Well, don't try and act like you can "push" Scawen into developing any faster which would result in us getting them even slower because we all know your voice means sweet "f" all just like everybody else's
I don't think theres anything you could do to speed up the progress TBH.
And only 16 pages in, man your fast :P
I doubt i will be able to handle the FFB at 83!
Because that would fuel the update wars
Just keeping this thread alive....
Maybe the developers drank all their development money away?
Maybe the developers drank all their development money away?
One car one track demo to get a feel the new physics would be good enough for me!
I only ever argue where I see fit and im used to debates far more intellectual and academic than a bunch of LFS fanbois! You could say that, but it would be under false pretension because my argument has stayed the same throughout otherwise why would I have a) bothered and b) stuck with it?! If anything can be salvaged from this argument it's that you et al have made multiple personal attacks including this one, sign of a weak argument? I most certainly think so.
Good day to you.
There is just no way of getting you to understand anything :banghead:
Medicine training is more intensive though and probably more financially rewarding
I don't think this thread could get any more off topic lol. Until theres an update in it I don't think theres any harm derailing it as it keeps it active and hopefully in the moderators eye!
Yes it is, I'd highly recommend it, im actually studying a dual honours Computer Science & Psychology and psy is by far the most interesting. You can pretty much see everything from it as it covers so much from driving to music even the psychology of trees!
Not sure what a 'straw man' is, I am assuming clutching at straws? If so then I don't believe so, I said my piece and I stick by it. I am in my last few months of my Psychology degree and I fully agree that driving in a racing sim helps strengthen and refine the schemas used for race driving. But, my argument if you want to get more scientific is that the skills you develop in LFS are not directly mappable to those used in real life. I believe this comes from the lack of 100% realism in the physics but also the lack sensation. More specifically, when you are driving a real car you can feel so much more, through the seat, the wheel, gravity, everything and this activates a far more broader aspect of the mind. Put it this way, how much easier is it to get 'in the zone' in a RL kart than the MRT in LFS? A lot more, where the knowledge of control and prediction of the car will be similar, and practice in LFS will help you here by making your actions more second nature, you need to develop the RL experience in order to develop your RL driving skills.
Now hopefully you can see where my COD illustration came from. It's not a comparison, but a more extreme example to make it easier to understand my point.
I'll let the LFS worshippers think what they want, your always going to have difficulty challenging LFS on an LFS forum.
That's exactly what I am saying! LFS WILL help you become a better racer, but not because you get experience of handling a car but because it teaches you the dynamics of racing. That does not mean I am saying the physics are totally incomparable, I am saying they are not good enough (as of yet at least) for you to be able to be good at LFS and then jump out and be as good as if you had lots of RL experience. In order to be good in RL you need RL experience, but LFS will help you get there as a 'tool'. If what Bawbag et al were saying is correct, then I can easily punch out 30 laps around Blackwood in the BF1, do you think id have the same chance in a RL F1 car? Most certainly not. But would it help me? Sure would, as I know to be a lot more sensitive on the throttle
I knew this was too ridiculous to believe. Vale, the 2010 Williams test driver, so clearly one of the best drivers in the world, yes he is a member of LFS but his racing career started in 2001 and has been in a RL championship every year. To say he went from LFS into a real car is the most ludicrous statement i've heard so far. He is a RL racer not an LFS'er who got draught into Williams F1!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valtteri_Bottas
With these kind of stupid posts it's no wonder you made me angry.
What is the point, seriously. It's a ****ing metaphor! I give up, there seems to be a heck of a lot of arrogant argumentative teenagers that haven't even passed GCSE English yet.
All supporting my argument. LFS will not make you Michael Schumacher, but it will teach you what he knows. It's putting it into practice that will make you fast in RL. I think a lot of proof reading is necessary here before people start shouting their mouths off about their understanding of other peoples arguments
I think the problem a lot of LFS'ers have is that they want to believe it makes them that much of a better driver.
It was an example used to illustrate my point, I was not making a comparison! I honestly don't know how anybody would want to spend time debating here because it usually ends up too literal without making any progress. The example served it's purpose, so stop being so argumentative.
As far as i'm aware no F1 driver has trained on a racing simulator. They use it for a difference purpose, Lewis Hamilton uses them as a tool to learn the track, different setups and strategies etc. Without actually having the RL experience he has got he would be useless. In fact he wouldn't even be competitive in a Kart. And that was my point. You cannot use LFS and then step into a RL car thinking you can control it, you may know the dynamics of racing through LFS but you don't have the necessary skill and experience to apply it directly to RL, for that you need actual RL experience, at least at the moment you do.
Unfortunately i'd like that to be true but I can't believe it. Fast people in LFS are almost always the ones who have done a ridiculous amount of mileage compared to the others. If you play COD all day everyday you will ace it, but stick you in a real war with real guns and you'd get your head blown off!
There's a video on youtube where Nico Rosberg was racing people on a racing simulator and was sick of getting beaten by the general public, as he said "bankers etc". If your theory was true then Nico should have been much faster than the average joe on a simulator.
Exactly my point. LFS teaches you HOW to control a car but it does not give you the necessary experience to apply it to real cars. A basic example, if a total noob started playing LFS, then went into a real car on a real track he would know how to control the car, but he would be starting at level zero in terms of being able to control it simply because the sensation, feeling and physics are not directly transferable to real life.
What you have just said is "bollocks" actually, if you were karting way before you started playing LFS then it's completely different to what I said in my post was it!
The throttle certainly does not need FFB, and neither does the clutch, with my limited 4 years driving experience it's hard enough to feel when the brakes are locked up through the pedal let alone when the clutch bites. It's more from the steering and seat that you feel a lock up.
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