MoE in Serious Jeopardy
This thread is somewhat hard to post, but yet it needs to be done.
MoE currently is in serious jeopardy of being able to pull off the rest of the season. We do not have a problem with doing pre- and inbetween race organizing, but we are seriously short on manpower during raceweeks (qualifying sessions, race). As it is right now, we have lost two of the admins we pulled onboard before the season and are therefore down to 1 person who could technically administer a race (me). Another person is in a totally different timezone and has some strange connection problem that doesn't allow him to go online with LFS (Tweak) and a third one is MiA.
Personally, I do not have the time to do every race (actually, I don't have the time currently to do any race), so as it looks right now, we have no one to administer the races. That, obviously, makes it very hard to impossible to run decently organized races.
So, unless we find people willing to help during race days by being there in IRC for questions, running the SC, giving the start signal and working on appeals and protests, MoE can't be run anymore. It would be a very sad and disappointing end to the season (and to MoE), but real life reasons and other stuff sometimes do not allow for different measures.
Therefore: we need to find folks helping with above mentioned matters. In my mind, the best option were if the participating teams were willing to nominate one person of their team to share the workload for the upcoming races. That way, workload would be reduced and shared between those entities that actually profit from the work being done.
However, if folks can be found that are willing to come onboard full time, that would be most appreciated as well.
For any further questions and everything else, pls use this thread or 'admins _at_ mastersofendurance.eu.
MoE currently is in serious jeopardy of being able to pull off the rest of the season. We do not have a problem with doing pre- and inbetween race organizing, but we are seriously short on manpower during raceweeks (qualifying sessions, race). As it is right now, we have lost two of the admins we pulled onboard before the season and are therefore down to 1 person who could technically administer a race (me). Another person is in a totally different timezone and has some strange connection problem that doesn't allow him to go online with LFS (Tweak) and a third one is MiA.
Personally, I do not have the time to do every race (actually, I don't have the time currently to do any race), so as it looks right now, we have no one to administer the races. That, obviously, makes it very hard to impossible to run decently organized races.
So, unless we find people willing to help during race days by being there in IRC for questions, running the SC, giving the start signal and working on appeals and protests, MoE can't be run anymore. It would be a very sad and disappointing end to the season (and to MoE), but real life reasons and other stuff sometimes do not allow for different measures.
Therefore: we need to find folks helping with above mentioned matters. In my mind, the best option were if the participating teams were willing to nominate one person of their team to share the workload for the upcoming races. That way, workload would be reduced and shared between those entities that actually profit from the work being done.
However, if folks can be found that are willing to come onboard full time, that would be most appreciated as well.
For any further questions and everything else, pls use this thread or 'admins _at_ mastersofendurance.eu.
Slicks could improve mechanical grip and therefore _lessen_ aero reliance.
Overall, the whole slick argument is kinda weak, though, grip has never been higher than during tire wear times. A slick tire coming from Bridgestone would for sure not generate more grip, but about the same by choosing a different compound. Otherwise the FIA would cry "safety, safety" again.
The only argument pro slicks is looks.
I've got a 2h and a 4h replay (roughly). Unfortunately, I had a disco in between. I will upload them, if needed.
For people to enjoy. Most of them do, either because or despite of me. I enjoy doing it, even though I work 6 days a week atm and have to take time off to run days like yesterday. So I do take the liberty to ignore stuff which was discussed a year ago.
I'll leave it at that. Feel free to write more stuff, don't expect me to read or comment it. The last paragraph I will take into consideration, btw, so just that you don't think I ignore everything you say.
Take another look from above. He stayed right at the curb and you crossed the most innert divider line, coming from the outside and you had lots of room on the outside. There is nothing there that would justify a penalty.
If you'd be any more pleasant, I wouldn't have it, quite simple.
Without going into judging the event, how did I not tell the truth by stating that there was a startcrash which Mercury got penalized for?
1. There was a startcrash, right or wrong? Right.
2. Mercury got a penalty, right or wrong? Right.
Anything else, I won't go over again, it has been discussed before to dead's end and it will not move us forward. We have reacted accordingly by introducing n00b start to minimize mistakes, a tool we unfortunately cannot use atm because it doesn't work and the coder doesnt have the time to adapt it to the new patches. Otherwise it would be in use this season as well.
And to say there was no rule in qualifying: even if you took the standpoint there was no rule before qualifying, then it was instated at the very moment I posted it on the server. Quite simple. Folks didn't act accordingly, they get punished. Don't use block messages, we NEED to be able to communicate to the drivers from admin side. That has always been the case, we have told for instance drivers to pull into the pits by using the communications before. We do not have radio functions to every team/driver, so we simply need drivers not to block messages, as this case quite clearly showed.
And now can we end this? It's spoiling the excitement the drivers showed last night in the IRC channel and I actually like to end a race on a good note and not going over year old stuff over and over again.
Without going into judging the event, how did I not tell the truth by stating that there was a startcrash which Mercury got penalized for?
1. There was a startcrash, right or wrong? Right.
2. Mercury got a penalty, right or wrong? Right.
Anything else, I won't go over again, it has been discussed before to dead's end and it will not move us forward. We have reacted accordingly by introducing n00b start to minimize mistakes, a tool we unfortunately cannot use atm because it doesn't work and the coder doesnt have the time to adapt it to the new patches. Otherwise it would be in use this season as well.
And to say there was no rule in qualifying: even if you took the standpoint there was no rule before qualifying, then it was instated at the very moment I posted it on the server. Quite simple. Folks didn't act accordingly, they get punished. Don't use block messages, we NEED to be able to communicate to the drivers from admin side. That has always been the case, we have told for instance drivers to pull into the pits by using the communications before. We do not have radio functions to every team/driver, so we simply need drivers not to block messages, as this case quite clearly showed.
And now can we end this? It's spoiling the excitement the drivers showed last night in the IRC channel and I actually like to end a race on a good note and not going over year old stuff over and over again.
I'd advise you to pit instantly the next time. HAD you caused an accident, we would have judged it as gross negligence and deducted somewhere between 1 and 5 laps from your total, additionally to the drivethrough/stop&go.
Running around with a flat tire on a track like SO4 any longer than absolutely necessary is insane.
Running around with a flat tire on a track like SO4 any longer than absolutely necessary is insane.
Paul, please refrain from calling me a liar. I can take quite a bit of criticism, but I do have my limits as well.
SparkyDave: the "Westhill Incident" was a startcrash which Mercury got penalized for, a penalty Paul did not agree with.
SparkyDave: the "Westhill Incident" was a startcrash which Mercury got penalized for, a penalty Paul did not agree with.
A (hopefully) final update to the first post.
Actually you were fair play and stayed on your line and #14 came too close to you. What I did not understand is why you drove 5 laps (149-154) with a flat tire?
As that happened in the last hour or close to last hour of the race, this part of the rule will be in place:
Video was substantial evidence, see ruling in protest.
I cannot hand out a drivethrough or stop and go after the race. And time penalties are by the rules only possible for incidents in the last hour of the race.
Without a replay, this is unsubstantial evidence. Sorry, the pics tell nothing in such a situation, especially when there are three, not two cars involed.
Okay, we can put a new wording there and say "put him into the wall", if that makes you happier?
No, laptop is too slow to do so, besides that, I don't have the equipment.
It was accelerating out of a corner, your car tapped their left rear and off they went.
It was accelerating out of a corner, your car tapped their left rear and off they went.
32 was called to pits by administrators, penalties given to #24 and #14 upon the protests.
6h of South City Long: Protests
Pls put any protests you have here. We need lap (lap of your car), cars involved and a replay.
We have had a no chatting rule since we have had MoE. Granted, it's been in the rules only as "no chatting during the race", but we have always said it before the qualifying sessions that chatting is not allowed. It started again that folks were chatting this session and I warned them once, folks were chatting on so it was clear that they needed an incentive to stop chatting.
It does not matter whether it is an accidental bind being hit. Simply unbind all keys for messages and it won't happen. In the race, this will give you a drive through as well, even though it's accidental. One reason besides the obvious disturbance that chatting is not allowed is so that folks do not need to block messages. The race control needs to be able to give directions and the only way to do that is via chat. If you block messages and miss directions (such as the announced penalty in this quali session), you have to take the blame yourself.
I have screenshots of all chats after my warning, plus the replay. If anyone doubts the chats, they are free to contact me for the screenshots or download the replay above. Quite a few of them came after time expired but before the last car on a flying lap crossed the line, which was car #30.
It does not matter whether it is an accidental bind being hit. Simply unbind all keys for messages and it won't happen. In the race, this will give you a drive through as well, even though it's accidental. One reason besides the obvious disturbance that chatting is not allowed is so that folks do not need to block messages. The race control needs to be able to give directions and the only way to do that is via chat. If you block messages and miss directions (such as the announced penalty in this quali session), you have to take the blame yourself.
I have screenshots of all chats after my warning, plus the replay. If anyone doubts the chats, they are free to contact me for the screenshots or download the replay above. Quite a few of them came after time expired but before the last car on a flying lap crossed the line, which was car #30.
I thought we did as well, but I haven't heard of game-TV even after I contacted them...
6h of South City Long: Starting Grid
See attachement.
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