Andy, did you get the PM I sent a few days ago on iR?

I guess I just want to believe its been built properly. lol

When the hell are KartSim going to release something?!

Quote from tristancliffe :

I wouldn't be surprised if the best currently available commercial kart simulation is actually Gran Turismo 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wat.

It takes about 20 minutes to download, install, and play the demo. So try it out.

Gran Turismo karts are fun (for about 10 seconds), but don't really drive anything like proper karts, and ALL the tracks are huge and flat out almost everywhere.

This sim actually has real tracks, and the physics are 100x better than GT karts, and 10x better than anything in rFactor. Just because visually some funky stuff is going on at the wheels doesn't mean things aren't modelled correctly physically. Though I do admit it's extremely likely shortcuts have been taken, and there are flaws (castor setting seems to make too much difference to handling, FFB goes oddly light during high speed cornering), it's really surprisingly good.

Completely retarded website, I voted in 3/4 different categories until it refreshed and said "You have already voted in this category." , and now I can't vote at all for any category. Tried deleting cookies, still doesn't work.

Quote from Intrepid :

To be fair to get karting right takes a monumental effort, and GT5 would be wasting their time trying to make anything anywhere near realistic.

Also i recall karting was scheduled for GT6 and NOT GT5. The suggestion of karting was leaked in the press, and because it was a popular thing they decided to bring it forward to GT5.

True, but I'm not moaning about the physics, despite them obviously being hugely simplified. It wouldn't take a monumental effort to make some smaller and twistier tracks with shorter straights and tighter hairpins.

True, but it's still at least twice the size of any Kart track I know of IRL... If they shrank the whole thing by half it would be brilliant.

Edit: OK looking at it's length maybe not twice the size, but the corners are too open really for it's length.

Last edited by DaveWS, Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:53.

Is it just me who thinks the Karting could actually potentially be really awesome if it weren't for one huge problem?

All the Kart tracks are friggin huge. Most of the early special event ones are completely flat out everywhere, and you only need to do some braking for 1 or 2 of them in the whole game. Even in the course maker, I can't create anything as short and twisty as you would see in real life. It's a joke lol. The minimum number of sectors in the course maker is 2, and when you add any kind of complexity to the circuit you end up with something nearly 2 miles long.... I'm pretty disappointed how little the GT5 devs seem to know about actual Karting.

David Williams (DaveWS)
Past events: H2H, All-star

Wasn't sure if I could be pulled back to LFS, but with the amount of interest this has gotten I can't pass it up.

It only recommends you don't race on a satellite connection due to high latency. If you have a low ping on your connection then it's fine...

Oh cool, thanks.

Quote from The Moose :

New look at the upcoming "Classic GT" car. Confirmed for release before Christmas


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_4GzjXwT90&hd=1

What's the grey bar just to the right of the pedal displays on the bottom left?

Quote from pearcy_2k7 :

What settings are you using david? 43.9 is my best effort

Just the default set with soft tyres and 4 L fuel. Reduced castor as well to 8 or 9, can't remember.

Wheel settings and stuff I think are important too, I have my wheel set to 210 degrees in control panel, with 100 FFB in game and 0 damping, rotation thingy is off.

Quote from baSh0r :

43,466 // 13.685 & 15.888 & 13.893

pretty good lap, that were 2 pb splits for me (all except for mid sector, tpb is 15.826 there)

There might be a 42 possible but it's getting quite thin

Hehe, impressive!

I haven't really fiddled that much with the setup options, so a 42 is quite probably possible. Though I need to stop messing around with this and do some work! :P

Quote from Intrepid :

The difficulty with getting a decent kart simulation working is the minimal steering input and coding force feedback to feel correct. Also, the way you use your body has an effect on the kart quite substantially. So it is hard to compare sim with real life. It's more like bike racing at times in that sense.

I need to fiddle about with the settings a bit on this. See if I can get it working better

Yeah, I think real karting is easier, since you feel more part of the kart itself etc. And yeah I also found I had to fiddle around with all the settings to get it to feel right, but once you get it it's fantastic.

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI43XCyO7RE

Last edited by DaveWS, Mon, 6 Dec 2010 16:40.

Quote from rc10racer :

Thanks for the set bash0r.

45 44.390 13.850 16.248 14.292 115.6 km/h

Sucks but not bad considering i have never experienced how a kart handles before but since it's a sim i bet it's not close to how a real life kart handles.

I've driven 2 stroke karts before, and it's pretty damn good IMO.

I'm down to 43.702, with the default set just with soft tyres, and less fuel. Replay attached.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jR6WvS8WbHU

Same circuit.

Edit: RasmusL, I found I had to wait a while between loading stuff, with nothing happening on the screen, but it seems stuff was just loading in the background.

This is awesome! The fundamentals feel fantastic, and the castor setting makes loads of difference to the karts handling. Hands down the best kart sim yet.

Down to a 45.000 after an hour or messing around. 43 is possible probably.

Hi all.

I'm after a new board as my current one only has a 4x PCIe slot, and can't run my CPU past 2.1 Ghz (ASRock 4CoreDual), so I think it's bottlenecking things quite badly in iRacing.

I need more than 2 slots for RAM since I have 3 sticks, and I want to be able to overclock my CPU (E2140) to around 3 Ghz if possible, which apparantly it will do with the stock cooler. I'm looking to spend the minimum really.

This one looks like it meets my requirements - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/161010

But it seems some people have had problems with crashing, and not booting with USB devices attached. :/

Quote from spanks :

Nice lap Dave! How do you like the car?

Just got back from classes all day...midterm and all. Can't wait to get back to it

Well it's pretty much as awesome as I was hoping. Driving it around Silverstone gives a weird sense of deja vu, after watching so much onboard F1 footage over the years.

It's fairly easy to drive under the limit, but once you start to push things it really gets interesting. Needs very good throttle control at low speed which is great, and there's so many setup options which might cause my brain to explode. My only gripe is that the tyres feel very under damped, which leads to a bit of a "pogo" effect after some bumps / curbs, but hopefully we can tune that out with the setup options. Best sim experience yet though easily.

Impressive stuff, grats Dennis!

Quote from boothy :

The protests will be ruled upon after the 48 hour protest period and after forwarding the protests to the other party.

Didn't mean to sound dismissive, good to know, thanks.

Edit:

Quote :

I'm saying you spun and that pretty much put you behind SR at the end. That isn't an if if if thats what actually happened.

Pretty much put me behind at the end? Did you not see us fighting for 2nd again on the final lap?

Anyway, it obvious to me the admins aren't going to interfere with the result and take action over our protest, despite how legitimate it might be. So when all is said and done, congratulations to SR and especially Conquest, you've all done a great job this season, Inex too.

Quote from CSF :

No I am not saying that, I am saying the discussion wouldn't be happening as you would have been away and gone and the title would have been in 3id's hands.

But it did happen, and the move(s) by SR approaching the hairpin was naughty. You're the one saying if if if, I'm the one stating what actually happened.