Quote from tankslacno :

Thank you for this suggestion/correction. I've now changed that word in both online translation system and in my LFS-Client.

In case you can't wait to see the end of MUTA-word, I've attached a screenshot of this correction

Cool, I did check it out more, it could had been still also on MUTA, but it depends on two things...

1... Tire names are set for as what environment they are used

2... Tire names are directly set their names itself

However, both of options in finnish terms are more used to call as "MAASTORENKAAT"... That's why I can confirm 100% from it. It sounds indeed awkward to only call as Maasto, because in english, the word "Tires" are not shown on tire options, only the somewhat shortcut version of it...

So, it would be 100% correct to set as 'Maastorenkaat'...


More trivia:

Normal tires = Normaalirenkaat
Normal tire = Normaalirengas
Normal tire compound = Normaalirengasseos ( Notice, even if word "compound" has direct translate called as "yhdiste", it is not used in that term as much as "seos", which is more like called as "mixture" in english )

Hybrid tires = Hybridirenkaat
Hybrid tire = Hybridirengas
Hybrid tire compound = Hybridirengasseos

Soft tires = Pehmeärenkaat / Pehmeät renkaat ( Because word "pehmeät" does end to letter t words are separated. Both are correct to use. There is even more rules about how to make finnish words correctly, but heck, this thread is not for that, haha! )
Soft tire = Pehmeärengas
Soft tire compound = Pehmeärengasseos

Knobbly tires = (Mukurarenkaat) Maastorenkaat
Knobbly tire = (Mukurarengas) Maastorengas
Knobbly tire compound = (Mukurarengasseos) Maastorengasseos


RX Slick tires = RX-Sliksirenkaat ( X means for 1,2,3 or 4, as used in LFS )
RX Slick tire = RX-Sliksirengas
RX Slick tire compound = RX-Sliksirengasseos

Slick tire compound = Sliksirengasseos


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Sorry, I got overflowing when coming to explain on this, but at least you got it. And besides, at least you know few finnish words to type, not sure how you say them =)

Quote from UnknownMaster21 :

Cool, I did check it out more, it could had been still also on MUTA, but it depends on two things...
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I now translated those words into these (I only translated them in my own LFS-Client, I haven't yet translated these in online translation system):
- NORMAALI -> NORMAALIRENKAAT
- HYBRIDI -> HYBRIDIRENKAAT
- PEHMEÄ -> PEHMEÄT RENKAAT
- MAASTO -> MAASTORENKAAT
- SLIKSIT RX (X = 1/2/3/4) -> RX-SLIKSIRENKAAT

They all seem to fit in there, though just barely. In my opinion, RX-SLIKSIT could be actually pretty good there, it looks better and more reasonable than SLIKSIT RX.

My question is that, is it necessary to have the word/part "Renkaat" there? The tab in garage already says that you're modifying/checking tires.

PS: Possible spoilers:

In this game, there are also tires called: SLICK_SOFT (Pehmeät Sliksit), SLICK_MEDIUM (Puolikovat Sliksit), SLICK_HARD (Kovat Sliksit), RACE_SLICK (Sliksit), RACE_GROOVED (Urarenkaat), RACE_INTERMEDIATE (Välikeli) and RACE_WET (Märkä). I translated the first three into Pehmeät Sliksirenkaat, Puolikovat Sliksirenkaat and Kovat Sliksirenkaat and the last two into Välikelin renkaat and Märät renkaat.

But when I refershed that language file in LFS, it warned that Pehmeät Sliksirenkaat is too long by two letters and Puolikovat Sliksirenkaat is too long by five letters (therefore, Kovat Sliksirenkaat is the maximum length of word related to tires). So I think it's best, that at least Pehmeät/Puolikovat/Kovat sliksirenkaat are just called Pehmeät/Puolikovat/Kovat sliksit.

Anyway, is this going to tell us that tracks are going to get pretty wet after tyre physics are ready?

Shhhhhhh!!!! ( Isn't it obvious? )

The thing was that it is not really need to add a word renkaat after the type of tires, it was just an example

Was only need to change Muta to Maasto, otherwise it is good

Hello developers and fellow players!

I have made alternative finnish translations for the training missions.

I don't want to diminish the effort put into the original translations in any way, but I stumbled upon some errors in some of them.

So I checked through all of the translations in the training section and decided to re-work them all (to varying degree). Fixed a few translation errors and some naming inconsistencies, but also tweaked the appearance of the language a little.

Would you guys take a look at them and say what you think?

Did not compare them with original ones, but what I read in that zip file was very OK

Hi once again!

Updated Commands.txt and Autocross.txt to most recent version (0.6T4). Are there any more commands coming to Commands.txt?

By the way, I checked those alternative Finnish translations for training lessons that Vaitteli made and they actually have better grammar than those I originally made about 3 years ago. So if it's okay, it could probably be better to replace those original ones withe ones Vaitteli made. Thanks for them Vaitteli and sorry for the delay.

PS: To all translators: I think there's two more translation strings in all languages that should be updated. Since 0.6T3, it's possible to speed up or slow down time in Single Player. Well, if you look at Options -> Controls -> Reserved buttons -> Shift+F2/F3, you can see that all languages (I suppose) have word "replay" in those two translation strings, hinting players that speeding up or slowing down is only possible in Replays, even though it's now possible in Single Player as well.

Thank you tankslacno and vaitelli, your updates will be in T5 which I hope to release later today.

Hi!

I've attached an updated Commands.txt so that translation is relevant to your Commands.txt which you updated 5th February 2021.

However, I noticed two things when updating that and I think I should point them out:

1) I've already updated available number for smoothness of car updates per second from 3-6 to 3-12. if for some reason it's required to change that maximum number or revert it back to that original 3-6, I will update this file again.

2) This information in English Commands.txt-file catched my eye:

Quote :

To get info from LFS World - /w and /ws commands:
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/w CMD sends command to LFS World for current car/track
e.g. /w pb (Personal Best) or /w laps (Laps)

/ws TRACK CAR CMD sends command for specified car/track
e.g. /ws BL1R XRT pb (get PB in XR GT TURBO at Blackwood GP REV)

More online DB access commands can be found on the
"LFS Keys" page at www.liveforspeed.net

To get info from master server - /m command:

/m find USER - find a user online
/m ? - get a list of master commands

Is that part I bolded redundant? I don't find that "LFS Keys"-page anywhere here. I did find a page which displays similar info about those (LFSWorld) DB access commands here though: https://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Keys#LFS_World_commands_in-game

I was just wondering should that part I bolded get updated?

Thanks. I've got your version into my test patch folder.

I've changed my version to pps 12.

The two lines you marked bold, I've changed to a single line:

More online DB access commands: https://en.lfsmanual.net/wiki/Keys

I've attached an updated Commands.txt-file. Fixed some typos and changed that one line.

I've also updated those translations related to changes you did in those outdated In-Game Help-texts. I did that in that LFS Translations page. I just noticed that there is still one small outdated information in English on max_guests section:

Quote :

You can set the number of guests that will be able to connect to your host.

^7Minimum setting :^8 1 - only one guest will be able to join your host.

^7Maximum setting :^8 15 in DEMO, 47 in S1 and S2

This number is important for determining your upload bandwidth requirement.

While every other in-game help file does now mention S3 in English as well, this one still does not

Thank, got it!

Just a small question, when I did just a couple minor corrections for the game on translation web page of LFS today, I noticed this line:

Quote :

3h_s_coln_s %s : %s

According to the abbreviation, it means "A format string that specifies how the colon should be used"

I noticed that on Finnish translation, on most lines it is %s: %s - there is no space between the first %s and the colon. However, on some lines it still has that space. That part is very inconsistent when that language is selected in-game.

Question: is that 3h_s_coln_s just a reference for assigned translators? Or can it potentially cause some issues in the future? Is there any reason why there should be a space for both sides of the colon or does it really matter at all? As far as I'm aware of, most, if not all languages (aside from French), don't have a space before colon, though they do have one after it.

If for some reason it's essential to have (or not have) that space before colon, I can do it before you release a new official patch.

That is just a style choice.

LFS makes some text by combining two strings, using that format string. That is to allow LFS-created text to match the strings you manually entered.

So, if in your translation you use a space before a colon then you should have a space before the colon in this format string. If you don't put space before colon, then remove it in this string and LFS will match your style.

Off topic, I wish that I hadn't used space before colons ever, it seemed to look better with the original font. Now I prefer without but it's hard to get rid of them.

Okay thanks! I've updated all four translation pages found from the online translation site (that includes the LFS.net-text). Only change was that I removed the space before the colon from all translation lines that still had it.

And for anyone wondering, is this hard to do on that online translation page? Not really, you can easily just search for " :" which displays all the translation lines, that have that space before colon and then remove that space from them one by one. I assume it is even easier to do with text editors, since you can just use the find and replace function to replace all lines that have " :" with ":".