Quote from MiguelMargarido :

Obviously, if you have worked in game development too, you know there are deadlines. And if you don't respect those deadlines, you're off for a big problem with marketing heads and the lot.

post some milestones/deadlines for S3, abide by them, and I guarantee that if you do that, you may ask anything from 15 to 30 Euros for S3. I have been talking to a few LFS "loyalists" and we agree on this: S3 could cost us that much and we'll still purchase S3.

Take your time, research, implement, and surprise us. If you do so, in my view you'll be entitled to ask that fair amount for S3. We'll all stand to gain from this - your team and us.

As a developer/programer you must understand the phrase "crunch-time" when the powers that be (marketing heads etc) come down hard on the people actually doing the work to speed up development in time for a set release date, I know big companys like to set these dates and employed programmers have to put in hard days with longer and longer hours to rush things out, how many big games get released early?

This is IMO a big part of why the 3 Devs here started LFS, to use their talents as programmers/designers at home and at their own pace, without anyone berating them all the time for updates or release dates, they get to work when they feel like it, and knock off when they want, call it flexitime if you like. But they do it because they enjoy it or at least believe in the dream.
I happen to agree and support this lifestyle and my own small bussiness will never be in the FTSE100 but it allows me to spend more time with my family and IMO live a happier and more fulfilled life as a result.

I will gladly pay for any updates to lfs when they become available and even though I don't know Scawen & co personally I believe the result of their hard work over the last 8 or 9 years and more importantly the quality compared to the competition bring me to conclude that Scawen knows what he's doing and always delivers "top notch" output.

We all want the same thing, even the devs want to give us what we want
I totally understand people asking for updates and content, and feel their frustration, but I don't think chastising the devs about development speed or complaining that "eric is doing nothing" or any of the negative comments on here will help anybody.

LFS is like a hand made car like maybe a Morgan, you can phone them up and demand a new +8 but you wont get it until they make it and finish the other orders, "its done when its done".

Thanks for the info Scawen, don't change for anyone

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Quote from S14 DRIFT :

Hydrogen is, as I'm sure you're aware, the most abundant substance on earth. .

Maybe in the universe....
Essentially everything is made in and from stars (H + He) However the most abundant substance on/in the Earth is Iron, and the most abundant gas is Nitrogen.
The H Fuel cell is a good invention but I think its pretty limited in a portable capacity.
As for the generation of mass power nuclear power stations are looking like the best option until either solar can be more efficent or the work going on with Helium-3 and 7 or other "future" fusion based solutions become a reality.

Quote from Cornys :

I think that there are only 3 things capable of ending this world at the time being:

1. Nuclear Warfare that goes uncontroled
2. Disese
3. Asteroid/Astronomical Event (This is least likely yet, and science may find a way to prevent some of these from effecting us shortly)

I agree with 1 and 2 IIRC any nuclear blasts causes ozone to be depleted massively with an output of something like 4 or 5,000 tons of Nitric oxide produced for every megaton of explosive power, thats why all the testing was moved underground.
As for the Asteroid or comet impact being least likely, I don't think its as unlikley as most people think, with some things wizzing around the sun at crazy fast speeds and new solar system objects descovered all the time its bound to happen at some point, maybe even in our lifetime.

Isn't our planet supposed to be overdue a huge volcanic event?

When you stop to think about how insignificant we are in the global machine its understandable how alot of people just don't seem to care about saving energy, living greener, eating healthy or even not littering (man that winds me up seeing people throwing Mcdonalds bags out of their cars ) global warming natural or man made I'm sure our oil rich, gas guzzling, junk food eating, TV watching, lfs playing lifestyle is acting as a catalist.

As for the music scene the charts have been full of rubbish for years But then I am officially an oldie isint it all cyclic anyway

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This has to be the best image of the eclipse for me, when you think of the forward planning involved.

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Oh dear Rich that is indeed the biggest of faux pas

Astronomy = scientific observing and working with facts in the cosmos.

Astrology = a large, steaming pile of excrement concocted for and by fools.


I have to agree that the stargazing live shows were great to see and hopefully the BBC will run another event later in the year. Maybe with some luck the weather will be better.

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I hope someone saw something
Wall to wall cloud here with rain too I saw ....... nothing

never mind

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The Cruel Sea Three legged dog
Track 4 "too fast for me"
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its still cloudy here in Kent, but set to clear after midnight and stay clear for the morning, if your out camping and up after midnight you might see some meteors as theres a shower on with a radiant near Bootes, with no moon tonight and up to 100 per hour look to the north, your bound to see some

Good luck

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Quote from RocketRace :

Regarding the race site I’ve been looking in to iRacing but I haven’t bought a membership yet. Where do you race?

I've also looked into getting a trial subscription of Iracing but different deals come and go

I don't find myself with too much free time for online racing but when I do I like to race LFS.
Its the quick pick up racing I like, fire up lfs and within 30 secs you can be in a server and ontrack.

I am considering getting back into regular league racing with LFS also as the public servers are quieter than they use to be, probably due to so many lfs'ers moving to Iracing

Please post your thoughts on the G27 when you get it and let us know if you have any problems setting it all up, if its as good as the 25 has been for me it should give you years of reliable service.

Good luck.

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Just a heads up to everyone or at least everyone in the UK
There will be a partial solar eclipse tomorrow morning as the sun rises, even if its foggy there is still a chance to see a crescent sun, sunrise is about 8am and the moon will leave the disc of the sun at around 9am.
Those in the south and east of the UK should get a better view
As always be very very careful when observing or photographing the sun.
Here's a preview from "stellarium"

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Quote from JasonJ :

You can get bulk savings 10% 20% and 25% off deals. For example only $412.50 if you buy all content at once.

OMG! only $412.50 how long is that for 1 year or 5? and how much is the subcription per year after that the same as if you have basic content?

Its interesting to find out exactly how much iracing costs for full content, I wonder do they add content every month?

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Quote from CrAZySkyPimp :

This guy clearly works for this company and really doesn't care about anything then having their products advertised. I'm not saying I'm against it or it's a bad thing, just sayin'

You might be right

If that is the case you know RR might do beter over at the Iracing forums
I mean it seems to me they would be more likely to have "disposable income" to spend on things like that.

On the other hand some might be so hard up after spending all their xmas money on new cars and tracks who knows

@RocketRace any thoughts?

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Quote from sysoosi :

Hi!

I bought an S2 license about three months ago (if I recall correctly), but haven't really had the time to play LFS since. So I thought I should finally have my first post on here and this thread is a logical choice .

I've been into rFactor and other sims before, but not that much into online racing. For my money LFS has got the best feeling physics engine and also the most promising one (although I do realize the ongoing update halt...).

So since I'm new to online racing, I'd like to say that I prefer doing things right these days. Winning is winning, but playing fair and correctly is more rewarding .

Welcome to the forums
Great attitude

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Quote from RocketRace :

I´m more in to the F1 cars so maybe that´s why I prefer the low sitting position? But anyhow, I think it gives you a better feeling with the cockpit and with three screens that gives you the whole feeling you know like, where ever I look I’m only seeing the race track, cars and race, race, race, race.. With the play seat I´m just in front of my computer and playing a game and I don´t want this to be game. It´s virtual racing for god's sake? But I have booked a test of the P1 so after that I will have some real answer for you guys, I think I maybe should test a play seat as well so I can compare them to each other?

If its really the feeling of racing a real car you want? I would suggest you book a test in one of the motion simulators like the force dynamics 301 or 401, these motion simulators are the only real way of feeling some of the G-forces that you will get IRL.
I don't know about you but I would rather have one of these than something static and whilst the VRS-01 (or any other cockpit) might look OK it gives you zero feedback

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ld6xT5yfbhw

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according to the source material Kane linked to "he had sex with Miss W while she was asleep"

I wonder are all Sweedish women such heavy sleepers?

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Quote from MTnRunnr :

I have had problems lately, after using LFS for a year, the video is choppy. Sometimes it is very subtle, but affects playability, other times it freezes, especially with cars in front, comes and goes. Would a fresh load help? Could it be just my computer, had no problems for first year. Put new memory cards in it and that helped, but still cannot drive multiplayer without it freezing up.

You have not mentioned what type of computer you are using.
laptop? desktop? full specs might help
Wireless or wired internet? dial up or cable?
Installed any new HW or SW ?
does this happen in singleplayer offline mode as well as online multiplayer mode?
do you have alot of things running in the background/taskbar?
if you press Ctrl+Alt+Delete taskmanager will start, click the processes tab and see how many you have?

Good luck

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Quote from RocketRace :

What kind of equipment does every one use out there? Are they racing with just a steering wheel mounted to the desk? Sounds so boring?

A cockpit type setup is fine but would be one of the last things for a beginner to consider purchasing, I think a wheel bolted to a desk is the most popular amoungst this community.

To be honest its not so much about what you sit in but more about the feedback you can get from your equipment to make you feel more imersed in the sim or enhance the realism.

Some basic things that for any sim I believe help to do that are, in order of importance..
Good force feedback wheel. [I use logitech G25]
Good PC and monitor capable of hi res, high FPS display (triple head could be a bonus, but too expensive and too large for me) [I use WC PC and 24" dell @1920X1200]
Good headphones, its amazing how much feedback you get from the ears
Comfortable seating position, depending on the size and FOV of your display/s you need to be the right distance from your display and obviously the wheel and pedals need to feel right. a cockpit or sim seat type setup at least keeps the wheel, pedals and display/s always at the same distance from each other.

RocketRace, what sims do you play and what wheels have you tried so far?

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Hi RocketRace, welcome to the forums

I would reccomend getting a good Force Feedback wheel to start with as even with a chair and a desk you can get quite immersed when racing

I have been racing sims for years and use a "sim seat" very similar to this

Of course if money was no object and you had room then you could splash out on something like this to give you the feeling you desire

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Thanks Scawen/Devs for the "report" very interesting reading.

IMO LFS is already one of the best sims out there, I have played many others with the exception of Iracing and have found LFS to be the easyest to install and use, and the best physics/FF feel of the lot.
I know many long time LFS racers that have moved to Iracing for the content and constant development and I think thats fine, but I agree that 90% of them will upgrade thier LFS account to S3 or whatever when it is released.
I havn't tried Iracing because even though someone has pointed out that for £24 you can theroetically get more than 1 car and 1 track in Iracing, once you have paid for even the basic content, if you wish to keep playing it, then the cost becomes much more as each month/year passes so I won't try to comapre LFS and Iracing on cost, as for me its the subcription based or "pay to play" payment system that I strongly dislike.

I don't agree with people who say that the Devs owe us or promised us updates, I feel sure that Scawen himself wants to release the next patch as soon as he can, but as its not ready he can't, not that hard to grasp really.
Some things take time, sometimes longer than expected, and only time will tell if it will be worth the wait.

all this has been posted here countless times already over the last few years.
Its ready when.... yes you guessed it "when its ready"

To Nick and other demo players who want promises or updates it really is worth thinking about S2 as all the cars differ and the tracks are varied there is even an oval with some servers dedicated to just oval racing, a single payment and its yours to use for life
I would reccomend LFS to anyone, I wouldn't reccomend visiting this forum as spam and childish crap has become almost ubiquitous and thats the real shame.

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Hi Liam sounds like it will be a great event

I would help out driving a safety car but all my FXOs are FWD.

I hope you get alot of intrest in your event.

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I wonder what % of players are using this older build?
and if that % shows up on the "number of players online" stats?

The only time I've played an older than the most up to date patch is when the public testing is open, and during most of that time its the latest patch thats the most interesting.

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unfunny here also, it might be the fact that the drawing is just so poor and once you have seen one you've seen them all.

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Welcome to the forums, its not all about being fast race-craft and commitment count for alot in the more "experianced" teams

Good luck with your team hunt

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Quote from pasibrzuch :

since eletricity goes very very fast inside our PCs the time goes veryy sloooow (relation of speed of light and elapsed time)

nice similie however I prefere blonds

I can assure you the "electricity" inside PCs go no faster or slower than anywhere else in the universe actual electrons are another matter being that one can exist in 2 places at the same time and not exist at all

This thread has gone so far off topic and has been hanging around sooo long....

.. Maybe Santa will bring some public test patch, who knows

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Welcome to the forums Griphos

Great you figured out what the problem was.

South city is great with some huge bumps in places it has some amazing configs some can be really challanging in the reverse direction too.

With S2 amongst other things you also get Aston, one of my all time favorite tracks in AS2 (Aston club) so one to try if/when you upgrade to s2

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Although its nice to be able to access higher res images, there should be a rule like on other forums (most I use allow 800 or 1024pix max on longest edge with a file size under 300 or 500k)

And I'm with Garph on quoting image posts, its very easy to take out the pics when quoting and with large images like those above (slow to load for some) silly quote posts with just a smiley will get a spam report from me also

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