I'm not denying that some folks believe that games cause violent crime - I'm sure that some still believe the world is flat, moons made of cream cheese etc.
What I'm getting at is that some here seem to be using the fact that games do NOT cause murder as an argument against censorship.... I'm saying that there are valid reasons for censorship, and that bringing the 'games cause school shootings' line in to the discussion is just a big ol' straw man.
Maybe niche is the wrong word - I mean that childrens books are just a small section of the total books market. People don't think of books as 'kids stuff'
No, I meant what I said - maybe could have put it clearer, I'll try again
Right now the majority still see video games as primarily 'for kids'
For this reason it is unlikely that said people would expect the type and level of obscenely violent content in many games - so would not be as careful about little johnny getting access to big brothers game collection as they would about... say... his porno collection...
If on the other hand the majority perceived games as adult entertainment, they would be much more aware and careful about who gets access and therefor exposure to the games with extreme content.
The censors must take these things into consideration - if they didn't, they would be failing in their duty to society !
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Of course, there's also the fact that we just don't know what - if any - effect violence in video games has on peoples behavior - games with remotely 'realistic' first person graphics have not been available for long enough to find out.
At most it could help to tip the borderline psychos over the edge when otherwise they might have stayed 'normal'... who knows for sure ?
I keep hearing the same old crap 
The truth is that games, films etc are not banned because the censors think they cause school shootings, violent crime etc.
They are banned because they are judged as being highly offensive to many people while also having no additional social, cultural or artistic value !
Video games are still seen by the majority in the UK as being for kids !
So many folk would be shocked and surprised to see just how explicit and horrific some of the content is.
If video games were seen by society as a whole as a pass-time for adults with a small niche market for children (like movies books etc.) then you can be sure the censorship would be more lenient!
The truth is that games, films etc are not banned because the censors think they cause school shootings, violent crime etc.
They are banned because they are judged as being highly offensive to many people while also having no additional social, cultural or artistic value !
Video games are still seen by the majority in the UK as being for kids !
So many folk would be shocked and surprised to see just how explicit and horrific some of the content is.
If video games were seen by society as a whole as a pass-time for adults with a small niche market for children (like movies books etc.) then you can be sure the censorship would be more lenient!
I think it would be moving towards being more acceptable if the player started experiencing repercussions - not getting arrested and fighting the police rather 'seeing' disturbing flashbacks of his previous victims - the gameworld avatar becoming 'disturbed' - more unpredictable and difficult to control, ultimately resulting in 'losing' the game - the avatar acting in a frenzied and emotional manner drops to his knees tearing at his hair with eyes wide and bulging - sees more flashback snippets, then proceeds to turn his gun on himself. (Maybe this remorse and self recrimination factor would be reduced for violence against opposing gang members than for random violence against innocent civilians.. ?
Unfortunately this kind of thing would have to be handled with maturity and a great deal of skill otherwise it would just be another 'feature' that folks would seek out on purpose - taking enjoyment from the virtual suffering they caused !
It would be a step in the right direction though !
OT - about paints
Do you mean Acrylics ?
If so, see if you can get hold of a bottle of 'scumble glaze medium' sold for interior decorators to do fancy paint effects, but if you use it with acrylics, it retards drying and gives a good sheen, lets you use more oil techniques with acrylic
... also, put a very small drop of washing up liquid into the water you use - it breaks the surface tension and helps a lot...I CAN project my thoughts from my brain to another brain !
Using some special internal organs (that have to be trained from a very early age), I can focus energy to vibrate atomic particles in the atmosphere and use them to channel my thoughts in a way that allows others with similarly developed skills to READ MY MIND !!
(otherwise known as talking)
:spyoda:
Using some special internal organs (that have to be trained from a very early age), I can focus energy to vibrate atomic particles in the atmosphere and use them to channel my thoughts in a way that allows others with similarly developed skills to READ MY MIND !!
(otherwise known as talking)
:spyoda:
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Its all about context and intentions...
Films and other traditional media that have graphic depictions or descriptions of violence, rape etc. are expected to do so within a responsible context.
e.g. 'Baddies' in a crime drama do bad things, but it is made clear throughout that this behavior is unacceptable. In cases where the 'goodies' use violence, there is usually some attempt at justification for these actions, and often some sort of remorse, guilt or notion that it is not a pleasurable experience...
Some, movies get into ambiguous territory, but usually the use some sort of tactic to make the situation acceptable for the intended audience e.g. some would say that Kill Bill gets away with gratuitous violence because it uses it in a highly stylized almost cartoon manner with continual canonical references (of course many people consider these films to be in very poor taste)
Most Games OTOH that contain violence make no attempt whatsoever to provide a meaningful context for the violence they contain - it is in many cases the only point! To make things worse, they tend to strive for as realistic believable looking visuals as possible (rather than stylized). In general, either there is no attempt at providing any reference points to how society as a whole 'feels' about the activities depicted, or the attempts made are token, poorly conceived and therefor valueless (A bit like the plot in a porno movie).
If/when games do provide responsible believable context and a philosophically and morally mature 'player' experience, then they will be able to 'get away' with more explicit and horrific content before being censored (IMO of course).
Films and other traditional media that have graphic depictions or descriptions of violence, rape etc. are expected to do so within a responsible context.
e.g. 'Baddies' in a crime drama do bad things, but it is made clear throughout that this behavior is unacceptable. In cases where the 'goodies' use violence, there is usually some attempt at justification for these actions, and often some sort of remorse, guilt or notion that it is not a pleasurable experience...
Some, movies get into ambiguous territory, but usually the use some sort of tactic to make the situation acceptable for the intended audience e.g. some would say that Kill Bill gets away with gratuitous violence because it uses it in a highly stylized almost cartoon manner with continual canonical references (of course many people consider these films to be in very poor taste)
Most Games OTOH that contain violence make no attempt whatsoever to provide a meaningful context for the violence they contain - it is in many cases the only point! To make things worse, they tend to strive for as realistic believable looking visuals as possible (rather than stylized). In general, either there is no attempt at providing any reference points to how society as a whole 'feels' about the activities depicted, or the attempts made are token, poorly conceived and therefor valueless (A bit like the plot in a porno movie).
If/when games do provide responsible believable context and a philosophically and morally mature 'player' experience, then they will be able to 'get away' with more explicit and horrific content before being censored (IMO of course).
we should be racing 
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Unfortunately nothing is ever as simple as it first seems - particularly in programming !
I imagine that you are right to suggest that calculating the ammount of damage to apply would be fairly straightforward, thats only part of the problem though.. the real difficulty comes when trying to respond to that damage !
We know that LFS has a simplified suspension model. Can the current model support having individual suspension components carrying variable amounts and types(bending, twisting, total failure) of damage (other than what is already implemented) - I doubt it, because if it did, then I imagine it would already have been implemented. So my guess is that before more detailed suspension damage can be implemented, the suspension model will have to be updated to be more comprehensive and more 'realistic'. Unfortunately for each component you expand to include these extra damage variables, you will have to use a more complex and cpu intensive set of physics calculations...
I'm sure Scawen will come up with a good compromise between increased realism and cpu efficiency when he does decide to update the suspension.
(Its similar to collision detection issues - the difficult part is not detecting a collision, but generating a believable response to that collision.)
I agree, these things will make a huge difference.
In the short term, radiator damage seems like the most simple and effective way to change driver behavior... If the front of your car hitting another car or the scenery causes the engine to overheat and die, it will make a big difference to current pack mentality.... also if a trip across the grass causes the radiator intakes to fill up with turf and also results in overheating, that should help to prevent serious cutting... I think it would be more useful and easier to implement than more detailed accurate suspension damage. Stopping folks from taking as much kerb will just cause them to adjust their lines - it won't change overall behaviour really, not like radiator damage would IMO.. (Of course, I would love to see more detailed suspension damage just for the immersion factor
)For the aero cars, a head on shunt or trip accross the grass should have an effect on your downforce (IIRC it currently doesn't?)
cheers
Col
I suppose (just guessing coz no-one else has answered your question
) that if it were a small custom shop, they may be able to create a light car with small engine faster because of the practical problems of work-space and of dealing with the weight of the engine... bigger frame members means more welding so takes longer - I guess ?... etc.If it is a production car then the weight vs engine size is probably has little relevance compared with the complexity of the design and the type of materials technology used in the construction...
mmm.. I love crab, lobster prawns, shellfish etc. BUT they have to be REALLY fresh, like off the boat caught the same day...
Also, if you can get mackerel into a pan and on the plate within an hour or two of it swimming in the sea, it is amazing - leave it longer and it turns really bland!
No kidding
), my favourite foods are thai green curry (hot with fresh chilli)... and North Indian chilli garlic chicken - my local curry house is GOOD and use plenty of fresh green herbs plus loads of nice fresh hot chillis ).Don't like very hot curries done with powder.. bleaaach... has to be lots of green chillis, garlic and plenty of hot ginger...
As you say, this food gets you high
Probably the most disturbing dreams I remember having (not most 'scary') are the ones where your dreaming and you wake up, get up, start getting ready for the day etc. then weird shit starts happening and you freak out and wake up - again !... it's disturbing because it really screws with your perception of what reality is (at least it did when it happened to me)...
Can't help thinking there's more to that than meets the eye
"Stop filming..."
"the camera's off"
"I can see the light is on"
"its off dad"
...a few days earlier...
"Son, what color car did your sister say she wanted again ?"
"Red"
"Are you sure ?, I thought it was blue"
"Positive dad - she hates blue cars..."
"Stop filming..."
"the camera's off"
"I can see the light is on"
"its off dad"
...a few days earlier...
"Son, what color car did your sister say she wanted again ?"
"Red"
"Are you sure ?, I thought it was blue"
"Positive dad - she hates blue cars..."
Some of the cars are carrying extra weight now - at least online - this could cause them to lock the wheels where they didn't previously
have to agree with that
I disagree - reason has too many restrictions caused by its odd use of the 'rack' as its 'hardware metaphor'... but then I compare all these apps to Orion, and that has far and away the easiest and most intuitive interface... combined with serious quality effects and synths... (the realtime impulse reverb is amazing, as are the sampler and 'WaspXT')
Have you tried Orion seriously - ie. for a few days rather than minutes ?
Nothing can compare for throwing ideas together quickly.... but it can take you all the way through to the pre-mastering stage (most serious musicians get their mastering done by mastering engineers anyway)...
For all the weird and crazy stuff that Orion is not designed to do, Reaktor is the NUTS
, and of course they work together really well )cheers
Col
As I understand it, Ableton Live is a perfect complement to Orion....
Reason is a toy !
comparing Reason to Cubase, Live or Orion is like comparing Mariokart to LFS !
can't even use vsti plugins ffs and the sound quality of the built-ins is very poor.
hard and fair racing
is what our hearts desire
and we live for speed
is what our hearts desire
and we live for speed
tap my rear then say
"sorry" and drive away - man
you deserve a ban
"sorry" and drive away - man
you deserve a ban
you want me to race ?
I'm to busy with haiku
to play live for speed
I'm to busy with haiku
to play live for speed
last lap, still in first
just the final turn to do
kerb then tyres flip me
just the final turn to do
kerb then tyres flip me
Not reality ?
I can hear, see and feel it,
I must be crazy !
I can hear, see and feel it,
I must be crazy !
coffee: check, wheel: check
instant messenger off: check
time to rock'n'roll!
instant messenger off: check
time to rock'n'roll!
don't worry buddy
this server has reset on
we love arcade mode
this server has reset on
we love arcade mode
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