F1 through history has often been a formula when compromise on speed is required. That could mean not going balls out in order to stay alive, to keep the car reliable, to save fuel or to save tyres.
Storm_Cloud
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Quote from BlueFlame :Well generally going off the track on a straight isn't an advantage. It's #1 a longer distance and #2 most tracks have grass by the side of the track or tarmac thats very dirty.

Generally, but not in this case. I guess they were more concerned with Rosberg and figured they couldn't both break the rules at the same time.
Storm_Cloud
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Quote from heson :From what I saw (have not found a good replay) Hamiltons only alternative was to crash into Rosberg. The line Rosberg took to defend was OK, but considering the speed Hamilton had it was very dangeorus.

The Alonso incident was way slower.

Give the place back. Charlie usually tells them if that is required and rightly or wrongly it was not deemed necessary.
Storm_Cloud
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Which is true Chris, but the rules don't distinguish between corners and straights - although stewards seem to!
Storm_Cloud
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The Hamilton / Rosberg judgment passes no comment on Hamilton passing whilst outside track limits. It would appear that perhaps they did not even consider that part of the event for a rule breach, although:

Rule 20.2 Drivers must use the track at all times. For the avoidance of doubt the white lines defining the track edges are considered to be part of the track but the kerbs are not.
A driver will be judged to have left the track if no part of the car remains in contact with the track.
Should a car leave the track the driver may rejoin, however, this may only be done when it is safe to do so and without gaining any advantage.
A driver may not deliberately leave the track without justifiable reason.

Hamilton completely left the track. He rejoined gaining an advantage by completing his overtake. Did he have a justifiable reason to leave the track? That's debateable, but he did gain an advantage so still broke 20.2.

In many ways this is precisely the same as Alonso / Kubica in 2010. Alonso had no choice but to leave the track and gained an advantage by doing so therefore he was punished.

Perhaps the only difference is that Alonso completed the pass off the track, but then again Hamilton was punished in Spa a couple of years ago for missing the chicane but only applying the advantage of leaving the track by completing a pass at the next corner.

Storm_Cloud
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Strictly speaking, the track is within the white lines and Lewis gained an advantage by driving beyond the white lines. It wasn't a short cut, but he used it to overtake.

Kudos for keeping his foot in it though.
Storm_Cloud
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She is a bit of an oompah loompah - she'd need to stand on a box to give you a blow job.
Storm_Cloud
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Quote from morpha :

My point was: Unlike physical attacks, verbal ones (at least written ones, oral ones depend upon method of communication) can be ignored. You're certainly not going to turn a racist by banning him from an LFS host.

I don't think the point is to rehabilitate him. The vast majority of people find it offensive, or at least uncomfortable, and if you put LFS into the context that it is not 15 or 18 rated then consider if that action is acceptable for say a daytime TV show, or shouting in the street. It's not acceptable, so he wants him to be removed from the environment. Nothing wrong with that.
Storm_Cloud
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So I should slow down for you. Got it.
Storm_Cloud
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Quote from MonkeyHead :I see much same in your and younger Michael Schumacher's ways to defend position. If you view this from my car you can see how crazy line you left for me in inside line. In my opinion you deserved your DNF there.

So what did you want me to do? Vanish? Give up the corner although I was ahead and it was you who put us into an inevitable crash situation by choosing to overtake on the complete opposite side of the track to the racing line into a flat chicane. I took my position on the track before you moved - I didn't squeeze you; you put yourself there.

In my opinion, just because you are able to gain a degree of overlap does not mean that you necessarily should. You've kind of implicated yourself in your reply - I left you a crazy line. It was your decision to take it therefore your fault we crashed. And you moved into me once partially alongside. I drove straight.
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