One of the things that I see coming out of this decision is that we´ll see much more team orders determining the races and a clear distinction between first and second driver on a team. Let´s take as an example that a driver from a certain team wins the first GP of the season and it´s second behind his teammate on the second GP. If you were responsible for that team, what would you do? Let the second driver win the race, knowing that you could loose the title because of a single win, or define at the second GP of the season, which one of your drivers is going to fight for the drivers championship? Doesn´t seem too hard to find the answer...

Quote from George Kuyumji :

btw chunkyracer Microsoft did it also with FSX regarding licensing, they officially do not support or make advertising with the add-on planes or helicopters, but they supported strongly others to do them.

I´m not familiar with flight simulators, so cant give a comment on that. Maybe I´m understanding it all wrong, but what I fail to see is how something like what you want could be done. You want LFS open for modding, but not for everyone, so it doesn´t go the RFactor way. At the same time you want real life tracks, which would mean that those selected few that would have the tools and the knowledge to mod LFS, could not be directly suported or have their work distributed by the LFS devs, to avoid licensing issues. Sorry, but I don´t see how a scheme like this could be done without it backfiring in devs faces, and with them spending 80% of their time explaining in this forum how some people can mod the game and others don´t, and how at the same time they don´t have nothing to do with it... So, honestly I prefer and think it´s best for the future of LFS that they keep focused on making LFS a better simulator.

Quote from swisscosmo :

I was looking for some demo's on www.gamershell.com and i looked at the 10 most popular demo's of this week to be downloaded and LFS is 9th) so we are slowly getting popular.

No, no, no... You must be wrong... Didn´t you read this forum lately??!!! LFS is dead, gone, diseased, kaputt!... Or at least, some say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE

Quote from George Kuyumji :

Modding has always been a grey area regarding licenses, like all the real life versions of tracks for rFactor are not licensed.

The question is that none of those tracks or any of the modding content of Rfactor is conected or supported in an oficial way by the creators of the game. No track owner or car company is willing to take the time to go after some anonymous modder, but that doesn´t mean they will not do it against a software company or game creators that are making money from selling their games. Which means that any kind of content that has a real life counterpart, couldn´t have official support by the devs, therefore it wouldn´t be possible to control what is released and by whom, ending with the same disavantages that RFactor has, and that, I think, is not what this community wants from LFS.

Quote from PaulC2K :

If you dished out penalties which reflected the damage done, it still makes little difference when its a GT1/GT2 cross-class incident, penalising them an hour you wont benefit from it.

Likewise, time alone is irrelevent, if your on say lap 5 and mid-pack, and your spun losing 10 seconds, you lose around 10 places. Penalising someone 10sec in 2hrs time when you've finally got an MPR to make the protest, and the pack is spread out and 10sec means nothing anymore.
You cant justify different penalties for identical incidents, purely because the circumstances beyond the incident are different. If someone spins you due to an avoidable mistake, that should be a fixed penalty, and to my knowledged thats always been the case.

I think sometimes people forget that sometimes these incidents happen in real life racing, and nothing happens. They're called crashes, and in most cases the race goes on if possible. Its not often you get cars sent for a SG or DT, yet when you consider the number of incidents you see its a low percentage which get penalised in most series.

I agree with this. It´s almost impossible to have an objective measure of the real time lost because of an incident. It depends a lot on the circunstances of where, how and when it happened. For example this race, we had an incident right at the beginning of the race, that in pratice made us start the race 1 lap behind every team, and with all GT2 cars in front of us that we had to overtake to regain places. How can anyone evaluate what was the real time lost with this incident?? Was it 1 lap, 2 laps?? I don´t really know... The team that caused the incident got a DT penalty which is the usual penalty in these circunstances. Incidents and mistakes from the drivers are part of racing, and I think that we have to live with it. Sometimes it happens to you and ruins your race, sometimes it happens to others and you gain places because of it.

Like the title says Speed Core is celebrating their 2th Birthday this weekend. So, we think it´s time to thank everyone that' s been part of this journey, and who we had the privilege to race with.
We would like to thank all the admins and organizers of the leagues we raced in, with a special mention to the ones from IGTC and MOE, for giving us the chance to race against the best. We hope we haven´t disapointed you on the confidence you showed us...
We would also like to thank all the ex-Speed Core members, with a special mention to André Roque (Rocabiliz), Afonso Quelhas (FOX 1977), Nuno Pinheiro (W1ldport75) and Gabi Almeida (Gabi SL). We wouldn´t be the same without your contribution...
So, now is time to look into the future and hope that the next years will be at least as good as these were, and that we can keep having fun together, racing in LFS. To finish, if you want, head over to this topic, http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?t=54712, to have a look at a video made by our own, Nelson Marques (Falcon_PT), as a celebration of this date.

Last edited by chunkyracer, Mon, 2 Mar 2009 12:44.

Speedcore's skin for the 6h Blackwood.

Last edited by chunkyracer, Fri, 27 Feb 2009 23:56.

#17 Speed Core Racing Team
GT1 FZR

zero_0, Luis Barbosa, Portugal
Falcon_PT, Nelson Marques, Portugal
GTR_PT, Pedro Marques, Portugal
Bessa74, Rui Bessa, Portugal
[SNEK], Paulo Ferreira, Portugal
A. Araujo, André Araújo, Portugal

Speed Core nº18 IGTC skin 2048 version.

Team Name: Speed Core
Car Number: 18

Drivers:
P.Ferreira [[SNEK]] PRT
L.Barbosa [zero_0] PRT
R.Bessa [Bessa74] PRT
V.Dengucho [chunkyracer] PRT

#17 Speed Core Racing Team
GT1 FZR

zero_0, Luis Barbosa, Portugal
Falcon_PT, Nelson Marques, Portugal
GTR_PT, Pedro Marques, Portugal
Bessa74, Rui Bessa, Portugal
[SNEK], Paulo Ferreira, Portugal
A. Araujo, André Araújo, Portugal
chunkyracer, Vitor Dengucho, Portugal

Speedcore's skin for the 24h Aston.

Quote from The Moose :

Demo servers will always be the same, no matter what the sim.

But, surely you will agree with me that is rather different to have the possibility to kick and ban wohever causes problems, than just sit back and watch someone ruining the races in your own server. Specially in a sim that has only 4 cars to choose from. I wouldn´t pay for a server that I can not admin, and if this problem isn´t solved it will be hard to find open demo servers, which means that it will be hard to try the game online and have a direct influence on sales. And without sales, we´ll have Jaap "creating" facts to keep people interested while Stefano is busy doing all sort of other stuff to earn enough to pay his bills. Opening the demo the way it was done, without preventing that this kind of problems could appear, just reveals a poor judgement and lack of strategie on how to promote your product...

Team Name: Speed Core Racing Team
Car Model: FZR
Team Manager: chunkyracer
Team Vice-Manager: Falcon_PT
Drivers:

A.Araújo [A. Araujo] PRT
B.Silva [Mad Max [PT]] PRT
L.Barbosa [zero_0] PRT
N.Marques [Falcon_PT] PRT
P.Ferreira [[SNEK]] PRT
P.Marques [GTR_PT] PRT
P.Santos [BSantos] PRT
R.Bessa [Bessa74] PRT
V.Dengucho [chunkyracer] PRT

Last edited by chunkyracer, Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:17. Reason : Added new driver

Quote from ljuba :

I hope that I want upset anybody with my question, because I don't have time to read 16 pages in this thread.
I tried with search and with google but I can't find information that clearly states that Scirocco is going to be available only in S2.

Is it going to be in demo?

Taken from the announcement of the release of the Scirocco that you can find in the LFS site or here in this forum: http://www.lfsforum.net/showthread.php?p=1003401#post1003401

Quote :

You will need an S1 or S2 license in order to drive the Scirocco when it is released.

Quote from Timdpr :

AAARGH! This game is going to destroy my ****ing wheel!

Whenever I hit 'race', and I spawn in the pits, my wheel (DFP) starts thrashing from side to side seriously hard. I mean it - if I have my hand in the wrong place when it is doing 'it', I could easily break a finger or two... I've tried various settings to try and stop it, but they just ain't working. It's not just when I'm driving - it continues if I watch a replay etc.

Help me, someone!

I had the same problem... At first the wheel just shake even before I started the car. I adjusted the FF frition and damper settings and the feedback gain and it was ok. The next day when I started Netkar the wheel just shaked violently even with those settings at zero and it was impossible to drive. After almost deciding not to try Netkar again, I just turned the wheel form lock to lock in the box before starting the car and the problem disapeared. Have no ideia why, but it didn´t happen again till now...

Quote from Blakey. :

ill accept all

If you wanna see how other people drive the best place to visit is LFSWorld... Since you´re starting with LFS, I don´t know if you´re already familiar with all of his features, but if not, then you should, because, for me is one of the best things LFS has to offer, and that, in my opinion, no other sim as even came close in terms of information and statistics you can find there. That a look at the hotlap charts, where you can download the replay of the laps posted, and study about the lines and driving, some of the fastest guys in LFS use. Besides that, there´s also the Replay Analyser that you can use to compare hotlaps, and where you can compare any lap that you upload with other drivers, which will provide you a lot of information.

Last edited by chunkyracer, Tue, 23 Dec 2008 16:03.

Any ideia when it's going to start? I would like to join because the Winter BTCC was great fun and I enjoyed it a lot, but with Christmas coming and until the end of the year, is going to be really complicated for me to play, since there will be a lot of days I wont be home...

Quote from Blackout :

I wonder how this thread had gone if it was made by someone more, let's say someone who had joined last year or later (wanted to say more noob, but that would hint Kev is a lesser noob than others).

Everybody would quickly jump on him, and happily remind him, how someone with half a brain could easily use the "allmighty" search function, and find that information in 0.02s...

Quote from rjm1982 :

Lastly... I'm not trying to convince you of anything... as I've said before I know its not for everyone by far. I just want to make sure that people aren't getting the wrong impression for the wrong reason!

Picking up on this last sentence, about IRacing not being for everyone and people getting wrong impressions, and coming back to what Mattesa was refering earlier on this thread and that Moose also aluded too, let me quote a post that was made today in RSC: ( I´ve highlighted one of the sentences, because is absolutely precious...)

Quote :

Note guys that the target market for the sim is not the "gamers", those will quit for whatever reason they can convince themselves with.

The sim is targeted at race car drivers, if you are one, be it a virtual race car driver, then you know that for some it is the only way to approach it as we don't have the talent, health or finances to do it in real life. iRacing becomes the only possible avenue.

For real race teams, then it will become the tool of choice for practice, saving them thousands of dollars. This is who iRacing wants as customers, all the members from SCCA and other large race organizations, to the little grassroots racing groups.

The pricing structure is made to weed out the little gamers.

They have 12 week seasons, so you know that every 12 weeks or so , new developments are added to the sim, not getting the 1 patch and then be forgotten like most.

If IRacing was only targeted to race drivers they shouldn´t have gone public, this way preventing us "little gamers" from disturbing the "ubber, dupper, super hardcore simracers" in their quest for virtual glory. I believe that this kind of attittude that some IRacers have, altough may boost their ego meters, doesn´t do any good to Iracing and their reputation, and seeing that they chose to keep their forum private, these are the kind of things that someone who hasn´t tried IRacing reads. Don´t know if they have someone to go trough what is posted about IRacing in other foruns, but I think that they should be quick in responding to these kind of posts in a place like RSC, that is problably one of the places that most simracers go to.

Just a quick note, before I get interpreted the wrong way, to say that the sentence I quoted doesn´t reflect at all the kind of attitude I´m talking about, and that I just used as an introdution to my post, because it refered to the fact that Iracing isn´t for everyone...

Quote from thisnameistaken :

I hate to be such a bitch - especially regarding a car I don't really drive - but it seems the FZR still has a wood panelling interior.

It's been with us for over three years now, which seems like a long time to spend with a road-car interior on a GTR. Any idea when that might change?

For someone that spends so much time posting in this forum, and trying to be funny, and I have to admit, sometimes with relative sucess, you know as well as I and most of us here, that the new interiors for the GTR cars are not released yet, exception made to the XRR. If you were only trying to look smart by creating this "ironic" topic, I must say that you failed, creating just another one useless topic that serves no purpose than to annoy anyone that visits this forum looking for some real information and discussion about LFS, and has to go trough all kinds of crap before finding something worth reading... Well done!!

Quote from deggis :

And in the mean time in Kunos' residence:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IazqIHwKe8

I have to say that i been following Netkar Pro since before its release and by that time I tought it would be the sim that would divide my free time along with LFS. When it was released I tried the demo, but it just didn´t work well on my PC and I decided not to buy it. Today I keep on searching all the news about it, but now just out of curiosity to see how far it goes, because no matter how good it is, I for sure ain´t gonna buy it. If you were all portuguese I could easily find a couple of expressions to describe my thoughts about "Kunos", but since you´re not it´s better not say anything, but giving my money to someone like him is completely out of question. Releasing that video at this time is really taking the piss off of his Netkar costumers. It´s the same as saying "hey people, while you're all out there shouting for me to work in getting the Netkar patch ready, I´m in here having a bit of fun with my free time project and going for a spin in Trento Bodone, that track I made a long time ago, and that neither of you will be able to drive sometime soon. So long, suckers!!!".

Quote from AppiePils :

To resolve the issue regarding what car to use, we ask of you to make the decision for what of the two cars you would make the skin: FZ5/VWS or perhaps you want to make a skin for both.

I think that it was better, either take the safest option and keep the contest only for the FZ5 or, if you wanna keep the choice of using the VWS, ask people to enter a skin for both, and without the need to be similar in both cars. After all, the shape of the FZ5 and VWS are very different, which means that a skin that looks great on one, will not necessarily look great also, when transposed to the other.

I think this problem has got much more to do with the fact that with a silver license you can also race in the Race3 server with the UFR and XFR, and it looks like most of the people prefers to drive those instead of the TBO´s. I´ve been racing in Race2 last week and was planning on doing it again this week, but most of the times I join the server, do a race to see if other people join and end up leaving the server because no one joins or the ones that do, just leave the server right afterwards without even joining the track. Don´t think that allowing the XFG and XRG to race there would do any good, because if you were the only TBO racing it would be exactly the same as it is now, and you would end up changing to one of the other cars to have a proper race, transforming Race2 in the second Race1 server.

Quote from nuno190 :

como nos registramos???????????????'

Como deves ter reparado, este post é de Fevereiro deste ano e portanto refere-se a uma competição que entretanto já terminou. Para estares a par de outras competições deste género deves registar-te no fórum SimRacing Portugal, http://www.simracingportugal.net, e obviamente adquirir uma licença S2, pois é muito raro a organização de competições para utilizadores da demo. Como um dos moderadores da secção de LFS nesse fórum, posso informar-te que neste momento não existe nenhuma competição deste género a decorrer, nem te posso dar uma data de quando voltarão a existir, mas com certeza que outras existirão num futuro breve...