Not even sure how to look this one up properly.

I'm wanting a way to scrub AIs that have caused a major incident and or then come to a stop in a way that ruins an otherwise good race.

With AIs being such erratic drivers there is no way we should have to lose a whole race to their nonsense.

Try as I might, I can't think of the right thing to look for!

Anyone else looked and found. or just happen to know about this aspect.

Looking to have a solution in single player mode and on a server too.

Say there were 5 players on a server and each one brought an AI with them, then I'd like to boot the AI off that causes chaos (and scrub it's car from the track) but not boot the driver it came in with.

Quote from Bob Smith :

I don't see how general software discussion relates to LFS.

You can't expect to hit a coconut every time Bob!

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If we had a section for it and were allowed to discuss things like this, we could find out for sure, I've not been at it long enough yet to be certain enough to make a post of great value, but I have had some suspicions - some bad interaction while making things and doing skins, but of course we are discouraged from sharing details like that.
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Last edited by MudPuppy, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 19:50. Reason : Addressing Bob's edit above

I used to run a Ford Escort RS2000, it was a MK2 with the slab front and twin lamps, boy would I love to drive that one more time in LFS, or nearly any other sim come to that. Maddening as hell because I can make stuff in 3d too. What a waste. I won't live for ever, if only some one was bright enough to exploit what I have spent most of a lifetime learning to do somewhat adequately, before I am no longer able or here come to that. Fat chance of that happening though.

Last edited by MudPuppy, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 19:41. Reason : having another senior moment

Quote from mclarenmatt :

I think its a good idea imho.

Talking about software such as Windows, Anti Virus etc isn't going to harm LFS in any way

It's not unknown for one bit of software to affect another either, so it's good to be able to say so if you find one that works nicely or, more importantly perhaps, which is to the detriment of LFS smooth operation.

Might have merit in that context and in my view.

I am in favour of anything that brings more tweakable features to AIs. I hate racing against them as they are screwy and frequently malevolent, but they could become very useful for testing set-ups.

If you read up and learn anything at all about making set-ups, it soon becomes obvious that consistently testing the same drive is very useful indeed. I don't know about them being good drivers but they are way more consistent that any human.

You can set up a race of one lap or more with just 1 AI; It can't get very much more handy than that. Set-ups can already take up way too much time to do. If you make a number of set ups to test with say 5 or so AIs you can run a series of tests on multiple set-ups at one sitting. If they were easier to check for which bits of the set-up worked or "took" then they would be even more useful in this role.

Are there any bright sparks out there could program a decent extra UI/front end for setting up bulk testing like this? Would be a highly original project I would have thought.

So anything that might make AIs more useful in general, I'm in favour of.

So that has to be +101 to balance things up a little

Last edited by MudPuppy, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 19:26. Reason : senior moment

Quote from Scawen :

ABS brakes have been added to 5 cars (as a setup option) so for now you cannot upload hotlaps made in Z18.

I've never tried a test patch so far, but this feature has me intrigued.

Can you (or anyone else) say which 5 cars please? Not much point grabbing it and setting it up only to find out I can't explore it.

Last edited by MudPuppy, Mon 12 Oct 2009, 19:01. Reason : markup mess

Was a great race if you stayed with it. Some awesome moments sprinkled throughout.

Thought the commentators did a great job under challenging circumstances.

Some major tech issues which won't have been avoidable, the net was pretty busy here and there today.

Thanks all for the hard work that must have gone into it. Made quite a dent in my monthly download bandwidth cap.

Hi Mud Puppy here, don't know how I missed this post but better late than never!

I like dirt racing, so more dirt is good!

Rally Cross; because you really should not need a road to have fun!

Quote from Wilko868 :

Makem please

Well I would if I could understand 'im!

Hmm... Wilkinson, that rings a bell, didn't I last see you upside down on the last lap somewhere?

Just a suggestion, probably not for this time, but certainly for another time:

How about streaming the commentary audio as an audio only stream, then one could watch the tracker and remote and still hear what's going on and the excellent commentary to that. That would cover the times when the play can't be had due to "not enough slots" and other tech issues with the vision side of things.

That would not be too bad a compromise.

As things stand you got one point of failure and if it does fail, then you lose it all. I reckon splitting them off makes some sense. Losing one part is one thing, losing both would then be far less likely!

It's working fairly good in places now, we just need some sub titles for the self confessed blonde Geordie commentator!

Last edited by MudPuppy, Sat 10 Oct 2009, 13:17. Reason : typo

Quote from amp88 :

The reason it won't load is because Kyoto Ring is S2 content and you only have an S1 license.

Ah, oh well, pardon me for breathing!

I'd probably buy S2 if it had some RallyCross content. But it don't!

Now you're getting somewhere!

And yes, it is "testing" too isn't it!

Quote from Mp3 Astra :

Usually we do make the whole video available a little after the race finishes. But it's usually an enourmous file.

Yeah, I can imagine, that 6mb-ish one I just grabbed won't load anyway.

Oh well. I guess I should be doing other things really, but it sort of grabbed my imagination that it was was on right now, so why not treat myself to watching for a while!

Oh well, good luck all concerned.

Thanks, you going to have the whole thing available (maybe in sections) later or something?

Bear in mind I have absolutely no idea idea if what I just asked is even plausible never mind likely!

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Oh rats, says it can't load it!

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Last edited by MudPuppy, Sat 10 Oct 2009, 12:34. Reason : UPDATE

Seems the race is not on - just a mouse moving about on a screen showing a bunch of racer names and the start lights set to green, but nothing moving anywhere on the tarmac that I could see. I was on stream III.

Just watched the output at Icontv, it was a season final of some kind. I have to say I'm really looking forward to seeing more of this sort of thing.

Great job done by all, and special thanks to the commentators who so clearly had their work cut out for them in the closing laps.

When does the next season's coverage start?

I'm sorry all, but common sense insists I speak up.

There is a rear view option in LFS, and I feel compelled to direct both sides of this argument to that fact, and suggest they review what has been said in this thread with that thought in mind.

The whole topic takes on a whole different and perhaps more relevant shape when seen in that light.

A RallyCross option within each major track complex would restore some much needed, but presently absent, balance.

+1

That would appear to be a very sensible suggestion. Can't imagine any reason not to have it.

Last edited by MudPuppy, Mon 5 Oct 2009, 08:13. Reason : typo

The way I have been driving this weekend, I reckon a combine harvester could make some sense!!

Last edited by MudPuppy, Sun 4 Oct 2009, 23:03. Reason : poor typist

Thanks for the info, the heat issues would be a bit of a show stopper for me, I like very quiet machines so more fans would really mess it all up. Problem is, It's not that bad as it is, so this is going to be a bit trickier to decide what to do than it usually is. Oh well!

Wonder if I should maybe just max out in 9x series and call it a day for this system. I sure won't be buying another system any time soon. I tend to run somewhat behind the tech curve anyway, so it's not a big deal I guess.

Glad you gave me a heads up on that heat thing, thanks again! Is it the overclocked ones that have it, or is it all of them you you think? I am now wondering if a 260 might be a fair bet for a compromise maybe without heat.

I am also starting to suspect that a bigger WS monitor might get me better bang for the buck at this time though.

I'm not really in any sort of rush either.

Quote from mumu :

I think my computer is fast enough to render LFS smoothly in every situation (Intel Q6600 @3.2GHz, 4GB RAM, DFI LanParty with x48 chipset, Leadtek 280GTX) but thanks for the advice.

Well, yes, I was replying to the other guy's question on that bit.

As it happens you and I have fairly similar specs on our systems. I can't figure out a good video card yet though. I don't overclock my Q6600 (not sure I really need to frankly!) But I got the feeling a bit more oomph in the video card department might be a smart move.

I nearly always go for Leadtek as they are good value and dependable, however I got a cheapy Asus 8600GT when I built this one nearly a year ago, to save a few pennies for later (like now really!), as there was nothing very inspiring available or in stock then. I did not have any PCI cards at that time, so it just filled in the hardware gap I had.

How are you finding that Leadtek? I don't quite feel that I sufficiently understand the nvidia numbers newer than 9x to make a purchase decision yet.

Last edited by MudPuppy, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 23:01. Reason : can't type for toffee

Thanks both for such a quick reply, it is now non issue.

You have both made a huge difference with this speedy and great help!

I changed the map colour to a fairly neutral grey colour and that made it all suddenly work rather well, while treading with the lightest possible foot print.

Thank you both so much for that.

So many times the lack of a distinguishing functional colour theme in the interface means you just don't notice something which can actually be changed. This is probably how I managed to miss that thumping great big button to start with.

Actually being able to customise the interface might be a good idea to improve the overall user experience greatly. Not the driving interface but the set up interface. I could then, for example, highlight (consistently) buttons that lead to an actual option, ditto ones which only convey information or raw data, but do so consistently colour wise.

Hi all,

My eyesight is not as great as it used to be, I frequently struggle to see the arrows on the moving map clearly enough for them to be as useful as I would like.

It there any way to customise the colours of them, it's mostly the poor colour contrast that causes the problem, so if I could adjust it I could get something that my eyes can work with.

As it stands the problem causes me to need to spend way too long looking at that map to get any real value out of it, and therefore increases the chances of becoming distracted and something horrible precipitating out of that. Makes me a hazard to other drivers really. Not of my making though. Does not appear to be sensible.

Not sure what the best way to search for this might be, as they may not commonly be called arrows, but in that case I've no idea what they are called, for all that.

Last edited by MudPuppy, Fri 2 Oct 2009, 23:10. Reason : changed brackets around solved - looked too much like the_stigg with curved ones, not so good.