Quote from BlueFlame :

American Top Fuel Funny Car
http://www.searchpictures.net/ ... ce_top_fuel_funny_car.jpg

European Top Fuel Funny Car
http://www.eurodragster.com/news/080538_1.jpg

Regardless that the European Funny Car is based on a Pontiac rather than a Mustang they are completely different.

I have also SEEN at an event a Top Fuel Funny Car go under than 5seconds at more than 300mph. So I don't know where you have this statistic plucked from. (possibly your arse)

Take a look in my arse..

US - http://www.nhra.com/stats/natrecord.html

Euro - http://www.eurodragster.com/ti ... uropeanbests/2008_msa.htm

Quote from BlueFlame :

Nevertheless, in Drag Racing, your time has to be 'backed up' which means more than 1 run of the same time. If you see American spec Top Fuel funny cars and European ones, you see clearly that they are totally different body styles. The current American ones have all these spoilers at the back and I think their chassis is a few CM longer too (not sure). Either way, 10years ago, European rules and NHRA Top Fuel Funny Car rules were almost the same, and the European cars were always quicker, with backed up times. Also, if you're going to research this, be sure not to confuse a Funny Car with a dragster sometimes known as a raildragster, and be sure not to mix up Top Methanol with Top Fuel, as they are (clearly) two different classes running on different fuels.

American drag racing is, and always was, faster than euro drag racing. Australian records are also quicker and faster than europe's. Maybe you should do some research yourself?

Also, there's no difference in the bodyshapes. There might be a difference in the material as US cars are now all carbon fibre instead of fibreglass, but apart from that and the livery, the bodies are all the same wedge shape with huge rear wings needed for downforce.

The euro nitro funny car record is a 5.1@289mph where as the US record is 4.6@333mph for the quarter mile. They only run the nitro cars to the 1000 foot mark now (instead of 1320) after the death of Scott Kallita.

Quote from AjRose :

But YOU must really be stupid if you think that is what he is saying..

Yeah, you're right. He's not saying that at all..

Quote from Christopher Raemisch :

Does help all they gotta do is keep the car strait and the engineers do the rest

Still to keep a car strait with that much power going down still takes some skill, but drag racing is more about the performance of the vehicle more than the driver, sure it takes skill, but I bet you my paycheck you could take any drag racer that knows what they are doing and they would run the same times in the same car.

I've seen many people struggle just stepping up from street classes to alcohol cars let alone a nitro car. Running consistent 13's in a street car is a world away from a 4 second nitro funny car.

Quote from Christopher Raemisch :

Hate to burst your bubble blueflame but funnycars pull 5g's during a launch, they probably pull 5g's what, 3-5 times a day? F1 drivers pull that at least once a lap, which races can be over 70 laps.

True 5g's people can black out, but chances are if your fit you won't have any problems.

http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/5839419.html Here is a patent for a throttle control that drivers can use to launch and stage their cars.

http://www.racetronics.net/

http://www.andra.com.au/article.asp?Id=1483
"“We have changed a bit on the two step, working the progressive boost systems in place in trying to make it less angry,” smiled Signorelli." A two step is a device that limits HP to get good launches at WOT.


If you did % wise of time on the track maybe, just maybe you could say that they do more throttle control. Drift racers hold drifts longer than it takes a funnycar to make a run, hell depending on the circuit drift racers probably hold a drift longer than it takes the funnycar to make it's runs during a single day.

If throttle control is so important for a drag racer, why dont they show it in the broadcasts? Never once have I heard a commentator say, "wow look at that throttle control!"

Drag racing is fun, and exciting, but it doesn't take a rocket scientist driver to make these cars run well, it's down to money and mechanics in the shop, the driver is just along for the ride.

None of the links that you provided have anything to do with nitro cars.

You really shouldn't believe everything you see or hear on the tv either... If the commentator isn't talking about throttle control in a nitro car then he really doesn't know what his talking about. Just like yourself it seams.. You really must be naive if you think that anyone can drive 7000hp in a straight line.

You won't need more than a 1L to fill up the compact kit. I had the same kit but with the 240 rad and it took a little over 500ml to fill. The kit comes with concentrated fluid that you mix with de-ionised water so im not sure why you bought the Feser But if its for the uv affect, then you will be disapointed cause the kit comes with black hoses

An ATI 4850 would be a better option than the 9800gt for around the same price. Newer gen card too. I would get better ram if you plan on overclocking otherwise the Adata will be fine.

Quote from major_syphillis :

Some ppl don't have the $ to spend on a game.

Bullshit.

If you can afford a pc to run it, then you can afford to buy it. If not, then get yourself a job.

Quote from Inouva :

You have a G25 , Flame him FLAME HIM!!!!!!one!! 1100!!!

Of course i have one. Seeing how LFS is a racing sim, some of us don't mind spending a little extra money for a decent wheel and pedals.

You can have one too you know...

Get a job bitch, be all you can be.

Quote from JO53PHS :

It doesnt get any worse than this

Yes, it does... A thread 4 pages long with people crying about it.

Quote from Burnzoire :

Question in blue, answer in red. Nuff said.

Yeah, i like to have a greater sense and clearer vision of what's around me on the track. I didn't think this was as much as an advantage as it was common sense. If you can get comfortable in the cockpit view then more power to you but personally the standard cockpits views are not close to a real car, in terms of field of view and sense. I think the best way i can describe driving in the cockpit view is like being in a drive in.

Like i said before, imo, it's driver skill that's the advantage, not the view.

I'm yet to see where the advantage in using wheels view is. As others have pointed out you don't look where the wheels are positioned, you look ahead to where your heading. I use wheels and other custom views basically because they give me a better sense of everything around me an a much clearer view. Much more then the restrictive cockpit view.

In the end it, just like set ups, it ultimately depends on the driver and not the view. The sooner you realize this, the better.

Quote from arco :

He must be bored, or have too much free time, or both

BINGO!

I started getting the same problem again with the 7.4 drivers. Tried testing whether it was the actual driver causing the problem or if it was the CCC itself. I ended up downloading and installing CCC and the drivers separately and i'm currently running 7.3 CCC with 7.5 drivers with the AA/AF initialization problems gone.

So it looks like it's CCC that's causing it, at least it was for me.

This is with an x1950xtx and XP btw.

Last edited by Dizman, Sat 30 Jun 2007, 14:54.

Try installing the xp drivers? I'm not sure how good the XFI drivers were but the Audigy vista drivers were absolutely crap.

I was running ultimate for a while and getting the crackling and popping noises with the vista drivers with my audigy 4. In the end I just installed the latest xp drivers from the creative site and the problems went away.

Have you got V-sync enabled in LFS? It looks like your limited to 59.8 due to your monitor's refresh rate, which is what V-sync does when it's on. Try turning it off and see what happens.

Quote from kdempsey :

did u use the cd or download from web??

I used the cd but profiler didn't see the wheel when it asked for it to be plugged in but i continued with the install just like in xp.

After finishing the profiler install, i unplugged the wheel, then plugged it in again. Vista picked it up straight away and i was able to change the settings around in control panel\game controllers without any worries.

After that, it worked in LFS with no problems.

I'd go with the intel atm, but i would drop down to a e6300 and overclock it, then put the savings toward a better GFX card like Jakg suggested.

I think what you're looking for is in: Options\Controls\Cntrl+ or Alt+.

I haven't seen the G25 advertised in any of the JB ads. Will Dick Smith's match online shop prices? Cause you could try printing some prices off www.staticice.com.au but the cheapest on there atm is $413.

Good luck mate.

Quote from ERRUPT :

Yeah, I understand the G25 wheel is much better than the DFP, but the pedal case is plastic and anything plastic under my feet feels cheap to me and I feel like i'm going to break it (size 11.5 feet)

And when it all comes down to it, I just can't justify spending nearly $500 on a gaming controller all in one hit

But anyway, I'm off to bed. Thanks for the replies guys.

I've got size 12 feet and i can assure you that the g25 pedal base is rock solid, I've had mine since late september and I haven't heard a single squeek out of em after daily bouts of abuse.

If you can't justify spending $500 (You will can find em for cheaper of course) on a good quality set up, then how can you justify spending more for pretty much the same quality product the second time?

I've got a momo (black) and I've tried a DFP, and apart from the bigger wheel turn, there really isn't much difference if any between the 2 imo. But the improvement from the momo to the g25 is massive to say the least and of course you get a complete package for your money.

Edit: Oops, misread your post, sorry.

Last edited by Dizman, Sun 3 Sep 2006, 09:39.

Quote from Forbin :

I tend to disagree, I think a lot of the numbers there are highly inflated.

How? Just because your brand new awesome cpu don't cut it on those charts, does not mean they're wrong.

Arco is talking about my XFG/AS2r hotlap. I'm also getting this error when i try to watch it again. Other replays from the session are ok though. Here's the original file..

Last edited by Dizman, Tue 13 Jun 2006, 15:22.

Hey all, just a quick note on the Fusion server...

The server is now private and only 1.32.99 or better (some exceptions of course) racers can get the pass, we had no choice but to do this after a few morons thought it would be fun to start using our nick's and crashing on our and other servers.

If you don't already have the pass then drop us a line at our forums www.fusionracing.tk and give your lfsworld.net nick to us and we'll send you the pass through lfsworld.net.

We're sorry about the inconvenience but we don't have a choice at the moment until the server follows the team to s2 in the next couple of months.