Quote from Chupacabras84 :

No its your mistake assuming i cant.

I am only a customer an end user i dont care about number of people doing games, their budget, time they had etc all I care is final product, nothing else matters for me.

Sim an overused word, lets look at it, Simulator nomen omen simulates something, so what does LFS simulate?
A flexible tyre, work of suspension it doesnt really simulate anything that exist in real life because it simulates components of a car but not a particular car, yes cars in LFS are based on existed cars but even so cars in LFS doesnt act as a real live cars.
An aliens is a good example no real car could drive with those setups not to mention wining races.
And in LFS those unrealistic settings give you the best result so even if LFS simulates something you can clearly see it not really realistic, i can take rollcage and say its a sim because its simulates something that is no existent.
Cars in LFS are like an object with suspension, engine, tyres, cage, frame, etc and its behaves more or less like such an object would but its not really an existent car, neither its behave like real car with the same characteristics should.


It is you who think you understand LFS but you dont.

Oh luk at me I am so hardkorez racer i could play LFS in excel...
Saying stuff like you dont have time to look at scenery its an overused excuse and even kid can see how retarded that is.
Unless you really want to say that while driving you see only asphalt.

Did it ever flew trough you scull that there are people who are more observant than you are, who pay more attention to details, who are more demanding and there is no reason why your preferences in games are better than mine, or why should LFS be developed to suit your taste and not mine.
You are not the bellybutton of the universe get used to it.

Wow you make more owngoals as i can follow

1. If you only an Consumer how only Interresst of an full Ready Product ?
Why in the hell you buy a Product in the middle of the development Stage ????

2. If "Sim" an overused word for, you why in hell you are play Lfs,
we dident have 1000 cars or 1000 Tracks or another think as the Physicaly advantage??? Why???

3. And why i the Hell you give me an answer to think i dident wrote???
I never say "and its racing im intrested in not blingy crap" but yeah i agree with the guy who wrote this stuff.

4. The most Laps you drive is on OVAL 365 labs and then Blackwood 163 Laps and then Aston 46 Labs on one Car!
Why you want more content like GT if you dident drive the conent we have? Why? Are you a Kid? If yes =
Go to GT Forum and make your crying Post there :
"why we didint have the same Physics like Lfs i think the word "Sim" is overused but i will them right now i have wait 5 Years off this damn overused Stuff.

5. "I think" S3 will take much time like S1 & S2 together. (only a feeling)

Bye you Sherlock of the Universe.

Last edited by Xenix74, Thu 16 Dec 2010, 08:30.

Quote from Chupacabras84 :

>Implying i drive online only and not prefer driving offline improving my times and avoiding riffraffs at the same time.

GT2, 4 for a couple of years GT5 hopefully longer.
GTL and rFactor, WRC championship on my bellowed PS2 (that was a really good rally sim), DIRT very enjoyable if you ask me and LFS its kinda meh after a few weeks i mean car rolls fine and all but I already seen everything game has to offer and get bored by bad visual design of the tracks and small number of the same tracks
I mean look at you 23563 laps for 5 years on the same damn 7 tracks in different configurations (Probably more laps since there is offline option, how can you stay sane after looking on the same scenery every lap for 5 years ), look its not my fault i have bigger demands than you i guess some people can get satisfied with literally anything

Ah something brewing

sry but if you think you can compare GT with LFS its your misstake,
on GT works more as 100 people(5 years), Simbim has 60 People and more in Work for his projekts, & Image Space are 12 people with thousend of private People they release every day her stuff (85% are trash in meaning of Simulation), and WRC on ps2 mmmhm its good game but nothing to do with a Sim (try RBR on PC).
You dont understand LFS sry.

I know you didnt do it but try one car on one Track for a month and you will see every corner is totaly different as you aspectet as the beginning.
LFS is learning, learning, learning all other sim (rfaktor & GTL mostly) is only Driving around.

And think about this: GT 60 euro - Lfs 24 Euro.

( and my KM are 10 time higher because i drive on lan (offline) here with 4 friends in the same house -everyday- . Because we all have G25 and like to compare it in real condition with same Calibration(clutch h-shifter-720 degree))

And yes i can wait because LFS is for me a LIFETIME project.
The Way is the GOAL !

Last edited by Xenix74, Wed 15 Dec 2010, 00:37.

Quote from fabiESCO :

good idea. only thing is some cars ask for the paddle shifter for shifting(if that what u mean. like me i love using all cars in game.

i have also tried using my clutch as the e-brake. that worked ok but it was funner to use it as real clutch and no auto clutching in game. hehe

the whole point on having joystick(dont have e-brake to soder into a button.) is just to make game a lil more realistic and gotta admit. set up looks sweet having it. would love full car dash and stuff like others have but that just out of my reach(for right now atleast)

If you use a G25 or 27u can switch the H shifter to a seq too. (up & down)
Its the most usefull setup i found for myself. I have drive nearly 2 Years with an analog Handbrake (look at my 1 sim pics). And in races its totaly time wasting to use analog handbrake. If you wannt it for fun there are some irritating points. One of them is: the Handbrake is everytime On when you leave the Pit, even your analog handbrake is down. You must pull and leave to disable the Handbrake.

After all this wishes i still know why the Devs dont talk too us
They must think we are totaly crazy.

The more cars you want even more, there will be no answer, most are children without any idea of the workload of their wish.

I also would not talk to someone of my work does not understand.

And the Devs are older & wiser to not talk to a Half age community with Santa wishes.


WAKE UP there is no SANTA.

Quote from Chupacabras84 :

And LFS is like "Consensual sex in the missionary position for the sole purpose of procreation"

Oh guy you are so wise after 1061 labs on Lfs. Lets look how long you will drive another Sim before you bored of them.

Quote from Udris1992 :

this is a LFS FORUM!!! DONT SPEAK ABOUT OTHER GAMES !!

You are sooo right my friend
My mistake to open a door for poor offtopic threads.
Better dont give an answer to anybody how wants left LFS.

Let them go , they find back after some weeks or mounth :haha:

Handbrake tip:
A tip for the G25 & 27 users is (when you use the h-shifter) to use the Seq Shifters as the Handbrake. (like some real Rally Cars, they have a Handbrake on the Wheel behind the Seq Shifter)

Use the Logitech Profiler or Joytokey to bind a key on the Seq Shifters (both side same key, maybe Alt or Shift) and then go to your Game an config the Handbrake as this Key.

Works Great and you dont need to put the Hands away from Wheel during you "drift".

Quote from dontpannic :

GT5 with a G25 is absolutely fantastic in terms of handling, physics, and of course graphics. I'll never forget LFS, its still a fantastic sim, but is starting to look dated when compared with other sims, and with a patch that was supposed to be out in a week just under two years ago it does make you question the development speed. I have no doubt in my mind that the patch will refresh LFS especially with the new tyre physics but surely a test patch wouldn't be a bad idea, or at least more regular and detailed updates than "we're still working on it". Estimated times are good too - just no release dates.

Its good but Its not a Sim with Real Handling !
I play it some days and in my opinion its only a Semi Acarde racer like the other GT Games too. Nothing change really big. They have a cockpit now and every Kid think wow its Real. No its not. It looks only Phantastic, but i wanna feel the cars i move, not look at it in replays.
GT5 is a CARPORN.

Quote from add38 :

So I think that I'm going to buy a PS3 with GT5 and forgot LFS...

Do it its a nice..... GAME!
But why forgot Lfs? when you can wait 5 Years for GT5 !
I Dont understand you sry.

edit: but after playing LFS (about 120 000 km you has driven ) you will nowhere find the same fun (physically)

Last edited by Xenix74, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 13:29.

Yes i see your Rig, its useful and nice with secound monitor for the right side

It remember me to the begining of my first "Simualtor", i really miss the allround look (thats the reason why i neeeeed a second beamer)

Last edited by Xenix74, Fri 10 Dec 2010, 13:07.

There is one Think i really miss!

A Hotseat mode like in Richard Burns.

I play often with friends on one Computer to Battle our Laptimes (successively). It would be nice to have such Offline competion Mode.
A place where you can enter the names of the drivers and see splittimes compare to each other.
Only an idea.

Oh sorry Guys i forgot this thread,
No there is no Virus i check this with AVG but i can do it as rar too if you wont. Sry my fault ( i just playing with winrar option).

http://www.file-upload.net/download-3034568/Decals.rar.html

here is the .rar version

sry again & much fun

Last edited by Xenix74, Thu 9 Dec 2010, 03:39.

Thx guys
Now i need a second Beamer for 180 degree look and a two Axis force motion. Then its perfekt for me

He would say "there is nothing to Report."
I can understand why he is so quietly.
Better make big Projekt as big Words.

And evertime i look at LFS, i can say its the right way to make a "Perfekt" Car allround Physics, then the Content, its much easyier to add new Cars & Tracks to the Sim as in other way.

Uff.... A LAPTOP

i hope they have Wlan in the Pits so we can Surf for free

Quote from E.Reiljans :

Yeah, I don't get why people want media player in a game. Why not to also request gadget system, picture viewer, and browser, everything in-game?

dont forget the Virtual Lunchbox, GPS, Flying Birds and also we need Virtual Laptops in Cars :cookiemon

Take Winamp .......dont waste the Time of the Devs.

Sry my opinion

Amd X2 6000
Geforce 9400GT
4096MB Dual Ram

IZ3D Drivers for 3d Play (Cyan & Red)
Toshiba Beamer 1280x768

G25 H-Shift/ Clutch/ 720 Degree (on road cars)
G13 Live for G15 Setup For Timesplit´s
Self made 4 Button Box
14 inch Monitor for VLFSDash on second out of GC
4X20 LCD Panel for Radioinfo & Equlaiser & Hotkeys in Winamp
(only offline in use)
4x 50 W. Bass Shaker
TrackIR3 Vector
Opel Corsa Cockpit
And 2,5 X 3,5m >Racing Room< for all this Racing Stuff,

Last edited by Xenix74, Wed 8 Dec 2010, 11:06.

Found one for some days:
LX6 South City Classic Reverse
But only on h-shift & Clutch and 720 degree

So less time to shift before Cikane began, i love this Combo.
Try it

Maybe it the tactics, Rfactor2 comes out soon. And who wants to play his Ace card already too early.

Wait and see, and if nothing appears to me no matter LFS's still the best.

I take so much from this forum, Mods, Apps, Skins, Setups, and so much other Stuff, now i will try to give something back:
here is a Pack of 4245 Decals for the Painters.

http://www.file-upload.net/download-3016162/Decals.exe.html

I hope u Like it.

Yes i see und use this option, but its not Big enough on my older CRT TV. The Scale is on 1
But Thx for try to help me man

I hope there is a tweak or mod or somethink else to make it bigger as it is.

The most problem is the Chat, would nice to have chance to make the fonts bigger as now for People with older CRT TV. (hello Scawen? )

Is it possible to make the Fonts bigger in LFS ?

I have a second Pc on TV running and play often with friends. But i cant read the Option & Chat Text very bad.

The fonts are very Tiny. Is it possible to change the fonts?

someone has a tip for me?

Yes i know, but i want only the last screen.
But np i must switch then every time.

THX man.

Thx Scaven

When i see the Wishlist in the Improvement Section for S3 i can understand your quietly Working.

You must think we are completly crazy.