I find CSR with the lx6 brilliant. I have the CSR volume set to 1 though, so the LFS sounds still figure, all mixes quite well imho... don't feel at all handicapped by it.

drag the volume offset of the throttle on drivetrain noise down to 0 and see if that is what you're talking about Boris. If not it must be in the high revs throttle on sample...

your entirely right about pitspotter, sorry. I read a number of posts talking about being unable to make pitspotter and csr work, and assumed too much
PS and CSR are working fine for me now.

fair point - never heard one that loud though

I adjusted this soundset to suit my tastes, the transmission whine is far lower, gearshifts sound the same regardless of h-pattern position, a little gearbox noise when you back off, and a lower pitch on the engine, are the basics. Sounds great to my ears now, so I'm happy - thanks for your work on this James.

My modified one can be found here
http://members.iinet.net.au/~cdriver/LX6_csr_blowtus.zip

ok, I got this to work - have pitspotter and csr functional, but I get thousands of 'unknown packet' messages, making it currently unusable.

edit: am unable to make it work again, same old 'unexpected error occurred'
using xp sp2, .net 1.1 and 2.0
edit2: made it go again - quite temperamental clearly same unknown packet issues

Last edited by Blowtus, Thu 19 Oct 2006, 04:41.

aston club in the mrt has got to be one of the best combos for *racing* around. It's pretty dull to lap, but chuck a bunch of mrt's at it...

fair enough, at least it's been thought about. I've never heard a car develop anything like that level of dif whine before, usually just a boomy wind noise and monotonous tyre drone...
even with the standard road car gearbox you'll still hear a bit from sportscars, I'd expect particularly so on the 'raw' variety like lx6.

I reckon MRT provides the best racing. With less crap collision dynamics it would be even further ahead imho - currently it gets thrown around quite a lot from small taps...

Quote from Gentlefoot :

LFSers are better at typing while driving. They're probably better at driving slightly p1553d too.

I'm gonna try that one on the officer next time...

funny thread

the engine sounds pretty good on it's own, just revving - but it sounds like a jet plane taking off when you accelerate along the straights. not sure what that whine is meant to simulate? Gearbox whine is engine speed dependant, not road speed...

edit: seems like this may be an intrinsic issue to the carsound remixer. Fair enough. Still don't like it

Last edited by Blowtus, Tue 17 Oct 2006, 08:38.

Just earlier I had left lfs paused on a replay for about 10 minutes, then went to exit LFS and it left me hanging at a black screen with mouse visible. alt-f4 then closed whatever it was no worries. this is on u22.

I don't understand why you couldn't run a good sample through the same algorythyms LFS sound currently uses?

I found the lx6 extremely sensitive to front tyre pressure - low pressure responded slower and didn't cause sudden spikes in force to upset the rear, but on some tracks higher pressure was required for straight line speed. I was able to make the car driveable again (without resorting to major mid corner grip reduction methods like crap front tyres / camber etc) by toeing out the fronts by as much as 0.6. This had the effect of reducing the 'dartyness' of the front end, which kept the back end much more settled. Overall corner speed was not affected. I also ran toe in on the rears (up to about 0.5) for better traction on the rear putting power down.

Quote from z3r0c00l :

Surely if you can't drive each corner consistantly enough to know if a change in line in one corner has affected your laptime in either direction, you arn't consistant enough to be searching for 1-3mph anywhere anyway?

Well, you're wrong I and others benefit from knowing the exact speed through the corner. I'm not slow, neither are the others I've seen comment on it. You may be fast and drive differently - good for you.
I'd still rather a realistic speedo instead of a 'perfect' speedo though, even if it is slightly slower / harder to learn.

Quote from z3r0c00l :

Good points everyone, but every car has an absolutely perfect lap timer, if you want to be fast, that's what you need to be looking at, the speedo is a pitiful measure of performance compared to a lap timer.

lap times give you little useful information about particular corners.

yeah I had the black screen after alt-tabbing I believe.

assymetric setups have the potential to be faster - more adjustability.
it's often worth running high pressure on the non dominant side, for extra acceleration.

depth of field is one of the biggest things lacking in most pc graphics - adding it via photoshop is a pretty massive change

Quote from BWX232 :

also- don't put words in my mouth.. I never said anything about hating any race sim. I just said they each have their strong points and weak points.

Fair enough - sorry, I didn't need to be harsh. I did think it was pretty damn funny posting that heavily chopped pic though...

Quote from BWX232 :

not very much PS in that pic.. the game looks basically like that w/o the blurring of the background.

as a bigoted one eyed lfs-disliker, surely you should leave it to *others* to make a fool of your points...?

Quote from z3r0c00l :

I can't find dyno charts for the same car with the VTEC enabled, disabled and normal, plus disabled and always in the wild cam profile. I don't think a conclusion about this is possible untill we find them!

don't you think if more power was possible simply by leaving it in wild cam mode, all the vtec boyz would be disabling the system?

Quote from z3r0c00l :

I have one of those highstrung two stroke motorcycles, and I HATE IT! It's horrible to ride. so yes, you're right there!

If you had VTEC "kicked in" 100% of the time, you'd have more power low down.

Didn't you say yours had a powervalve?? powervalved 2 strokes are the best bike engines around! my ktm380 lifts the front wheel with the engine on the verge of stalling lol.

When folk talk about vtec kicking in, they mean the wild cam profile - worse power down low.

rubbish! powervalves dont make the engine rev higher, they do exactly the same as vtec - allow the engine to be useable down low while tuned for higher peak power. pre powervalve highly strung 2 strokes are pretty nasty things to ride by all reports...

Zerocool - why is vtec bad for performance on the track? Other than the extra complexity? You're not going to tell me that powervalves are bad for track performance too are you?

Quote from Jamexing :

I CAN scientifically prove that cars with fat mid to high range torque tend to be faster especially on the twisty track with megabytes worth of calculations and data, but I simply used RL examples for the sake of clearity and practical context.

Fat mid to high range torque = high peak power. I agree that there is more to a car than peak power, but it's a 'reasonable' and simple indicator for a race engine, whereas a shit indicator for a street engine.

Haha Tristan I'll pay that. mmm old school rally goodness. The sound and sight of a Stratos driven in anger would have been magic... even footage of it gets the spine tingling

zerocool - I'm sure somewhere in this thread, at least once, it's been explained that vtec allows a higher state of tune with more driveability at low rpm? It does work just the same as the 2 stroke powervalve, really.