Cake or biscuit?
Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are subject to VAT, currently 15%. McVities classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise and the case ended up before the courts.[9] This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit, and particularly because they are commonly eaten alongside, or instead of, traditional biscuits. A question that the court asked itself was "what criteria should be used to class something as a cake?"
McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes. In doing so it produced a 12" Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes.[10]
McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, among other things, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Mr Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Contrary to a commonly held belief, whether something is considered a 'luxury item' is not a test for VAT purposes.
Mr Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes.[11]
Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are subject to VAT, currently 15%. McVities classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise and the case ended up before the courts.[9] This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit, and particularly because they are commonly eaten alongside, or instead of, traditional biscuits. A question that the court asked itself was "what criteria should be used to class something as a cake?"
McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes. In doing so it produced a 12" Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes.[10]
McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, among other things, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Mr Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Contrary to a commonly held belief, whether something is considered a 'luxury item' is not a test for VAT purposes.
Mr Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes.[11]
thanks, i'm still debating which one though (6000 or 8000). do you think the 6000 looks ok? (i don't have the nerve to ask for the 8000 tbh)
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i know it's not the same standard, but does anyone have anything to say about the Olympus Tough 6000/8000? i'm thinking about one of them for my birthday. thanks 
drinkable size i guess!sounds ok to me, although a bit too high pitched in the replay, let us know how it turns out 
i can't wait!oh shit **** wank! i just realised i'll be on holiday! grrrrrrrrrrrrrr *programs BT Vision box*
edit: lol at the fact it only stars out one swear word
i'm not saying he is at all, in fact he seems quite a nice guy, it's just that twice someone said "i think you mean FBM" and he kept calling it the F1 car. i'm not accusing its just funny
i've thought about it too but already do rowing 6 times a week. my uncle did some form of kung fu (i'll ask him at some point), which he loved. he's like the least aggressive person i know, but he's 6ft and apparently once he was walking past a night club and some bouncer tried to start a fight with him, and my uncle just kept knocking him down. he's shown me a few moves which would be pretty painful too, that sounds like a good bet to me.
also, didn't bruce lee invent his own style? see if you can do that.
also, didn't bruce lee invent his own style? see if you can do that.
there are more molecules in a glass of water than grains of sand in the entire world.
may have already been done but don't have enough time to check through.
may have already been done but don't have enough time to check through.
yeah, after i bought the same STOCK car about 10 times and it kept saying "car must be stock to enter this race", i decided to give up.
i think when you go to replay there's a countdown timer in the top right of the screen, does that tell you how much recording time you have left?
in what way is it noobish (apart from not using capitals - see the "lets be snooty and abuse people who are different to us" thread)?
happy bday, enjoy doing whatever it is you people do over there
as i recall, all cars seemed to understeer spectacularly, i couldn't get the cornering right at all!
not mid race as far as i know, i've thought the same thing before.
it'll be different next season, right now Brawn are just using the car Honda spent 1 and a half years developing, they'll need to develop their own next season
geezer or whatever your name is, you were late to this thread, so why are you reading through everything and trying to restart the argument, it seems a little pointless to me.
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