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2013 Kyoto 500: Qualifying Information and Discussion
Hello racers !

It's time for qualifying for the greatest spectacle in LFS. The system is different that what's normal for LFS, and can be highly stressful. Here's the thread to discuss it.

General Information:
Pole Day: 22 June 2012 (Saturday) 17:00 - 23:00 UTC.
Bump Day: 23 June 2012 (Sunday) 17:00 - 23:00 UTC.

General Rules:
Drivers have a maximum of three attempts per day. Attempts are charged after the completion of the first timed lap and first sector of Lap 2. Unused attempts do not carry over to the next day. Once you start the first timed lap of the new attempt, your previous standing time (if any) is deleted from the grid order permanently.

A qualifying attempt consists of two warmup laps, four flying timed laps, and one inlap. The four timed laps are averaged to get the qualifying time.

Tyre warming is prohibited as per the rules, but I do make small allotments. You are permitted a small burnout while exiting your garage, and may go full lock in turns on your first warmup lap. On Warmup 2, you MUST take the normal line, and do NO tyre warming on this lap (High lining is permitted). It has been suggested, however, that doing tyre warming is more detrimental than it is beneficial.

Pole Day:
Pole day is the only day that Pole Position may be taken. At the end of pole day, the fastest qualifier is locked in to P1 even if someone goes faster on Bump Day.

Bump Day:
Bump Day is the day where the rest of the grid is sorted. Bumping referrs to "bumping" the 30th place car out of the field with a faster time. The person in 30th will be referred to as "On the Bubble". Once 30 cars have taken times, Bumping will begin. Bumping may begin on Pole Day.

Procedures
You will be required to request an attempt run via a text chat message, "@request" - the insim application will capture that and place you in queue. If you are in queue and wish to remove yourself, type "@remove" To view the first 10 in queue, use the command "@queue" - to view your specific position in queue, use "@qpos" - the queue will be listed in a text file in my Dropbox that you can look at any time you are not in-server (You will need to manually refresh it). Insim buttons at the top of the screen will indicate current session and run status, and the car currently on track, next in queue, and "staging". The current qualifying car is permitted to block messaged while on his qualifying run ONLY.

You will enter the track immediately after pitwall ends. A layout will be in place to direct you there.

You must return to the pitlane without assistance after your qualifying attempt. As long as part or all of your car has crossed the speed limit start line, you have met this. Failure to do so will result in 0.01 seconds being added to your 4th lap time.

If the qualifying queue is empty, track will be opened for practice until such time another driver wishes to take an attempt.

You are permitted to be in TeamSpeak for chat during session, as well as the NDR IRC located as #ndr on irc.gamesurge.net.

I will be using a Google Spreadsheet to track times, linked below after I create it.

You must qualify during one of these two windows in order to be eligible to race in the 2013 Kyoto 500. You do not have to be in server during all 12 qualifying hours. You only need to be in long enough to request a run and do the run. You don't have to be in server while you're waiting in queue technically, but you need to be ready to go within 1 minute of your turn coming up.

You will be PMed the password for the server if you meet the entry requirements. This will be PMed to you Saturday morning.

Official Qualifying Results

Forefeited Attempts and compar ... ing driver actually ended

Attempts Log
2012 Kyoto 500?
http://lfs.gu3.st/ky500.html

I quickly knocked this up. Put your username in the small input box, and then if you have Chrome (basically, or Safari on OS X) it will ask you for permission to notify.

After approved, it will proceed to notify you of the current queue status for you. It will show a notification once you're 3rd, then 2nd then next up. I would suggest that you close the browser tab once you are joining the server (to protect you from any potential browser focus issues).

(it starts to warn you at 3rd, then 2nd then 1st). At the very least, it automatically updates the queue list every 15 seconds if you're using a shitty browser (IE, Firefox, Opera).

I'll be testing it tomorrow to ensure its working correctly, so I make no claims as to its effectiveness. It is only a tool and shouldn't be relied on. If in doubt, consult deko's list directly or the server.
Could anone thell me the procedure more easily? My endlish isn't the best, I don't really understand that stuff with the request things.

Thank you so far
Thorsten, the procedure is:

Join Server
Send @request as a message. This will place you into the queue for qualifying. Once it is your turn, you will proceed to join the track, do 2 warm-up laps, 4 flying laps, and 1 cool down lap returning to pitlane.

Your qualifying time is an average of your flying laps, (add lap times, divide by 4). If you feel your time is too slow, you may request again and try to improve. The interesting part is that once you try again, your old time is deleted for good.

You can abort an attempt (and it won't erase old time and count against your attempt count) if you spectate before the split on your second warmup lap.

You get 3 attempts today and 3 tries tomorrow. Whoever is fastest today becomes pole sitter. Tomorrow decides the rest of the grid.

Hope this is easier/more concise. Deko, correct any mistakes I've made.
just saw youa re having this event. Wish i would have seen earlier
is there a link to the lap time averages doc?
Quote from Mustangman759 :is there a link to the lap time averages doc?

Considering nobody has yet to complete an attempt.

No

EDIT: YES
After Pole Day Qualifying, Car 32 Patrick Hall (FalconBridge) has earned the pole for the 2013 Kyoto 500, with a 4-Lap average time of 36.9600. Kyoto 500 veterans Dan Sanger and Jakob Laurberg gave the pole a decent run, but fell short.

Impressive runs on pole day from Matt Kingsbury, Rony Kronpuss to get them into the top 10 provisionally.

Car 32 will remain the pole sitter no matter what as long as he does not withdraw his time on Sunday. Even if someone beats his time on Sunday, the best one can start is 2nd.

There are 7 drivers who are eligible to participate who have not left a time on the board. One car has been bumped after one day of qualifying. 22nd and back in the qualifying order should be the ones taking runs tomorrow. 15th to 21st should just monitor and only run to improve their time to escape danger of being bumped. Anyone 14th or higher should just watch unless they feel they can really beat their time.

I would really expect the track tomorrow to be more open for practice than qualifying runs. I would really only like to see those with something significant to gain run - those who have no time set yet, and those who are bumped out and want to try to work their way back in.
On Bump day, track open for practice until at least 19:09 UTC; queue request still being taken any time during the q window. Track will always be given a minimum practice window of at least 10 minutes, 20 if more time left in session.
I like the part where Martin (Flame CZE) went faster than the Pole today.
Quote from dawesdust_12 :I like the part where Martin (Flame CZE) went faster than the Pole today.

I liked the part where Dan Sanger beat me on tiebreaker NOT.
**** this... really disappointed with the outcome, didn't know i'll be out of grid, but most importantly, i have no idea, where to gain those 0,03-0,05s. GL to all qualified, i'll go drown my tears in some hard alcolol.
Quote from Kid222 :**** this... really disappointed with the outcome, didn't know i'll be out of grid, but most importantly, i have no idea, where to gain those 0,03-0,05s. GL to all qualified, i'll go drown my tears in some hard alcolol.

in the centimeters you went to high in the corners or jerked the wheel too much. Nothing you can do but try better next year though was hoping you would knock a certain someone off with thomas
im in didnt thought that few hours ago
Kid, I will give you my LFS Acct for race.

It does suck that you nuked your time so you can't even make it in due to dropouts.
Quote from Flame CZE :I liked the part where Dan Sanger beat me on tiebreaker NOT.

Well I could of beat you on time. But I figured I will save that for next year
Quote from Raven88 :Well I could of beat you on time. But I figured I will save that for next year

Quote from Mustangman759 :was hoping you would knock a certain someone off with thomas

Why would you post something snarky like that, then be a chicken shit and hide it with white text.

Speaks volumes about your personality.
Thats one of the kings, it's getting normal dustin
I see nothing new from Dan just crying about he could be on pole but some mystical powers didn't let him.
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