Well, I have enough evidence that Scawen does not have the slighest idea who keeps his game running. For example, the demo environment would be in a very bad shape if EQ Worry wasn't there with the [AA] servers and didn't wrote a great InSim.
Also there are some pretty well organized teams out here which have difficulty to keep the LFS spirit up against games as Rfactor and Iracing.
It's pretty arrogant to not communicate at all to at least your biggest supporters or not even know who they are! In some sort of way it's a disconnection from your own project. And this support will start to fail eventually, I think by the end of this year. (Little bit afraid of Rfactor2, well afraid, I'd move too if it's good).
But who cares anyway, this was just a personal project and a bonus income. Nothing more.
This situation keeps the motivation low to make progress.
On the bright side, there is stuff laying around like the Rockingham track which could be easily be released to keep the regular gamers happy. Just like the Z-patches of last year... But nothing gets released at all, so you might say something bigger is coming up.
Or, Scawen has big personal problems in life... Also a possibility. But this ongoing silence is not helping the start of all these kind of speculations at all.
The excuse that the physics are wrong and therefore don't release nothing anymore for two full years now, who still believes that story?
I mean, how difficult is it to make / design at least some tracks and release those?
That's the great question, but it is partly understandable. That is, the physics part. This is pretty much a guess here, but I believe this stuff is far more complex than it seems at first. It's just a tire touching the ground, but there's so much going on there. Besides, we know that Scawen's not only doing the tires, he's working on other stuff as well.
The part that's annoying as hell is pretty much everything concerning graphics, where I feel work could be done faster by a snail randomly moving across a keyboard.
im becoming sad when i see something like this http://simracing.sk/images/stories/rfactor2/10_09_30/1.jpg i know, i can make my own simulator, or buy something else i want...but everyone knows its not gonna happen, because lfs is the best price/"value" so i just leave it here to let everyone know what makes me sad tonight
Exactly my thoughts. A good example are the renewed cockpits, which were meant to be released ages ago. But we all know the eloquent and customer-friendly statement of the self-proclaimed 'least favourite developer' concerning his work...
Heh, either you're just taking the piss again or... you're proud of that for some bizarre reason.
Everyone's gotten what they've paid for, of course Scawen doesn't "owe" the community anything, any more than you "owe" someone a "thank you" in any situation where there is to be no further exchange of money & goods.
But the only people I know who would ignore you when you speak to them are pretty self important. Or maybe they're deaf, and then they only come across as self important even though they're probably a great person.
I am actually working in PR, and I actually do think that the best PR is honesty. He said what's up, he said why he did certain things, and why he did NOT do certain things. Perfect PR IMHO.
Also, I think that the seeimg lack of info actually generates a thrill in the community that's much more effective than flooding it with tidbits, especially if he has to cut out features again because they don't work.
The "lack" of info is also just a misconception by the community. We actually know all there is to know. We only get the feeling of lacking progress and/or information because Scawen isn't constantly repeating himself every few days. Honestly, what kind of insight would we gain if Scawen would post "still working on it" every week?
yes, every year at the end we get another announcement till everyone gets bored of announcing...lfs says were making tyre physics, iracing releases it without announcing...lfs says now the S3, then rfactor 2 will be released...with new graphics, raining, physics and everything...
Yes, that was perfect PR. He stated a whole bunch of actually very interesting things that were interesting to read, the basic summary of what he'd encountered for the previous months. What's so crappy about dispersing little tidbits like that here and there? He always says "he doesn't want to", and that's where the buck stops ultimately, but when taking 5 minutes to speak about things quelled this useless thread for some weeks, you'd think he'd be inclined to do that more often. But again, he's not, so all discussion is moot.
Yes this thread is full of thrill!
Well like I said if you look at his posts somewhere in the middle of this mess, he managed basically a full page post about working on the "same thing all this time" that turned out to be rather intersting. For having nothing to report, he said some very insightful things. You make it sound like he's been staring at the same formula for months doing nothing but thinking; I really doubt that's the case.
Ultimately like Tristan said he "owes" the forum nothing, I'll just never understand the attitude of ignoring people who are genuinely interested in your project of passion. Not that I have to understand it.
I agree with this, if anything the demo should have more content removed.
Back in the day when the best driftcar(XRT) in the game was available in demo, people would spend years playing demo without ever buying the game.
in response to ball bearing turbos post,,with Tristan saying that he owes the forum nothing,,but this isnt just a forum we are payed customers to the lfs game so maybe just a tiny bit of info about progress on s3 may help people out on the subject,,il always say they have done an excellent job so far and agree that with all the combos of playing theres plenty of fun to be had,but there is a lot of people who have stuck with the game since 2005