Quote from nexttime :

What surprised me was he was worried about some 30mb being moved on an harddisk.

That seems oddly specifique. I searched for "30 MB" to see what it was about and found this:

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This is about people hacking their .eng file, to contain far larger wavs than the limit that LFS allows, and that wav file being music rather than an actual engine sound. Then going online and selecting that hacked mod, forcing others to download that 30 MB mod and busting their eardrums with extremely loud music.

So it was not about hardware requirements at all.
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To me it is always interesting to read about game development. LFS or other games. Sometimes I would do things different, but I mostly do silly 2D games so what do I know. Also if everyone did everything the same way it would be boring and there would be no need to write or read such reports.

Quote from Flame CZE :

PS: Not sure what "Proudový Kouzelník" was supposed to mean but it doesn't make much sense when translated directly, because it means "Jet Magician"

I used google-translate to generate the most realistic czech driver names.

Anyway, I seem finished for now. Skins are basically as in the picture except for minor differences but I can make more changes if wanted.
svg-file is included.

woah, I never knew you could change settings in the openwheel cars just with arrows, without first pressing F11.
Maybe it was done that way because of the GTR cars only XRR has a display in the cockpit?
Cars without display would need an onscreen-menu (like F11), maybe it could open automatically if one the arrows is pressed and disappear after two seconds with no input?

It is possible to make scripts like https://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Script_Guide#Brake_balance_adjustment_.28increase.2Fdecrease.29 but they do not work for all cars: The adjustment-menu is different depending if the car has adjustable brake-bias and ARB or only of either.

If you re-do the skinmapping anyways, maybe try to make better all elements as large as possible. There was lots of unused space on the previous template. Larger paintable areas mean higher resolution = better quality.

all of the formular mod cars


(missing a few because I did not notice they had spawned elsewhere and was to lazy to redo it)
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(still missing a few wip/unskinned ones and maybe forgot some)

Last edited by Gutholz, Mon 3 Oct 2022, 03:10.

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To-do list
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- make default liveries

I am making a skin, it is not done yet but will look similiar to the attached picture. are you interested?

Did you know that Westhill Circuit had bought three P50 as promotion for the 2007 Grand Prix?
They are still in use today!




One is used as a service/track safety vehicle and the other two are used for advertisement and special events.
Imagine crashing your car and while you hang in the belts upside-down, this guy pulls up next to you:


The zip-file contains two "race" versions and a "service" version and the svg-vector file.
Anyone is free to make their own variants.
bayanofmansorofisky: if you want, you may also include them with the mod.
The bumpers are not skinnable, instead their colors have to be set with the color-sliders to match the skins.

(The "wrench & broom" logo is sourced from https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Logo_Klarschiff_HRO.svg under Creative Commons CC0 and the crossed flags were also some CC0 file)

Something is wrong with the skin mapping again.
There is no "generate skin template" button ingame. When I try to use your attached template (or any other file) it just results in a white kart.

some of the dashboard textures are mirrored.
for example the text on the switches and the red "E" of emergency shutoff.
(I only tested in lefthand drive.)

When you accelerate to 70 km/h and let off the throttle then the kart will continue to roll for over 4 minutes. Seems a bit strange, does it have not air drag? Also when topside down the wheels seem to spin forever.

It usually feels better to have release something finished rather than having dozen of almost-finished projects hidden on your HDD.

I would not worry about duplicate mods, neither of them is finished yet.

clicking "quote" on posts by user https://www.lfs.net/profile/246262 breaks formating like this:

Quote from Dmitry[RUS :

;1979055"]Reworked suspension.
All-wheel drive 4x4
Changed motor, sound.
Added configuration No license plate (Select configuration)

I guess it could be the [ ]

does it happen with all mods or just these two?

Should the rearbrakes be drums?
Or was there a race version with discs?
Nice little shi-err shoebox eitherway.
Looking forward to more details.

Quote from Doctor_Blender :

You yourself wrote that retopology is essentially a re-creation of the model, respectively, it cannot relate in any way to the original model of the car

It is unclear what you mean by "relate in any way to the original model of the car".
Do you mean:
A) a real-world car, the one made made of metal and plastic?
Of course you can make 3D-models or paintings or whatever that look like real life cars/objects, except for logos.
B) a 3D-file extracted from a video game?

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drawings can also not be used, because they were used to create models for games

Again, that is too vague. What "drawings" exactly do you mean?
For example in this thread https://www.lfs.net/forum/thread/95848-T16-RX someone made a free hands pencil-drawing on paper. Then he made a 3d-model based on that. In this example, he made a phantasy car of his own design. But if you make similar drawings of real-world cars then that would also be ok.
On the other hand, sometimes concept-art of commercial video games is released as promotion. For example: https://tcrf.net/Category:Need_for_Speed:_Most_Wanted_(2005)_concept_art
I feel using such drawings would likely not be ok.

Quote from pärtan :

Is it allowed to use a short video snippet from youtube (not from a game, but real video from a private uploader) and use a series of screenshots from this video to produce a photogrammetry point cloud? In this day and age such things are possible, and quite handy for modellers. I would also like to point out that the geometry information is quite crude and unrefined from this method. This could potentially also fall under fair use since you use only a few seconds of said video, but I'm not sure.

What youtube writes on fair use:
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/6396261?hl=en#zippy=%2Cwhat-constitutes-fair-use
To me, it reads as if it leans towards 3D models from videos are okay.
For example there is this key word "transformative”.
The original 2D video gets transformed into a 3D model, already this change of medium is very transformative.
Similiar, taking measurements seems also okay.
(A retopo of a ripped 3D-file is still a 3D-file, it is only barely transformative. Also the "heart" of a 3D-file is its shape, which gets copied and weighs against fair use.)
Then there is this part:
"Using material from primarily factual works is more likely to be fair than using purely fictional works."
I understand it like this:
A car filmed in a museum or parking lot would be okay as source material.
A scene from the "Mad Max" movie would be less okay.

It is a topic where it is difficult to make concrete rules.
For example taking a screenshot of a video game and using it as reference could be okay. But if the video game has a free camera (like LFS or LFS viewer mode) and you use that to film a car from all angles and then use that video for automatic photogrammetry, then that would just be illegal ripping with extra steps.

I think this buggy mod has the correct rear suspension: https://www.lfs.net/files/vehmods/6DF024
(it has been a few days since I tried that mod, so maybe I remember wrong or it was just cleverly faked)

Quote from Quored :

... people with their own hands from scratch to make mods by taking something ready-made,

I like how you used the radio as gear indicator

nice little buggy. A bit higher resolution for the textures on the engine would be good.
It looks like the real vehicle has a solid axle and the suspension is just a swing, so both wheels move up/down together. (Like the rear swing-arm of a motorcycle but with two wheels) Your mod looks as if the wheels have independent suspension?

nice work, i am always surprised and impressed how people can create 3d models from 'nothing.' (especially with Blender's GUI)

Try https://www.lfs.net/mailus to get your accountname changed.
I think the name was only a secondary reason, your mods were questionable because their 3D models came from other games/credits were wrong. Also every mod had the same description "Edown Family Private Drift Car"

I do not know about Xbox gamepad but with every wheel or gamepad I have ever used, it worked in LFS like this:
Options -> Controlls
select "wheel / joystick" at top.
Then change throttle/brake axis from "combined" to "seperate"

The green part is the axle?
The point where it attachs to the chasis looks too high. I think it needs to be more like the red line.

Quote from Benzinass :

I have noticed it glides much further when the throttle is pinned, perhaps someone can comment on why that is?

I am not good enough lfs-pilot to notice an effect in flight distance.
But it might be related to engine "torque tilt" centrifugal forces? For example it is noticable in LX6 (light car, big engine) if you are in "N" and rev the engine, then the car tilts to the side.

Quote from pärtan :

I'd like some feedback this early in fact from a reviewer. I don't wanna spend time on something if it turns out I don't have enough evidence for my ownership of my mesh.
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I am not "a reviewer", just normal forum, but here is my opinion:
It would indeed be nice to have better evidence.
The matching blueprint and details about modeling technique seem believeable to me, even though it would be possible to fake that. But it would not be as trivial as as some of the "just delete parts of the model" fakes done by others.
Also important, and I realize this is not based on technical facts but subjective:
In the beginning I used to believe everyone who said they had made an original model. Over time, some people lost that trust and I became more sceptical in general. In your case, you did seem like a honest person in the threads about downloaded/retopo'ed models.
So far, I find it all plausible.