Why would you *ever* have two LFS instances running at the same time, though? Don't really think that counts as a bug

You could unlock the kitchen chains for a day, but only if you feel generous.

Yes, just to make it clear DO NOT lock your LFS installation just to race on demo. You can connect to demo servers perfectly fine with your S2 unlocked account, even easier so since the online system has changed and all the license tiers (Demo, S1, S2) have been united.

"Unfortunately the Scirocco release had to be postponed due to unforeseen complications, however we are pleased to announce what we think is an adequate replacement; Ladies and gentlemen, we present you the Rally Pack!"

:rolleyes:

Well, bummer, but it was kinda foreseeable with the amount of problems that appeared in the test patches. Glad you cleared up the situation as soon as it became apparent instead of trying for the best till Christmas and then disappointing everyone on the last day.

On the positive side, I very very much like what I hear regarding the VWS setup. This might finally become the first car that can be driven "as intended" instead of exploiting certain physics shortcomings. Considering how the car will most likely not be the most challenging to drive, it ought to provide great, close races!

Maybe there's a possibility to concentrate on the crash/graphics issues now and release 0.6A around Christmas without the Scirocco, followed with a quick 0.6B including the Scirocco in "early" 2009. The test patch content alone is already a nice upgrade, especially considering the drastic change that ABS will bring for some cars. At least I think this would be the overall better solution, because experience tells me the "early" 2009 could end up not being as early as many people would understand it using non-programmer speech

I doubt it will be very inspiring. Don't forget it has traction control, too.

Quote from SRR Marty :

Quote from Danke :

Any chance of taking ABS away from the FXO? It might be a quick and dirty way to even up the TBOs.

+1 from me for that

That would be a completely artificial and unpredictable way of balancing. Why not use the handicap system that was put there exactly for balancing reasons?

Quote from Bose321 :

When i view from the wheels camera, i can't see the rims. Sorry if it's been reported already.

Reported many times already and is not a bug to begin with. The rims were never visible before and still aren't. The only difference is that the brake disc is now gone, too.

Seriously why does this matter to people so much (judging from the amount of reports of this)? You're driving in a view that magically makes the car body transparent, ffs.

Quote from chanoman315 :

It's like colour and color U.S. and U.K.

So it's a complete non-issue? Why bother with a different translation then?

Quote from XmaX :

Maybe add a rev limiter to next Test Patch pls ?
Nice done Scawen

Every car in LFS has a rev limiter at the moment...

Quote from danthebangerboy :

I have had a small graphical bug, this never happened n the z4 patch. Unfortunately, i forgot to print screen and i havent been able to make it do it again.

My guess is that this was more of a bug with the ATI control panel / GFX driver that suddenly decided your game should run at the maximum MIP bias setting

I'm pretty sure it won't be restricted to just one setup, so rallycross should definitely be possible.

I could only reproduce it in MP, though...

LOL. That said, I just got the DX8 crash randomly. I'm on WinXP SP3 here, so it's not a Vista issue.

Quote from Scawen :

Now Android, as you are able to get call stacks, please can you reproduce that othe DX8 crash as well.

Heh, if only it were that easy

Quote from Shadowww :

Isn't disassembling denied by EULA?

No. http://www.lfs.net/?page=agreement

How about contributing something useful for a change?

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Yes, I can reproduce it too.

1) Join a Z host
2) Turn on F9 / F10 view
3) Start the race
4) Wait for the start lights to vanish / the track map to appear
5) Alt+F4

Quote from Zen321 :

It's the opposite. A low-specs sport car is the easiest to tune.
[...]

It's not about how easy it is to change the car's behaviour, though - it's about how fine adjustments you can make to the components. This doesn't only affect gearing, it affects nearly every setting currently available. For most of LFS' road cars and the state of tuning they represent you'd have at best a few settings to choose from.

Example current vs. how it should be:
- brake strength adjustable to 1 Nm vs. not adjustable at all
- spring stiffness adjustable to 0.1 N/mm vs. maybe having 5 choices from soft to hard (?)
- damping adjustable to 0.1 Ns/mm vs. maybe having 8 clicks available or less
- anti-roll adjustable to 0.1 N/mm vs. maybe having 6 ARB strengths to choose from or less
- maximum lock, parallel steer, gearing... you get the idea

^ Yes, this was one of the first things reported, Scawen knows about it.

Quote from Danas :

I can still see this, problem?

No. This is a sideeffect of the brake discs now rotating with the wheels or was implemented specifically as optimization.

Quote from John5200 :

btw... the second quote from scawen is false already now ^^ (ABS)

I guess you don't understand what "content" means then? Content refers to cars and tracks, the substance of the game. ABS is just a new simulation feature.

Quote from plehto :

Also the idea of abs is to maintain steering, not to shorten braking distances. In many cases braking distance with abs is longer compared to locked tyres.

The only case where this is true is a specific kind of snow and maybe on gravel.

Last edited by AndroidXP, Sun, 14 Dec 2008 08:31.

Quote from Tomson(FIN) :

If i understand this right, your saying that becouse of my comment?
here is why i use myself that auto-clutch.
Just so simble and easy to change gears.
Just lose/off the throttle, change the gear, and start throttle again. so simble and fast, isnt it?

Huh? But in the FBM you can do that even without autoclutch. You're not supposed to use the clutch in the FBM at any time other than taking off from a standstill.

Quote from XmaX :

You cant change the texture of the new brakedisc so you dont see if that rotate, pls change it. The rest is fine

???

If you want a brake disc with ventilation holes then just install a custom texture. Normal cars with a stock/road setup rarely if ever have such brakes, so why should the default texture have them?

Quote from der butz :

however I didn't completely get the orangey stuff in F9-view. Is an orange-looking tyre the indicator for blocked?

Actually it shows the wheel(s) that ABS is currently active on, not if a wheel is locked

Quote from Heiko1 :

his name is Scawen not Scavier

Scawen Victor Eric

How exactly is that a bug?